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SOD: True O'Brien on her Days Exit
doxiefollies
Sep 28 2015, 02:34 PM
I loved True and was soooo disappointed they killed her character....there was a lot of potential for her character, especially having Eve as her mother, then to find out Rafe & Gabi were her half brother and sister and not to mention AM being her father....Shane & Kimberly as her grandparents....so many family ties....this was a very poor decision. I have been watching DOOL since 1978 and there are few times I hated when they killed off a character (especially Renee Dimera) and now Paige is on that short list...she had a lot of potential...don't really care what the Paige people who disagree with me say about the her, because I have watched this show long enough, to know they are wrong...maybe down the road, Paige will have a twin that was separated at birth and that will bring Eve back, too. :smile:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Paige is now the youngest murder victim in Days history. She was 19, while Renee was 22. I'm not talking about deaths of children, but people who have died at the hands of serial killers.

I do think the character had much more potential, and True really was improving and gaining more onscreen presence. It was painful watching her death scenes yesterday. But, like Renee Dimera all those years ago, her death is driving story, and Days needs all the drama it can get right now. That will certainly continue with the next victim (which I'm dreading). :'(

I wish True all the best in the future! She seems like a sweetheart.

Monday, September 28th Daily Discussion
DayDreamer
Sep 28 2015, 03:14 PM
Those scenes was very detailed so no I don't believe those are fabricated dreams. If they are true flashbacks then Ben was the killer.

I mean come on, ... don't you guys see how creepy he is? I don't get why some people are saying they don't think he is the murder. Specially after today I am very sure, .. I won't believe a twist later that would claim he is not. Because,..

They way he is speaking to Abby afterwards. He is becoming more scarier than his father. In fact hasn't it been mentioned that Clyde has some kind of physiological illness (his therapy sessions with Marlena). I actually think Ben might have that delusional and combustion temper and possible illness like his father. So if his behaviour is a result of a metal unhealthiness I could believe that.
I would tend to agree, but the way Paige's body was left after Ben's flashback was drastically different than how she was found. I mean, when JJ found her, he had to pull back the hanging shower curtain. Meanwhile, in the flashback the curtain was torn down and wrapped around her body. To me that's a big red flag. The show has had problems with continuity before, but that's a pretty big error.

I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much into it...

Shawn Christian leaving Days!
cajnej
Sep 25 2015, 12:34 AM
Dr Dan sure looks more than a little menacing today. I have not ruled out his involvement in some way in these murders.
I'm telling you, I really think Dan is working with Andre and is wearing a latex mask of Ben while killing. That will be the big reveal in November when the real Ben dies and we see Dan pull off the mask. Here's hoping!

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lilparisbabe
Sep 23 2015, 08:26 PM
Lovejm
Sep 23 2015, 07:38 PM
KweenBoda
Sep 23 2015, 07:36 PM
Well maybe TPTB think that Ben would be a huge shock too the audience because he's supposedly a nice man. Sure hasn't came across to me as nice.
I think you're right. The way they had him doting on Abby and making wedding plans. And some people still don't think Ben's a creep. So I could see it.
I still have a feeling it is a red herring and it isn't the 'real' killer. I have a feeling it is november when the killer will really be revealed as first spoiled to us. Finding out this soon would 'kill' the storyline lol
Well, since Andre is back on the canvas, what if Daniel has gone off the deep end and is working for him, and when we see
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attacking Marlena today, it's actually Daniel wearing a latex mask! It's a throwback to Andre's first reign of terror, in which he murdered people while wearing Roman and Eugene masks. I mean, Andre has that clever little tactic in his bag of tricks. And THAT would be the big reveal in November! :shrug:

Tuesday, September 22nd Daily Discussion
karenap63
Sep 22 2015, 08:17 AM
ssedai
Sep 22 2015, 01:03 AM
I hated Anna when she first arrived in Salem. She grew on me.
Same with me. I learned to love her especially with Tony. That's Saddle shoes (per Alex Marshall) ($$$$$ & FOOD). :blulaugh:
Me too. I was team Tony/Renee all the way. Even after the writers let Renee succumb to her dark Dimera urges, I still detested Anna, so much so that I was hoping she'd be another victim of the Salem Slasher. Once she started Anna Dimera Designs and they began focusing on Leann's comedic talents (especially with Quinn and Arleen), I fell in love.

