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Monday, August 28, 2017 Episode Discussion
I have been meaning to mention the writing for Theo.Theo sees a photograph of Chad with a knife in his hands near a man who was murdered but believes Chad is innocent.His father is arrested based on the word of criminal currently on the run but Theo has doubts about whether his father is innocent.Ridiculous.

Spoilers for Week of September 11
I hope the Eli spoiler is not a prelude to him becoming another addition to SPD.They already have enough members covering up the crimes of family and friends.I don't want Roman back as commissioner either.I wish they had allowed Raines to remain a person of integrity.

Monday, August 28, 2017 Episode Discussion
Aquamarine
Aug 28 2017, 08:16 PM
The Hattie and Bonnie scenes were somewhat amusing. But, they are starting to get on my nerves.

Maggie and Victor supporting Justin and Adrienne's relationship was odd. Victor must be wondering what is wrong with the men in his family.... Brady and Justin, why would they want the women they have.

The whole Raines story is very underwhelming. But I was surprised that he admitted to having Abby run down to Myron. Was he taping him?

The show was rather boring. :yawnz:
I wonder if its boring because having read the spoilers and social media threads you know what is going to happen weeks before it is shown on screen.The Abe/Raines twist and Anjelica's death might be better received if you don't already know what is going to happen.

Monday, August 28, 2017 Episode Discussion
lysie
Aug 28 2017, 06:22 PM
BeeBee
Aug 28 2017, 06:15 PM
Rosebud
Aug 28 2017, 06:03 PM

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Perhaps they just decided to go to be early.It does happen.Especially when one has had a long work day and perhaps has an early shift the next day.
In addition to his behavior when he first arrived in Salem,I have a vague impression that JJ has bent the rules before and since he became a police officer.I don't really remember the stories but it seems to me in the year or two he has been on the force JJ has followed in the tradition of Salem police officers breaking the rules when it comes to family and friends.
It was pretty clearly late. That's why it was weird that Rope were at the station. There really should have been a mention about Club TBD being closed, but I mean...it was nighttime.
I don't recall seeing any other police staff.Makes sense that Hope and Rafe would stay late so there weren't many officers around to see them removing a suspect from his cell to interview him especially given Hope's long standing friendship with Abe.
While watching the scenes of Raines and Myron I just assumed TBD was closed which made it weird to me that Lani said she was stopping by for a drink.Also wondering why Myron,who I thought was strictly and IT guy, would be there while the club was closed.Who is actually running TBD now that Dario is on the run? Is TBD even operating?

Monday, August 28, 2017 Episode Discussion
Rosebud
Aug 28 2017, 06:03 PM
BeeBee
Aug 28 2017, 05:44 PM
Rosebud
Aug 28 2017, 02:34 PM
Why are Lani and JJ in bed while everyone else is walking around town or up chatting at the mansion? Wouldn't old Vic be in bed by now? And I love how Valerie randomly just happened to run into Eli at HTS to discuss Abe.

Whose idea was this? Eli's? Or Abe's? Rafe said Eli told him there was no other way to take down Raines, as though he came up with it and forced them all to do it, then Abe said it was all his idea. :shrug:

Why isn't JJ a "fan" of Eli? And I LOL at JJ telling Lani that they should investigate on their own and she said Raines said to stay away and if they didn't it would be breaking the rules... then JJ says that never stopped him before. :blulaugh: He acts like he's been a cop for decades not like a year or so. :rolleyes:
I assumed Lani and JJ were in bed because they had just had sex.
I thought JJ's comment about following the rules referred to his behavior when he first arrived in Salem.
Then they should have shown them making out.

I don't think JJ was thinking about his pot smokin' days. He never talks about that, and he's been totally straight and narrow and all about being a cop. This isn't the first time he's acted like he's been a cop for a long time.
Perhaps they just decided to go to be early.It does happen.Especially when one has had a long work day and perhaps has an early shift the next day.
In addition to his behavior when he first arrived in Salem,I have a vague impression that JJ has bent the rules before and since he became a police officer.I don't really remember the stories but it seems to me in the year or two he has been on the force JJ has followed in the tradition of Salem police officers breaking the rules when it comes to family and friends.

