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Interesting/Spoilerish Tweets, Week of Sept 23
Rosebud
Sep 28 2013, 05:18 PM
thepadange
Sep 28 2013, 10:02 AM
Rosebud
Sep 27 2013, 09:23 AM
Team WilSon
Sep 27 2013, 07:20 AM
Drake Hogestyn: Took going all the way to Minneapolis but...finally together! @DeidreHall @daysbetterliving pic.twitter.com/aqPxObKpQW
https://twitter.com/DrakeHogestyn/status/383565927515553793

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So sad that this show has destroyed one of the most enduring couples on Days. For what? Kristen and Brady??? What utter rubbish. :flipoff:
There was no need to destroy Jarlena (or John as the character) for Brady/Kristen or any other couple for that matter. These two things have nothing to do with each other. And it's not the reason TPTB did it.
It was their business and/or writing choice.
I disagree. How could it have had nothing to do with Brady and Kristen? Of course it was a writing choice. They could have written a story with Kristen coming back to get revenge on John and Marlena which could have made John and Marlena stronger in the end, and Brady wouldn't have had to be involved. But they focused on Brady and Kristen and at every turn Brady's conflict was at the center of the story and that was John and Marlena trying to destroy his happiness with Kristen. They had to destroy John in order to create conflict for Brady and Kristen, and for Kristen to come to a new point. john was simply a plot point. Now they are using Marlena for continued conflict for the "lovebirds", only she is really only a bystander, with Eric now the focus of their story. John and Marlena's destruction was integral to propping up this so called forbidden romance.
I agree with you that they did use John as a plot point and destroyed Jarlena as a couple in the process. The question is did they have to do this for Bristen to exist? I don't think so. They still could have written John and Marlena working together against Bristen all along and become stronger in the end as you are saying. The way they've chosen wasn't definitely the only way to go. There are numerous other ways to create conflicts. I think TPTB care more about saving money and show's ratings as about any of the couples. If they see they could save money by letting one of their main actors off contract and know the ratings won't suffer too much they'll just do it. Brady/ Kristen... who?

BTW I don't agree that they are somehow propping Bristen (Propping is what they do with Danifer every single episode they are on). Sorry, but I don't see writing Kristen as constantly scheeming or planning to leave Brady at the altar for six months or this disgusting Eric/Kristen storyline as propping Bristen. On the contrary, most of the writing choices for them were quite destructive and definitely did no favours for the pairing. The main thing what makes me care about Bristen is this great great chemistry ED and EM share. Writing? Not so much.

I have to agree that the storyline(s) we are talking about focuses mainly on Kristen. She is front and center. I think this could have something to do with how they managed to get ED back. They had an idea to bring back the character but I guess they also had to work it out thoroughly in order to present it to TPTB at Sony. I don't think Sony would have terminated her contract for the s/l like they gave NB when she returned.

Interesting/Spoilerish Tweets, Week of Sept 23
Rosebud
Sep 27 2013, 09:23 AM
Team WilSon
Sep 27 2013, 07:20 AM
Drake Hogestyn: Took going all the way to Minneapolis but...finally together! @DeidreHall @daysbetterliving pic.twitter.com/aqPxObKpQW
https://twitter.com/DrakeHogestyn/status/383565927515553793

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:wub:
So sad that this show has destroyed one of the most enduring couples on Days. For what? Kristen and Brady??? What utter rubbish. :flipoff:
There was no need to destroy Jarlena (or John as the character) for Brady/Kristen or any other couple for that matter. These two things have nothing to do with each other. And it's not the reason TPTB did it.
It was their business and/or writing choice.

Friday, September 27th Daily Discussion
IHeartSoaps
Sep 27 2013, 03:38 PM
AngelOB
Sep 27 2013, 03:27 PM
I really enjoyed today's episode. Chandler must have been hoarse after his scenes with Blake and Camila. There can be no doubt that with that set of lungs, Will is Lucas and Sami's son lol. I'm still siding on Will with this one, even though some of his comments could definitely be taken as being controlling of Gabi. At the end of the day, nobody is forcing her to live in the apartment that Sonny paid for, if she doesn't like getting the 3rd degree from Will she can just move on in to....well wherever I honestly don't care, just so long as she leaves A.G. with WilSon.

