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Thursday, December 27th Daily Discussion
mer4santo
Dec 27 2012, 11:11 PM
I felt like almost every scene with every pairing was having the same conversation about getting together and why they couldn't get together only to talk about getting together again. Somebody fucking DO something.

Rafe blowing Sami a new asshole was fun but I will agree with Lysie, I don't like Rafe/Nicole friendship. GG and AZ have good chemistry but I struggle with Rafe being besties with the woman who caused the love of his life pain and suffering.

I liked JA as Santa but I hate Victor as Santa.

MR needs someone to fix that color in her hair; it's far worse than anything LK has ever tried to pull off.

They need to recast sourpuss Sydney.

Why aren't we seeing more of Kate and Lucas and less of Maggie and Dan?

EJ just plain sucks now. I cannot stand anything about him but the Pretty and the Pretty was at least dressed decently yesterday.

Sonny needs a personality.

Eric is the best thing going on this show.

WTF was Nicole doing regarding Eric outside of behaving like an insane person?


If EJ can forgive Sami shooting him in the head while he was passed out and Sami can forgive EJ for hiding Sydney from her,making her think Sydney was dead,making her tell Johnny she did not love him while he was have surgery for eye cancer,making her give him custody when she married Rafe,and not telling her Rafe had been replaced with a look alike,I think Rafe could over looked what Nicole did concerning Sydney.Nicole did pay for what she did which is more than Sami or EJ did.

Daniel and Jennifer Move On
carol3023
Dec 27 2012, 10:25 PM
I got so excited when I saw this post. I thought it meant that they were MOVING ON...as in leaving Salem to NEVER EVER EVER return again. Oh well, it was a good feeling while it lasted :'(

I skipped the other threads to read this thread.I thought I was going to read how they were being written off the show.One can dream.I won't be reading a lot of this thread since there is nothing new to be said about these two although I think it is disgusting that Daniel is thinking about having sex with Jennifer four months after her fiance died saving their first born but I guess Daniel is not going to make Jack more important to him than Jack is to Jennifer and Abby.

Casting tidbits
I hope Nadia and Talia are more animated.The last two Sydneys were very wooden.It makes you wonder what the show saw when they were chosen for the role.

Spoilers for the week of January 7th
SocRMum1
Dec 27 2012, 10:30 AM
Helpless Romantic
Dec 27 2012, 10:26 AM
lysie
Dec 27 2012, 10:16 AM
SocRMum1
Dec 27 2012, 10:13 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
The problem with that, IMO, is that that kills what was originally fresh about them in the beginning.
Yep and EJ is just too obsessed with her like Sami was Austin to let her actually COME TO HIM free of some manipulation subtle or not. At this point they are stale and WAY passed their expiration date. The PTB need to stick a fork in this shit they are done.
What they need to stick a fork in is the tired triangles. If they are going with EJami 'lock, stock and barrel' it needs to be based on mutual commitment and eliminate any sign of either one of the 'settling' for the other. That has never been done with this couple so it would be completely fresh and new. Couples can be given angsty writing without throwing in third party romantic rivals. DAYS just seems to have forgotten that.
I like EJ with Nicole but if they want to go with EJ/Samil "lock,stock,and barrel" or any other way,JUST GET ON WITH IT.I WILL LIVE AND WATCH,JUST DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN SAMI/RAFE OR SAMI/EJ EVERY OTHER DAY!!!

Tuesday, December 25th Daily Discussion
LuLu2102
Dec 27 2012, 04:33 PM
I only tuned in for this episode because I've been watching Christmas at the Hortons since 1983 and I'm a sucker for it. It's a testament to what this show used to be that just the sight of former characters' ornaments can elicit an emotional reaction from me. They were well-developed over the years by the writers and the actors that they seemed like real people that we knew. I miss feeling that way about the characters.

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I'm glad Jack's ornament went up, although the presence of Daniel's still makes me grind my teeth. Jen-Jen's touching both of them, one after the other, annoyed me too--a typically heavy-handed T&W touch no doubt illustrating how she's moving on from her first to her second "great love." :rolleyes: And what's with Jennifer continually smooching DeadJack's picture? Last year, she begrudged the living man even a single kiss under the mistletoe at Christmas, while making out with Daniel right in front of him at the tree trimming. TIIC may want viewers to forget how horribly she treated him--like an interloper and intruder--but that's so not going to happen. And "Thank you for taking such good care of me"? Where did that come from? According to Bitchifer's most bitter complaints last year, Jack was "never there for [her]." How nice that, in death, he finally lives up to her unrealistic expectations.