I'm really hoping Leann is one of the as-yet-unannounced returns. :pray:

Spoilers for the Week of September 28th
Salemwatcher
Sep 21 2015, 03:00 PM
throughthehourglass
Sep 21 2015, 02:59 PM
jwsel
Sep 21 2015, 12:19 PM
LanaluvsBroe
Sep 21 2015, 11:23 AM

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I'm really wondering how they are going to handle Shane and Kim. Are they going to be at the funeral but always in another room? Flight problems?

It's really hard to accept that wasn't on the first flight to Salem. He should be there, providing support to Eve and breathing down Roman's, Rafe's, and Hope's necks about finding the killer.
I'm really hoping that Shane (and Kimberly) make a surprise appearance at Paige's funeral. Hey, a girl can dream.
It's rare that they have fired actors come back. They didn't allow Marlena and John to come back for Grace's funeral.
But technically, Charles and Patsy weren't fired (well, Patsy was years ago but she's long made amends with the show). They've both made multiple short-term visits over the past decade. I hope the show pulls a real surprise on us and they show up (or at least Shane does).

Jason47's Weekly Thread: Week of 9/21-9/27
Jason47
Sep 21 2015, 03:05 PM
Restless84
Sep 21 2015, 03:02 PM
Jason47
Sep 21 2015, 02:59 PM
Lovejm
Sep 21 2015, 02:57 PM
The assailant?
He's a stunt man...he's the masked man who will attack Marlena on Wednesday (subbing for the real actor).
Interesting.
Fun Fact: He's previously played John's stunt double in 2014 and Clyde's stunt double earlier this year.
Another fun fact: he's gorgeous!!! :wub:

TV Insider: Thaao Interview
AntonyDimera
Sep 20 2015, 11:55 PM
I started watching Days in 2002 because the portrayal of Tony DiMera was just amazing. He was charming and sympathetic, diabolical and mysterious all at the same time. The ambiguity of the guy made him interesting to watch.

I think the writers made a huge mistake in 2007 when they split him into "good" Tony and "bad" Andre. It worked for the Salem Slasher story, but this time it was a lazy quick-fix that oversimplified both characters and created a bunch of plot holes (like the Kristen one Salemwatcher mentioned).

Hopefully making Andre into Stefano's son and humanizing him a bit, and all this stuff we're reading about means they're returning him to his early 00's self: a character who's hard to figure out, and endearing because of it. I really hope that is what's happening here.
I really don't want Andre humanized at all. I want him dead. For good. He will always be a cold-blooded killer who never really paid for his crimes. I want Stefano to use him to his own ends, then kill him for the murders of Renee and Benji.

Tony is the Dimera we need. He's complicated, suave and debonair, and he has a dark streak as well. I feel like they wanted to have Thaao portraying Stefano's biological son as the "next gen" Dimera, so they had to retconn Andre as his son to avoid the Tony-Renee incest angle.

Weekly Preview 9/21/2015
AntonyDimera
Sep 20 2015, 06:08 PM
Hello all, first-time poster!

The promo looks fantastic. First time in years that I'm watching the show again and it's nice to share in everyone's excitement.

I hope they portray Andre as a cunning strategist again, and not a raving lunatic like he was in 2007. After all, it was Andre all through the 90's and early 00's... he's been onscreen more than Tony.
Welcome to the group, Antony, from your loving sister, Renee. And I do mean *loving* sister. :blulaugh:

Jason47's Weekly Thread: Week of 9/14-9/20
HOURGLASS85
Sep 17 2015, 08:31 PM
Agree that Stephen Schnetzer to return would be great. He was great actor and well liked on Another World. Very charming.
This would be thrilling! I've also thought for several years that his on-screen Another World wife, Alice Barrett (Frankie), would make a great recast for Sandy Horton.