Eric totally had a look that he put 2 and 2 together during Brady's declaration to Kristen (I really thought her declaration to him was really sweet, and would appreciate it if Days would actually show us Brady making funny faces while he shaves....in a towel). I haven't been keeping up with spoilers so I'm sure it's just a typical Friday cliffhanger fakeout, but Greg V really excels at the angsty, torment facial expressions so I don't mind.

EJ was so fun today continuing on with his theme from yesterday of getting in people's heads and messing with them lol. It started with Chad and strong-arming him into moving back into the DiMansion. Poor Chad didn't stand a chance against his brother's machinations. Today he chose to mess with Nicole and again rub the fact that she can't have Father Eric in her face. I love the smiles he's been sporting lately while doing this kind of stuff. It's what he used to do with Sami way back in the day, but since he no longer has an interest in tormenting her (well at least not in the playing mind games kind of way) he has to find new people to play that particular game with. He's been so focused on getting Sami out of the slammer that he'd sort of put his naughty boy inclinations on the back burner, but those inclinations have definitely come out to play the past 2 days. He was even getting in on messing with Kristen and the fact that she was hiding something, but she cut a little too deeply with her awareness of the Stefano situation and EJ lost his appetite to tease her. I liked that shift in balance in him today. The impish grin of delight at the idea of making people squirm, only to have his feet held to the fire by Kristen and losing the will to continue stirring the hornets nest.
I am going to miss EJ and Kristen scenes.
I'm going to miss her scenes with anyone except those damn flashbacks.

Friday, September 27th Daily Discussion
blueskies
Sep 27 2013, 08:21 PM
Kristen and Brady :wub:
Finally finally finally they wrote a short but quite decent dialogue for Bristen about feelings. I'm hoping we'll get some continuation from Brady's perspective on Monday.
IMO Days' writers should do this far more often, and for all the couples on the show.

Richard Bloore made "Days" return today, 9/24
blueskies
Sep 25 2013, 10:27 AM
Does he get any input on hairstyle? B/c there are a few I'd like to see gone forever.
BTW does somebody know when LK's husbands hair and make-up "will make their debut" on Days? LOL. If I recall correctly, changes in Wardrobe and Hair and Make-up departments were made at a similar time.

Daytime Royalty Interview with Eileen Davidson
Yoryla
Sep 23 2013, 01:29 PM
thepadange
Sep 23 2013, 09:42 AM
Yoryla
Sep 23 2013, 06:59 AM
I have to laugh at the notion that the Kristen/Eric thing somehow "ruined" the character. No, it didn't. Firstly, it is exactly something Kristen would do. And as has been said multiple times, these characters have done far worse things and at equally bad things, and still have continued on with the show for multiple years (EJ, Nicole, Sami, Victor, Stefano, Tony/Andre, etc.) So yeah, I'm gonna say it doesn't matter. And had ED stayed, they would have surely been able to let go of the storyline at some point. I do think ED was shocked when she first learned about the Eric thing (she actually said as much on her Twitter page) but I do not believe that's the reason why she quit.
By saying it "did unnecessary harm to the character" I definitely didn't mean the s/l made the character irredeemable or that it was written into the corner or ruined to no point of return :). At least not in my eyes. The character was and is viable after all that. However, I think the s/l didn't make much sense and wasn't that much compelling or dramatic for that matter and they easily could have gone "milder" and more "human" with all that.
Yes, indeed. Firstly, I didn't mean to direct this to you, it was more of a universal notion as a response to some people's comments. Secondly, I fully understand what you mean, and yes, I agree on that after she did the deed there was great momentum but it kind of fizzled after she decided not to show the video at the school reception. She agreed to be with Brady, which was fine in itself but they should have quickened the pace at that point. And also the pregnancy scare was a TOTALLY useless, and to many annoying detour since she ended up not being pregnant. I was astounded they did that, because someone had to know how much it would annoy the fans to see her toy for a week with the idea of being pregnant and then she's just...not. That was a weird detour imo, and the show should have either passed on it completely or then just make her pregnant (not what I wanted though). And now the storyline's kind of shifted to Nicole and Marlena's half-crazy antics, which just seem to make them look desperate, clumsy, meddling and - as Kristen would put it - losers (lol).