Monday, August 28, 2017 Episode Discussion
nikemi
Aug 28 2017, 11:34 AM
Lovejm
Aug 28 2017, 11:32 AM
nikemi
Aug 28 2017, 11:31 AM

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I like Eli too. I just don't know what to do with those three to spice it up.
I think Lani is the weak link here, she doesn't really work with either guy.
I like the writing for Lani and Eli.They started on the wrong note when Lani tried to talk Eli to cut his mother some slack and Eli pushed back.They developed a better relationship when he helped her while she was going through withdrawl after ingesting Halo.They coasted during the time on the island after having gone to Greece then he gave her the opportunity to work an investigation with the FBI which has led to their current conflict which will likely be resolved now that Lani seems to be aware that the real target was Raines.I really liked the way her police instincts kicked in when she saw Raise with Myron and Raines reaction to her being at the club.
I also don't have a problem with the writing for JJ and Lani.They started out as friends and partners then lovers before Lani left Salem.They reconnected when drunk JJ had sex with Lani in Miami while Lani was unaware that JJ was so drunk he did not recall the sex which created a problem between them as well as between JJ and Gabi.Lani and JJ worked out that problem becoming friends and partners again as well as lovers again.
I also like the potential for conflicts as well as more story for Abe,Jennifer, and Valerie if Lani moves from JJ to Eli given the relationship between Abe and Valerie,Abe and Jennifer,and Valerie and Jennifer.
Every couple is not going to be a super couple.For me,JJ and Lani are a conventional down to earth believable couple.

Monday, August 28, 2017 Episode Discussion
Rosebud
Aug 28 2017, 02:34 PM
Why are Lani and JJ in bed while everyone else is walking around town or up chatting at the mansion? Wouldn't old Vic be in bed by now? And I love how Valerie randomly just happened to run into Eli at HTS to discuss Abe.

Whose idea was this? Eli's? Or Abe's? Rafe said Eli told him there was no other way to take down Raines, as though he came up with it and forced them all to do it, then Abe said it was all his idea. :shrug:

Why isn't JJ a "fan" of Eli? And I LOL at JJ telling Lani that they should investigate on their own and she said Raines said to stay away and if they didn't it would be breaking the rules... then JJ says that never stopped him before. :blulaugh: He acts like he's been a cop for decades not like a year or so. :rolleyes:
I assumed Lani and JJ were in bed because they had just had sex.
I thought JJ's comment about following the rules referred to his behavior when he first arrived in Salem.

Thursday, August 24, 2017 Episode Discussion
clubkylie
Aug 24 2017, 08:23 PM
Really trying to make sense of this Lucas/Bondrienne thing. On one hand, this is an exaggerated reality where two unrelated women are quite literally identical. Could this happen in the real world?

However, then I think about twins and I would have to agree that yes, it would in fact be rape if one twin was to deceive the other's partner into having sex with them.

But then on yet another hand, as a guy I find it hard to compare female rape to male rape. A woman is being entered as opposed to the man doing the entering. I don't see those as equal violations, and think it is worse and more obtrusive to the woman.

However, then I read wikipedia (so reputable, I know) HERE and now I'm even more confounded. What Ava did to Steve, and what Sami did to Austin - that was rape plain and simple. Steve was forced and Austin was drugged. Lucas however was the one who initiated sex and drank himself stupid by his own volition. Bonnie did not set out to sleep with him.

And yet, she did. She had sex with Lucas knowing full well he was drunk and thought she was Adrienne.

I think this would make for a very high-profile court case.
The issues you raised about the Lucas/Bonnie sex are part of the reason I am not really bothered by the sex even though it might fall within the legal definition of rape.
While I don't condone blackmail,embezzlement,police corruption,assault and battery,kidnapping,rape,murder,or crime in general,I don't always have a problem with it in my entertainment.I rooted for Don Corleone,Sonny,and Michaeal in the Godfather even though they were fine with bribery,boot legging,drug dealing,extortion,serious assaults,and murder.I want some outrageous behavior in novels,movies,and soaps.
I don't hate Bonnie,Hattie,and Anjelica for what they did.I don't want Nicole to go to prison or lose custody of Holly or go to prison even though she attacked Deimos with the knife causing the struggle which resulted in his death.I didn't even want Joey to go to prison for killing Ava despite the fact that he killed her while she was on her sick bed in the hospital.I have enough real life in my real life.I want escapism in my entertainment.
I am not attempting to be dismissive of those who have a different opinion.I am just explaining my own.We all have the right to our opinions and feelings about what we see so I hope my comments are not taken as attacking anyone.