This bugged me to no end as well. Where do the writers get off having Jennifer treat Jack like an irritant, showing him little to no compassion, criticizing him at every opportunity will he was alive, but now that he's dead, act as if she was a loving, devoted wife who is somehow managing to drag herself out of her grief to embrace the miracle of a second chance at love with Daniel the Saint? It's such sloppy, lazy storytelling. These writers just swept in and started telling the stories they wanted to tell, without any regard to even the most recent history. I'd have more respect for them if they had Jennifer confessing to Daniel that her feelings for Jack never came back after he re-appeared, that she only got back together with him because Daniel had rejected her, and that she's sad that Jack's dead, but she isn't mourning him as a wife would her husband. I would hate it as a former Jack and Jennifer fan, that that's how their once-amazing story ended up, and it still wouldn't convince me to root for Jennifer and Daniel (or Jennifer and anybody), but at least it would have been consistent with the story over the last year.

Her "thank you for taking care of me" is, I think, the writers' heavy-handed way of implying that Jack is overseeing, and maybe even orchestrating, this latest go-around with Daniel. Implying that, just as Jack wanted Jennifer to be with Frankie after one of his previous deaths, he'd again want her to be "taken care of", by Daniel this time.

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Also, I didn't think it was necessary to bring EVERY character on today's episode (plus John) together at St. Luke's Catholic Church. As far as I'm concerned none of the Hortons (besides maybe Hope) have ever converted to Catholicism. So I'm not sure why they went to midnight mass. I don't think it's ever been stated whether the Kiriakis family are Catholic or not, but I know the Hortons aren't.


Seriously, the writers can't be that unfamiliar with various religions that they think all Christians are Catholics, could they? I can't believe that the actors wouldn't say something, like, "Hey, half of the characters at this Mass aren't Catholic", but I wouldn't be surprised if they learned a long time ago that character continuity is not high on the priority list of anyone in charge over there. I get that they wanted to have their montage of everyone singing hymns on Christmas, but they could have done that with two different groups on two different sets. Of course, it was probably budget constraints that make another set impractical. But they easily could have explained everyone going to Mass as a show of support for Father Eric. A family friend was presiding over a Christian service for the first time since returning home, and I would totally buy the Protestant Hortons celebrating Christmas at St. Luke's just for that reason. It could have been explained in one line of dialogue, but the writers obviously don't think the viewers will notice, and they don't care even if we do.
I am catholic.We often have non catholic visitors at mass.They attend with family members or friends who are catholic.Occasionally visitors just come to mass on their own.We welcome anyone who comes to the mass for any reason.I just assumed the Victor,Daniel,and the Hortons and would know it was Eric's first mass and would attend the mass for that reason.

Monday, December 24th Daily Discussion
LanaluvsBroe
Dec 24 2012, 01:52 PM
JtSmarts
Dec 24 2012, 01:49 PM
Is this the first day of new Cameron?
Yes, that's new Cameron. So far I like him.
He doesn't look old enough to be a doctor unless he supposed to be some sort of protege.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
Helpless Romantic
Dec 25 2012, 11:41 PM
BeeBee
Dec 25 2012, 11:26 PM
Panda Panda
Dec 24 2012, 08:12 PM
Hamilton
Dec 24 2012, 08:02 PM
John and Brady get into a physical altercation over Kristen, leading to the father and son being hospitalized. Later, an emotional Sami runs into Rafe and bursts into tears over her family falling apart. Will Rafe be able to comfort Sami and help her through her pain?

Since when did Sami give a flying fuck about John and Brady?
Sami has just recently began to tolerate her own mother and speak to her without contempt so I find it really strange that they would actually have her crying because John and Brady got into a physical altercation.Making contemptous remarks about John and Brady,yes,crying no way.There has to be more to it than the fight.
Actually up until MarDar's regression of Sami this past year Sami had made peace with both John and Marlena from late 06- 09 when they left. With continued references about them even giving her money which she later gave Nicole and of course her stay at their townhouse. Once J&M left and Sami got out of WP a close relationship was built with EM Brady and Sami where they would confide in each other and act like siblings/ family. So Sami being upset is in keeping with the bond that was re-established btwn them so I see nothing wrong with it and very much enjoy the sibling chemistry btwn EM and AS. It sure beats Sami being regressed to being a shrew who STILL had no brain under MarDar laughing it up with Elvis :puke: At this point I would rather see her involved with her family than have the writers telling me she's supposedley "torn btwn Rafe and EJ but I don't see it. Its a refreshing change to once again have her involved with her family than the ping pong men game they constantly have her playing.
You may be right but I still don't see Sami actually bursting into tears because John and Brady have been fighting for any reason let alone Kristen.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
Panda Panda
Dec 24 2012, 08:12 PM
Hamilton
Dec 24 2012, 08:02 PM
John and Brady get into a physical altercation over Kristen, leading to the father and son being hospitalized. Later, an emotional Sami runs into Rafe and bursts into tears over her family falling apart. Will Rafe be able to comfort Sami and help her through her pain?

