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Y&R: Spoilers for the week of December 5th
Mrs. Martinez is returning! Michael and Lauren are getting a storyline that involves Fenmores!

Y&R: Spoilers for the week of November 28th
I decided like last week I was gonna stop watching until Sally's stuff airs but it sounds like some juicy stuff has been happening. I'll have to watch some of these episodes later when I get a chance!

Y&R: November Discussion
metitle
Nov 25 2016, 11:17 AM
Panda Panda
Nov 25 2016, 05:17 AM
lol Shonda Rhimes can't write. She steals almost all her ideas from actual soap operas and give them a primetime "edge".
I am sure a lot of writers including current and past soap writers have submitted story ideas to many networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, HBO, etc.) and I assume they are still awaiting a call back on their submission.
But Shonda Rhimes has managed to write dramas that warrant call back from one network. And those dramas has gone on and made tons of monies for the network as well as the folks who work on them.
Previous similar shows such as Trapper John MD, Falcon Crest, Dynasty, Dallas, MASH, etc. were all written on the same foundation Ms. Rhimes used to create her shows.
To borrow from other previous dramas isn’t shocking or new……..in fact, Aaaron Spelling, Earl Hammer, Don Brinkley, Chuckie Pratt, et al all have used former writers ideas to create their own. Its not their fault that they are able to look at screen plays or even mediocre soaps and create stories or shows that has similar with foundation. Besides all shows within the same genre usually have the same foundation and its up to the writers to layer the foundation to give it a modern edge so the show can be successful.

I would bet my paycheck that Ms. Sussman has submitted ideas to networks, just like every aspiring writer within the industry. And like all those aspiring writers she is also awaiting a call back. But for now, she will be writing for Y&R and so she will have a paycheck for awhile.
Well we all know soaps are a dying genre and that's what SSM specializes in so obviously it speaks for itself as for why she doesn't currently have her own show, but she did have her own soap opera back in the 90's called Generations.

Most of the people who praise how much of a genius Bill Bell was often forget people like SS and Kay Alden who stayed in the background but created some amazing work

Y&R: November Discussion
Why shouldn't she blast LML (who is her former employer) considering she had no respect for Bill Bell's legacy? It's not like she is her current boss. She should be able to speak her mind about what that woman did to the fabric of the show. She destroyed so much of what people loved about Y&R for decades!

Y&R: November Discussion
thepadange
Nov 25 2016, 11:07 AM
Queen B
Nov 25 2016, 10:39 AM
thepadange
Nov 25 2016, 10:33 AM

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She wrote Jacks affair with Jill in the 1980's, she's responsible for the real life scene of Jeanne Cooper getting a facelift on the show, she wrote Sami's execution storyline on DAYS (one of my favourite storylines to this day), she also wrote Carrie and Mike's romance.


She started working on Y&R in 1982. That's a long time to understand these characters and the core of the show. Do you really think she has no right to criticize these writers who've came onto this show and didn't know the history? I'd say she has more than enough right to do so, especially since Bill Bell is no longer around. It would've been nice to hear from Kay Alden too, but maybe we still will in the future.
I can only say that if I returned to my former employer after 10 years of doing other things, my first step there definitely wouldn't be trashing (or making fun of) people, who were doing their job (no matter how bad) when I wasn't there, to our clients (the audience is their clients), especially if I wasn't familiar with what exactly these people were doing (SS said she didn't watch).
Yes, she is familiar with the history of the show (80s etc) but the last 10 years, she says she has no attachment to, are the show's history too, whether she wants it or not.
Chuck Pratt is not her former employer LOL. The stuff she is talking shit about are all the same things we've been talking shit about on here for years. If she was saying how much she loved Philly and wanted them to be the next big couple on Y&R, I have a feeling you'd have a very different take on that interview JS.

Y&R: November Discussion
thepadange
Nov 25 2016, 10:33 AM
Queen B
Nov 25 2016, 10:13 AM
thepadange
Nov 25 2016, 06:58 AM

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TB credited SS for creating Lauren Fenmore. Just because Bill Bell was head writer and EP doesnt mean SS wasn't a big contribution back then.

She's been working with this show for the majority of its run.
For the majority of it's run?
All I see is 5 years as s/l consultant/writer in the 80s under Bill Bell.

And then 18 months (including 9 or 10 months under HW Lynn Marie Latham) during the last 25 years.
Please, correct me, if this info is wrong.

That said I'm not trying to imply she will be a bad writer but these credits are not enough for me to a priori assume she'll do wonders at Y&R.