TV Insider: Thaao Interview
jdawg1077
Sep 17 2015, 11:19 AM
Renee Dimera
Sep 17 2015, 11:13 AM
Dr. Chip
Sep 17 2015, 10:52 AM
If Andre was Stefano's son, Stefano had to have known this. He had to have known that he wasn't a nephew who just happened to look like his son. And yet Stefano was furious with Daphne when Tony's "true" parentage was revealed, and this caused a lot of heartbreak for Tony and Renee. If Stefano had just been honest with all parties, Tony and Renee (brother and sister) probably would not have slept together and Renee might still be alive today. LOL!

Anyway...this sounds incredible, and I'm willing to accept this retcon and run with it.
Sadly, I think this will be glossed over. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they just imply that Andre and Tony were actually brothers and just leave it at that. When Tony first returned in the early 90s, JER wrote it so that "some crazy woman" tried to make Stefano and Tony think they weren't related. "Some crazy woman" is how they actually referred to Daphne. :-/

As for Renee, they don't want us to remember that she ever existed. Which is a shame, because she's one DiMera who really should rise from the grave. She was briefly mentioned during the last "reset" in 2011, but that was probably a one-off reference. :(
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the history of Andre say that he had surgery to look like Tony? I don't think he naturally looked like Tony, but had plastic surgery so that he could mimic him and commit the Salem Slasher crimes.

And if Tony and Andre are in fact brothers, then that means that Renee slept with both of her brothers. She had a long romance with Tony, and I believe she slept with Andre the night she was murdered.

And I whole-heartedly agree: I am going to REQUIRE a Renee mention with Andre's return. A Benji mention too. The last time Renee was mentioned was in a conversation between EJ and Stefano, and I just about fell out of my chair. I hope she is brought up again. So much rich history there of one of Days' greatest storylines.
Yes, Andre was given plastic surgery to look like Tony.

So Stefano forced his son (Andre) to have plastic surgery, after which he killed his own sister who was in love with the man who was presumed to be his brother, but was not, but whom he now resembled. :blink:

TV Insider: Thaao Interview
Dr. Chip
Sep 17 2015, 11:21 AM
I think Renee slept with Tony. Andre then replaced Tony, Renee realized this, and so Andre killed her...I think. I don't think she slept with Andre. ??
Yes, Renee slept with Tony, who then left her in her bedroom to go to the wine cellar to get a bottle of wine to celebrate their reconciliation. It was there that he was kidnapped and Andre went back up to Renee's bedroom in Tony's place. She immediately knew he was in imposter, and ... :'(

TV Insider: Thaao Interview
Dr. Chip
Sep 17 2015, 10:52 AM
If Andre was Stefano's son, Stefano had to have known this. He had to have known that he wasn't a nephew who just happened to look like his son. And yet Stefano was furious with Daphne when Tony's "true" parentage was revealed, and this caused a lot of heartbreak for Tony and Renee. If Stefano had just been honest with all parties, Tony and Renee (brother and sister) probably would not have slept together and Renee might still be alive today. LOL!

Anyway...this sounds incredible, and I'm willing to accept this retcon and run with it.
Sadly, I think this will be glossed over. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they just imply that Andre and Tony were actually brothers and just leave it at that. When Tony first returned in the early 90s, JER wrote it so that "some crazy woman" tried to make Stefano and Tony think they weren't related. "Some crazy woman" is how they actually referred to Daphne. :-/

As for Renee, they don't want us to remember that she ever existed. Which is a shame, because she's one DiMera who really should rise from the grave. She was briefly mentioned during the last "reset" in 2011, but that was probably a one-off reference. :(

Spoilers for the Week of September 21st
DaysBopeLuv
Sep 16 2015, 06:57 PM
Renee Dimera
Sep 16 2015, 09:55 AM
boogiebear
Sep 16 2015, 07:33 AM
No1_ILoveLucyFan
Sep 16 2015, 07:19 AM
If Clyde pulls off a mask & reveals himself to be Andre, I will seriously tip over laughing.
I hope that doesnt happen i know they did it a longtime ago but, Days doesnt need to follow in GH's footsteps i hated that fluke storyline.
Not to mention that Kate slept with Clyde before and after his "death" in February. If she couldn't tell it was a different man's body, she's dumber than a stump. Or just completely blinded by horniness. :teehee:
Well in 1999 Bo slept with princess Gina thinking she was Hope. He had been with a Hope for many years and couldn't tell the difference! So it's not like it hasn't happened before.
Sure, but in that case and in the case of Sami sleeping with Faux Rafe, it was the same actor playing both roles. You could stretch credibility just a bit to think that they might have similar bodies or bodies altered by plastic surgery. (Although it's unforgivable that Bo wouldn't know Gina wasn't Hope). Thaao Penghlis has a much darker complexion that James Read, and if he were wearing a Clyde "mask," it would be pretty damn obvious when he took off his shirt.