Since when did Sami give a flying fuck about John and Brady?
Sami has just recently began to tolerate her own mother and speak to her without contempt so I find it really strange that they would actually have her crying because John and Brady got into a physical altercation.Making contemptous remarks about John and Brady,yes,crying no way.There has to be more to it than the fight.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
lysie
Dec 24 2012, 12:18 AM
Oh my God. Stop.
It worked.I've been waiting to see who has the nerve to continue.When you type it out instead of "OMG" we know you mean business.It's like when your mom uses your first and middle name.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
Daysdegrassi
Dec 23 2012, 02:38 PM
camera shy
Dec 23 2012, 02:18 PM
Ljay
Dec 23 2012, 01:53 PM
Daysdegrassi
Dec 23 2012, 01:10 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI do not think the Racole friendship will be over. They were still close when Safe were reunited in October. I want a Racole hookup. Ericole is too boring for my tastes. :D


This is just my opinion...But even if Racole hook up for any certain amount of time it wont last. Rafe is too emotionally involved or whatever with Sami. And as for Ericole? Well, Nicole is gonna have to wrestle Eric away from the church before she can lead him off into temptation. And we all know its gonna happen.

SO to make a long story short. Racole will be as short lived as Carrie/Rafe or even Lucas/Chloe.

JMO, dont hurt me!
Eric really has no business being a priest considering why he became one. I hope he comes to that conclusion before he even thinks about starting something up with Nicole.
I agree with this. It doesn't make sense for Eric to be a priest just because another man who happened to be a priest died. The writers should've made the backstory more interesting and written it to make more sense. I also agree with your most recent post.
If Eric was brought back to Salem as a love interest for Nicole,they should not have made him a priest.If he is really is going to be in a relationship with Nicole,I hope they have him leave the priesthood before there is anything romantic between them. I would not have a problem with them getting together after Eric has left the priesthood and worked out all issues with his family related to him leaving so there is no basis for a conclusion that Nicole caused him to leave the priesthood.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
I must admit I am looking forward to seeing the expression on John and Marlena's faces while Brady is explaning his feeling for Kristen and defending her as well as hearing what all of them will be saying at these times.Also looking forward to seeing Chloe.Actually I am looking forward to the entire week of Brady/Kristen/John/Marlena.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
Daysbabe
Dec 22 2012, 01:15 PM
BeeBee
Dec 22 2012, 01:01 AM
Rafe tells Nicole he thinks things will work out with Sami!!!Rafe promises Sami they will be together!!! What happened happened to Rafe breaks up with Sami and lock,stock,and barrel EJ/Sami?!!!

Although I do like the fact that Rafe and Nicole are still friends,he confides in her.Looking forward to seeing Rafe/Nicole not so much Rafe/Sami.
I would love for these two to hook up. This would piss off Sami and Ej. EJ because she would be more in Racole relationship then in ejami. Lucas laughing at her. Saying u want what u can't have! I am glad they still have the friendship but would love for it to be more than that. I am looking forward to Racole hook up this year or maybe next year. If Rafe does get back with Sami do u think Rafe would end his friendship with Nicole? Rafe and Nicole is more interesting to me. Just my opinion. :)
Rafe is not the type of character who would end the friendship because he got back with Sami.When Nicole asked Rafe to keep the paternity of her baby secret after the baby died,Rafe kept the secret even when Sami asked him to tell her whether the baby was his baby while they were getting back together.Rafe stuck by Nicole even after he found out she lied about Jennifer pushing her down the stairs.Rafe is loyal to anyone he befriends or loves.Rafe stood by Sami once they became friends and started to fall in love at the safehouse.He risked his job,freedom,and integrity to help shield Sami from justice for criminal behavior.He still loves Sami and would take her back even though she had sex with EJ after all EJ has done to her and to him.He tried to help Gabi when he found out about her part in the kidnapping and about the baby.As a person I prize this kind of loyalty to others and that is why I will always like Rafe as he has been written thus far.I must admit I also liked Rafe 2,he was very funny up to the point he pushed Fay down the stairs and later killed her.
I think I mentioned in another thread that I would not mind a Rafe/Nicole/Eric or Rafe/Nicole/anyone triangle.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
Helpless Romantic
Dec 22 2012, 01:07 AM
BeeBee
Dec 22 2012, 01:01 AM
Rafe tells Nicole he thinks things will work out with Sami!!!Rafe promises Sami they will be together!!! What happened happened to Rafe breaks up with Sami and lock,stock,and barrel EJ/Sami?!!!