She has HW experiece at Days, though. I wish she were there as a co-HW with Ryan Quan.
She wrote Jacks affair with Jill in the 1980's, she's responsible for the real life scene of Jeanne Cooper getting a facelift on the show, she wrote Sami's execution storyline on DAYS (one of my favourite storylines to this day), she also wrote Carrie and Mike's romance.


She started working on Y&R in 1982. That's a long time to understand these characters and the core of the show. Do you really think she has no right to criticize these writers who've came onto this show and didn't know the history? I'd say she has more than enough right to do so, especially since Bill Bell is no longer around. It would've been nice to hear from Kay Alden too, but maybe we still will in the future.

Y&R: November Discussion
Panda Panda
Nov 25 2016, 05:17 AM
lol Shonda Rhimes can't write. She steals almost all her ideas from actual soap operas and give them a primetime "edge".
I was gonna say... LOL

Y&R: November Discussion
It's not just the EP and head writers who creates characters and makes those decisions. They have plenty of creative people on their team. The EP gets the last word though.

SS created Lauren and is responsible for the MANY great storylines we've seen during Y&R's golden years.

Y&R: November Discussion
thepadange
Nov 25 2016, 06:58 AM
Queen B
Nov 24 2016, 05:31 PM
thepadange
Nov 24 2016, 04:07 AM

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She's been apart of the Y&R team for most of its run FFS.. She has the work to show for it. She created Lauren Fenmore and who knows how many other characters we've come to love.

If anyone has the right to call out the shitty writing its her, and Kay Alden.
Not saying she is a newcomer to Daytime but... Josh Griffith's reputation was great too before he started at Days... We saw what happened...

It might not be accurate but according to wikki SS's positions at Y&R were (edited to add: I checked the IMDb, too):
Quote:
 
Associate Head Writer: June 10, 2005 - November 2006
Breakdown Writer: June 10, 2005 - November 2006
Writer: 1984 - 1988
Storyline Consultant: 1983-1987 (hired by William J. Bell), May 17, 2005 - May 12, 2006 (hired by John F. Smith)
Head Writer: December 7, 2016 – present
Co-Executive Producer: December 7, 2016 – present

:shrug:
No HW positions, and not every current viewer watched this show in 1983-1988. So we can't say the audience (especially, the younger viewers) is (are) familiar with her writing.

Bill Bell was the HW/EP when Lauren Fenmore was introduced.
TB credited SS for creating Lauren Fenmore. Just because Bill Bell was head writer and EP doesnt mean SS wasn't a big contribution back then.

She's been working with this show for the majority of its run.

Y&R: November Discussion
metitle
Nov 24 2016, 11:07 AM
thepadange
Nov 24 2016, 04:07 AM
Queen B
Nov 23 2016, 06:38 PM
Chuck Pratt sounded just as arrogant in his interviews but somehow he got a pass. The worst part? He was arrogant about all the wrong things. Pratt is one of the people that SS refers to in her interview when she says "no one wants to admit their mistakes anymore!". It's true. These writers come in and FUCK up Y&R but then walk away thinking their version of the show was just so good. That is the definition of arrogance, and delusion.
No matter who is giving an interview I don't think it's professional to trash other people's work because it's still the same show.
If SS had given this kind of interview 3-4 years into her successful writing I probably would have found her statements ok, now she has yet to prove she's better than people she criticizes.
maybe Pratt and Sussman have history..........that is maybe they clashed in previous work environment.
I dont know, on one instance.....I am glad Sussman is marking her territory and is willing to defend her work by being snide about another writer. I guess you can do that if you are confident of your writing.
Shonda Rhimes can do that, because she can write.
but then on the other hand, I see it as thepadange sees it.......that is, its unprofessional of Sussman to be stooping that low with her comments. Again, if she is Shonda Rhimes, then she can stoop anyway she wants.
Anyway, I am still not happy that Sussman will continue the kibosh on Philly. But its okay that she is going to re-work the Sharon character.
Shonda Rhimes? Wuh?

Y&R has been writing Y&R for most of its run!! It's only since 2005 that she got the boot by that awful LML. She is a seasoned soap writer. I don't understand why everyone has this idea that she's new lol.