Monday, August 21, 2017 Episode Discussion
I also don't understand why the writers chose to have Abby reassure Chad she had not had sex with Dario when Chad could not reciprocate.He still tried to have sex with Gabi after Gabi got upset about him having Abby's ring in his pocket while he and Gabi were preparing the share the same bed Chad shared with Abby.
I hate BF's stuttering as Chad.It has almost reached the level of hatred I had for CM's smirking while playing Will.I didn't like the scenes between Chad and Abby.For me they did not convey soulmates re-uniting.Both seemed to be playing what should have been a truly romantic moment for laughs.BF 's smile seemed to indicate he was almost sneering at the writing for him and Abby.

Monday, August 21, 2017 Episode Discussion
I wonder about the writing for Brady.He could not wait to get to the police station to accuse Eric of murder but appears to have no problem with stopping Nicole from confessing even though I don't believe he knew that Sonny and Chad had been released.

Wednesday, August 16, 2017 Episode Discussion
Amazee-Dayzee
Aug 17 2017, 03:35 PM
BeeBee
Aug 17 2017, 10:30 AM
Why would the show make Raines the partner? They need someone to head the SPD.Who will replace him? Hope??? Rafe??? Lani??? JJ???
ELi??? Are they are to demote Abe or drag Roman from the pub? Are they going to replace him with John who will have all the conflicts that Roman had during his tenure? I think it would be a mistake to make Raines the partner.Better to make Dario a liar about having a partner.
I must admit I loved it when Valerie threw the necklace and earrings on the floor.
I really hope that they bring in a new character but then that character would end up being compromised soon enough after he became the head. Just goes to show that you can never have a by-the-book cop character on the show because if there is one, he has to be evil. If its Hope or Rafe, I'll be pissed since Hope murdered Stefano and Rafe covered it up but even if the town doesn't know that, they still know she shot what they would assume was an infirm man. I can't by JJ as a cop. Lani needs a few more years on the show but I do get some Olivia Benson vibes from her.

Most likely it will be Roman. He'll do double-duty. I wouldn't mind if it was Eli, but I don't think he would want to jump ship from the FBI.
The guy playing Raines is decent and for now not related to or dating anyone in Salem..Keep him instead of looking for another actor to head SPD or putting someone in change who will have a built in conflict of interest.

What do you think so far?
Murder mystery,Abe arrested,Chad/Sonny released from jail,dopplegangers out,counterparts in an asylum/jail,soulmates reunited,brothers
in love with the same woman.I ought to be excited but I fall asleep during the show.

Wednesday, August 16, 2017 Episode Discussion
Why would the show make Raines the partner? They need someone to head the SPD.Who will replace him? Hope??? Rafe??? Lani??? JJ???
ELi??? Are they are to demote Abe or drag Roman from the pub? Are they going to replace him with John who will have all the conflicts that Roman had during his tenure? I think it would be a mistake to make Raines the partner.Better to make Dario a liar about having a partner.
I must admit I loved it when Valerie threw the necklace and earrings on the floor.

Spoilers for the Week of August 28
nananana7
Aug 16 2017, 09:17 PM
lysie
Aug 16 2017, 09:10 PM
nananana7
Aug 16 2017, 09:09 PM

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Maggie knows Bonnie's perfume? 12 years later?


An old transcript mentioned Maggie commenting how she didn't like Bonnie's perfume, but as you say, that was a long time ago.

Personally I'd like to forget Bonnie/Mickey ever happened.
Given that Bonnie has apparently been in prison several years and that prison is not likely awash in perfume,its possible her taste in perfume has not changed.

Monday, July 31st Episode Discussion
I agree the flashback of the crash was better than the crash.Interesting that Dario was frantic at Abby being struck after being the first to run apparently without a second thought of Abby as soon as he saw the car coming.Agree they should have had the vehicle hit Abby as soon as she pushed Chad although I could accept that Abby's first thought was to save Chad then being frozen in shock as she saw the car nearing.I also thought it was stupid that the paramedic appeared before the police and that the paramedic attempted to treat Chad while unconscious Abby who had been struck by the car was just left laying on the gurney instead of being rushed toward the ambulance immediately.
The thing I hate most is I felt absolutely nothing at Chad's anguish and even less about Abby's situation.