The best way for a story like this to work is to have Kristen be the underdog, and to let us see her slow descent into madness, her talking to herself and planning and plotting. That's what she did right after Brady dumped her before, and that's why that storyline was so compelling and why May was such a good month. Kristen was in her element. But now it's kind of a tad too sugary sweet, until of course she realizes something's up. That's why I'm waiting SO much for the coming scenes this October & November. :chee: :popcorn:
Yeah, it was really something unusual in how this particular pregnancy idea was handled. One of my assumptions was maybe they planned the pregnancy but after it was sure that Eileen won't re-sign her contract they chose another way to go. (It was taped about mid-April). But it's also possible that they simply wanted to tease the audience. I that case, as I've said somewhere I would have prefered if Eric/Kristen "sex" would be revealed as fake (staged so it could be taped) down the road. Now with that pregnancy scare they made it impossible. Even with the "fake" sex they could have the same effect they are having now. If they wanted some shocking visuals for ratings, they could have dressed Kristen as sister Mary Moira and have a priest and a nun "fake" making out. Maybe it's just me but I can't get into the logic "I want to destroy somebody so I have to have sex with his/her priest son", why not hire a prostitute then? In one of her last interviews ED said that her characters on Days "have a very short shelf life" and it was another big reason to leave Days. Even if we may not think so, really what could Kristen do down the road that would be more shocking than this? That's why I dislike this particular storyline even more.

As for what's going on now, I'm quite OK with Bristen 2.0. I know I'm in a minority, but I really like this softer and vulnerable side of Kristen and I'm enjoying ED and EM in their scenes. If Brady just could change his attitude from "I know her better than anybody else: she has changed and is perfect" to "she really has some very seriuos issues and needs (professional?) help, but it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve love and understanding", I would be happy with it til it lasts ;) .




Monday, Sept. 23rd Daily Discussion
camera shy
Sep 23 2013, 03:53 PM
In that great, big mansion, did Bristen really have to check into a hotel to give Sami and EJ their privacy? Oh that's right, Salemites like to do the deed in the living room where any man, woman or child can walk in on them and risk ruining their eyesight.
I was just wondering how did they manage to take their DiMera bedroom bed (golden pillows inclusive) into the hotel.

Amanda Corday to appear on "Days" in October...
The Room Stops
Sep 24 2013, 12:12 AM
Miles! Welcome back, Miles Malloy!

Ah, when they somebody say John would get super-jealous back in 2000, I kept hoping that it would be Miles making him jealous (because he obviously found Marlena attractive, and he was sort of her boss, plus he was hot), but then they made it stupid Winston instead.

Can he please be coming back for Marlena? Please show, please? It'd be a good way to bring back John eventually, if Marlena's flirting with somebody new and then John returns, ready to woo her back.
Isn't he the one who offers (or has something to do with) a new job for Nicole?

Daytime Royalty Interview with Eileen Davidson
Yoryla
Sep 23 2013, 06:59 AM
I have to laugh at the notion that the Kristen/Eric thing somehow "ruined" the character. No, it didn't. Firstly, it is exactly something Kristen would do. And as has been said multiple times, these characters have done far worse things and at equally bad things, and still have continued on with the show for multiple years (EJ, Nicole, Sami, Victor, Stefano, Tony/Andre, etc.) So yeah, I'm gonna say it doesn't matter. And had ED stayed, they would have surely been able to let go of the storyline at some point. I do think ED was shocked when she first learned about the Eric thing (she actually said as much on her Twitter page) but I do not believe that's the reason why she quit.
By saying it "did unnecessary harm to the character" I definitely didn't mean the s/l made the character irredeemable or that it was written into the corner or ruined to no point of return :). At least not in my eyes. The character was and is viable after all that. However, I think the s/l didn't make much sense and wasn't that much compelling or dramatic for that matter and they easily could have gone "milder" and more "human" with all that.