Of course, this show has done much worse, so... what evs. :blulaugh:

Guy Wilson leaving Days!
JoeBucs32
Sep 17 2015, 08:40 AM
I have a real problem with this news -- and not because I'm a Guy Wilson fan.

First, we are losing another Horton and I have yet to hear about any other Hortons being brought back. This is a problem.

Second, over the past two years, DAYS has received and accepted every LGBT award possible -- for its portrayal of Will's coming out and Will & Sonny's wedding. With all those awards and accolades received, DAYS has now destroyed WilSon, written off Sonny, and killed Will -- leaving Paul as its only gay character and no storyline on the horizon for him.

It's embarrassing and a bit shameful.
I absolutely agree with you. In fact, I'm truly stunned that they're killing Will. I expected that Will would leave town for a bit and return at some point with a recast.

I have a feeling that Salem will assume that Will is dead, but we won't have a body. They've almost GOT to leave the door open for the character to return.

Spoilers for the Week of September 21st
boogiebear
Sep 16 2015, 07:33 AM
No1_ILoveLucyFan
Sep 16 2015, 07:19 AM
If Clyde pulls off a mask & reveals himself to be Andre, I will seriously tip over laughing.
I hope that doesnt happen i know they did it a longtime ago but, Days doesnt need to follow in GH's footsteps i hated that fluke storyline.
Not to mention that Kate slept with Clyde before and after his "death" in February. If she couldn't tell it was a different man's body, she's dumber than a stump. Or just completely blinded by horniness. :teehee:

Shawn Christian leaving Days!
Inara Serra
Sep 14 2015, 11:23 AM
Well, if he's not a serial killer victim that leaves...

He's the serial killer and dies in a shootout (not likely given Dena's "poignant" comment).

No, I think he is the killer and the poignant moment will be when he takes Nicole hostage and the cops are forced to shoot him. He'll die in Nicole's arms while murmuring "I'm so sorry...I never meant to hurt anyone. I just couldn't stop myself."

A poignant death and being the serial killer are not mutually exclusive, IMO.

Jason47's Weekly Thread: Week of 9/7-9/13
Wonderful stuff! Thank you, Jason! If memory serves me correctly, Arleen Sorkin wasn't on contract in 1985, yet here she is listed with the contract cast. Do you know if her lack of contract status was her choice? They obviously wouldn't have included her in the kit if they didn't consider her essential to the show.

I can't wait to see the 1981 press kit with my beloved Renee. ;)

Wednesday, September 9th Daily Discussion
Okay, I'm very interested to see how they handle the Shane angle here. I mean, Shane Donovan's granddaughter has been brutally murdered. He would absolutely be on the next plane to Salem! I wonder if we're getting a surprise, hush-hush visit from Charles. :pray:

Weekly Preview 9/7/2015
Am I the only who's somewhat upset by Paige's impending death? Now, I'm not a fan of the character and would be happy to see her leave town, but having her die at the hands of the serial killer is so harsh.

The poor girl gives up her chance to go to Stanford so she can stay in town with her boyfriend (and with JJ/Casey's arms, chest, and angelic face who could blame her?). She's not ready for sex, so said boyfriend morphs into a horndog and fucks her narcissistic, manipulative bitch of a mother repeatedly. Mommy conspires to keep her away from the horndog while continuing to mount him herself. Paige learns the truth, is crushed, and responds by writing them both off and hanging with the wrong crowd. Now, as she's softening to the horndog and showing signs of real strength, she's strangled by a surgeon with a God complex?

Storytelling isn't necessarily always fair, but DAMN!

Regardless, I wish True O'Brien the best of luck in the future.

Had to get that off my chest...