Y&R: November Discussion
thepadange
Nov 24 2016, 04:07 AM
Queen B
Nov 23 2016, 06:38 PM
Chuck Pratt sounded just as arrogant in his interviews but somehow he got a pass. The worst part? He was arrogant about all the wrong things. Pratt is one of the people that SS refers to in her interview when she says "no one wants to admit their mistakes anymore!". It's true. These writers come in and FUCK up Y&R but then walk away thinking their version of the show was just so good. That is the definition of arrogance, and delusion.
No matter who is giving an interview I don't think it's professional to trash other people's work because it's still the same show.
If SS had given this kind of interview 3-4 years into her successful writing I probably would have found her statements ok, now she has yet to prove she's better than people she criticizes.
She's been apart of the Y&R team for most of its run FFS.. She has the work to show for it. She created Lauren Fenmore and who knows how many other characters we've come to love.

If anyone has the right to call out the shitty writing its her, and Kay Alden.

Y&R: Spoilers for the week of November 21st
Sandell
Nov 24 2016, 01:00 PM
thepadange
Nov 23 2016, 03:26 PM
Sandell
Nov 23 2016, 03:22 PM

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No, DR doesn't ban people like that, SOC does :lol: .
Good to know about DR...

I know all about SOC. The Mods there who think they are 'God' are so ridiculous it isn't even funny. I could never say anything. I'd start a thread, then come back, POOF the effer was gone. After several times this happened to me, I asked one of the Mods, why the hell my threads were being taken down?
He/she told me, "Oh, it must have just rolled off" Yeah sure! :soapbox:

That was a bunch of crap. It was deleted, I could go on and on about them. I just read spoilers there and hardly ever post.
Oh I got banned from there too for insulting some shitty actress (can't remember if it was paprika, syphyllis or hicktoria)

Y&R: Promo for week of November 28th The Battle Begins
Christine just recently got her hair cut. As for Sharon... yeah she needs to cut that mess. She's had the same hairstyle for 20 years. I think she's beautiful but she needs something different, and not that awkward looking side bang she occasionally does because it makes her look older

Y&R: November Discussion
HollyGolightly
Nov 23 2016, 08:28 PM
metitle
Nov 23 2016, 07:12 PM
sensgirl
Nov 23 2016, 06:40 PM
Villy was popular with BM in the role, but not anymore. I'm loving JT as Billy, but I'm so over Villy.
I NEVER liked Villy.
I hated that coupling from day one.
I personally think BM quit because of the lackluster Villy storyline.
Jason Thompson (JT) seems like he has embrace the role of Billy.
but he is no Billy Miller, so his Billy feels different
I think Billy Miller quit because of JFP(he was not one of her FOJ) and also when his contract came up,
they didn't want give him some outs, so he could pursue other projects, as he did before.
Besides, JFP did not want anyone to outshine her golden boy (Dylan)...
That year, Billy Miller won the Daytime Emmy for the Delia storyline and in his thank-you speech,
he deliberately did NOT mention JFP, LOL!
Anyhow, I love both actors(BM & JT) in the role of Billy.
If only Heather Tom would come back as Victoria, that would make for an explosive Billy/Phyllis/Victoria triangle.
Sigh...one can only dream!

Boy, I missed you guys and this board!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!
OMG I've never thought about how epic a triangle with Billy/Phyllis/Victoria would be if Heather Tom was in the role. You're so right!

Weekly Preview 11/28/16
I want Bonnie Lockhart back :blulaugh:

Adrienne is so bloody dull!

Weekly Preview 11/28/16
Lucas and Adrienne is just so... ICK.

Adrienne looks like she could be his auntie or something.

Y&R: Spoilers for the week of November 21st
Good for Dylan! For marching into that house and telling Nick that he is suing him for visitation. Nick had been so selfish throughout this whole process. He doesn't give a fuck about Sharon or Dylan's feelings in this. Hes shown very little sensitivity towards them and his best solution in his mind is to distance himself from Dylan and Sharon. Meanwhile he's just living his life like nothing bothers him, when there are people involved who are hurt by this reveal. I hope he loses Christian! He doesn't deserve him!

Y&R: Spoilers for the week of November 28th
I don't even know if I need to paternity truth to come out. We've seen how these reveals go, they suck. They pay off is never worth it so personally I'm willing to stick it in the back of my head and forget about it for years if I have to.

Y&R: November Discussion
Chuck Pratt sounded just as arrogant in his interviews but somehow he got a pass. The worst part? He was arrogant about all the wrong things. Pratt is one of the people that SS refers to in her interview when she says "no one wants to admit their mistakes anymore!". It's true. These writers come in and FUCK up Y&R but then walk away thinking their version of the show was just so good. That is the definition of arrogance, and delusion.