Although I do like the fact that Rafe and Nicole are still friends,he confides in her.Looking forward to seeing Rafe/Nicole not so much Rafe/Sami.
Polly want a cracker? the PTB may as well use that as their tag line. It's a tactic to get SAFE fans watching, then we have "EJ making dinner for Sami"another cracker to get EJamis watching and finally the EJ and Nicole interaction to get EJOLE's watching only problem with this theory is they are sorely mistaken if they think this is entertaining for us. The ONLY thing they are "locked in" is this merry go round. Even if they do make a choice in the next few months it wont last as it NEVER does.
Based on what I have seen the last three years,I fear you are right.The repetitive storyline will continue with each fan base getting something when it is there turn.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
Rafe tells Nicole he thinks things will work out with Sami!!!Rafe promises Sami they will be together!!! What happened happened to Rafe breaks up with Sami and lock,stock,and barrel EJ/Sami?!!!

Although I do like the fact that Rafe and Nicole are still friends,he confides in her.Looking forward to seeing Rafe/Nicole not so much Rafe/Sami.

Rafe Breaks up with Sami
lysie
Dec 21 2012, 12:09 AM
I'll take that as a no.
LOL Bring on the filters.

Spoilers for the week of December 31st
tomsawyer
Dec 21 2012, 01:42 AM
Daysdegrassi
Dec 20 2012, 11:01 PM
tomsawyer
Dec 20 2012, 07:13 PM
According to next week's SOD article, Sami can have Rafe if she's willing to stop making goo goo eyes at EJ.
Except Rafe tells Sami he is done with her, like Lucas did before, so no, she cannot have Rafe.
Right, but the article also says the reasons that Rafe "breaks up" (again, WTF?) with Sami are because he saw a close moment between Ejami and because Sami is unwilling to make a commitment to him. I know most folks assume that Sami really wants Rafe, not EJ, because it's Tomlin writing the story. And that may very well turn out to be right. But at the moment, that's not what's happening on-screen. It's pretty clear that if Sami wanted to be with either just Rafe or EJ right now, she could be. All she needs to do is stop making goo goo eyes at the other one and commit. She's not choosing to do that, so it looks like Sami is genuinely torn at the moment.
I don't see torn.I see having her cake and eating it too.It seems to me she is figuring out how to have both not how to choose.What is so hard.She loves/wants one or the other.She has "interacted" with both enough to have a basis for comparison.JUST PICK SOMEONE SO WE CAN ALL MOVE ON!!!!!!

Lysie,is it the exclamation points that you abhor? Sorry,cannot help it.I am so sick of Sami being torn between Rafe and EJ.

Friday, December 21st Daily Discussion
I cannot believe I am posting these words but I am looking forward to seeing Chad's scenes with Nicole and Abigail.He is snarky but nice with Nicole and funny but extremely supportive of Abby dealing with the loss of her father,more so than her own mother.Chad really sounds good in these scenes.

Rafe Breaks up with Sami
camera shy
Dec 20 2012, 08:52 PM
If they were actually going lock, stock and barrel with Ejami then Sami would tell Rafe she chooses EJ and they'd go on from there and Rafe wouldn't still be in the picture. But from the preview we have EJ and Sami getting a lot of story, but the big question is "Does Sami still have feelings for Rafe or is EJ the man for her?" That question could have been resolved by now and Ejami could be kicking in for the new year, but look what we're getting.
Well what was the purpose of the "lock,stock,and barrel"quote from K.Corday in the article a couple of months ago? People for/against EJ/Sami remember statements like that.When is it supposed to happen?Even if it is only going to be for six months or so, get on with it,put Sami and EJ together so we can stop waiting for the other shoe to drop.If you are not going with it,stop misleading/lying to viewers to manipulate them.

Rafe Breaks up with Sami
I didn't read it as Rafe "breaking up" with Sami.Sami keeps sending signals to Rafe and EJ.They are not together or dating so why is she asking Rafe why he is distant.I think he is explaining why he is distant and when she indicates she cannot decide between them,he lets her know he is not going to play that game.If she can't decide,he is out,therefore,she has no need to question why he is distancing himself from her.Rafe is beginning to think like Lucas.He loves Sami but he is not going to play her game of keeping him and Ej on a string.I really hope this is the end,atleast for now, of the triangle involving these three,and they do the lock,stock,and barrel EJ/Sami.I wouldn't mind a Nicole,Eric,Rafe triangle.I would love to see Rafe and Nicole v Sami and EJ after Will and Gabi's bady is born and Lucas is also in the mix with Sonny,Will,Justin,and Adrienne.
The title of the article is misleading.

John Catches Brady and Kristen
My mind boggled at the thought of John seeing them,Brady seeing John,John leaving,and Brady chasing John.I am looking forward to seeing how this plays out.Can't wait to see what Kristin says and does when this happens.