Daytime Royalty Interview with Eileen Davidson
Graceland
Sep 23 2013, 02:14 AM
She said a month ago that Kristen was not down and out, and that she could return, and that Kristen's story was not done when she left, that she didn't know how they were going to wrap it up, AND, that there was a person cast that looked like her, insinuating that this person could have something to do with the rest of the storyline, but wasn't sure. She's holding back a lot here. Eric is doing the same too.

Which one of Brady's fiances was hit by a car?
This time it doesn't sound like that or does it? Either she didn't know then how her story will be wrapped up and now she knows (from her co-stars, maybe?), hence the differences, or TPTB told everyone to lie about the upcoming storylines.
In general, I also have a problem to believe when Ari is telling Eric is still a priest or Shawn saying he is still helping Eric to find out what's happened in the hotel. Either they are lying or nothing is happening on the show :shrug: which is scary.

Arianna Hernandez was hit by the car.

Daytime Royalty Interview with Eileen Davidson
Graceland
Sep 23 2013, 02:03 AM
thepadange
Sep 23 2013, 01:45 AM
Thanks for the interview.
From this and some other interviews and tweets as well I'm getting an impression that playing black/evil characters is not what Eileen's really enjoying. She often describes the soft/loving/vulnerable side of the character as the most interesting one.
I suppose, the Kristen/Eric storyline which had began right before they asked her if she will re-sign her contract was not the one to motivate her to stay on the show.
She's actually said the opposite. She said that she started off playing bad girls, and she prefers playing them. She also said that she's more like Kristen than Ashley Abbott. She was tired of playing the constant victim.

What made Eileen exit was the workload, which she actually asked for, which turned out to be it her undoing, WHICH, ironically, was what made her exit the first time.

She already said that doing short story arcs on Days, which was offered, is a possibility in the future. She was just exhausted.

Y&R is a mess right now. Days gave her the best material. Actors would kill to be given that kind of material, that opportunity, after so many years in the business, and getting to return to a character so many years later. She knows this, and I'm sure appreciates it. I don't think she knew what she was getting herself into when she signed on. Great material, but very demanding compared to her stint on Y&R, and for less money.

The hard part is now over, explaining Kristen's absence, reintroducing her to a new generation of viewers. That was a HUGE undertaking. After so many years they could have just given up on the idea of bringing Kristen back. It started to be a given that the character would probably never return, so just get over the idea. Now that it did, it's easier to bring her back. It's sort of like Days never winning the Emmy. Once it happens, voters see that it's no longer an automatic loser, no longer a reason not to vote for it. The cycle has be broken on both fronts.
Yes, I do remember her saying she is more like Kristen than Ashley but without her evil ways. And during one of the twitter sessions she said she likes playing bad and good at the same time. So I think her preference is "grey" (I guess, most of the actors prefer "grey" characters).
I didn't say the Kristen/Eric s/l was the reason she's quit, but Kristen, nearly out of the blue with a blowgun and that giant syringe,... :shrug: it looked a little bit (or a lot) childish or like a dark comedy except it wasn't. And it did some unnecessary damage to the character and her current pairing. This particular s/l was just to dark for me to enjoy it (JMO).

In general, I agree with you that most of the material was really very good and I also agree with all you've said about workload, pay etc. :) . But these are things you can change during the contract negotiations, can't you?

Daytime Royalty Interview with Arianne Zuker
Quote:
 
I donít even know whatís airing right now.

This sounds indifferent, bitter and depressing.

Daytime Royalty Interview with Eileen Davidson
Thanks for the interview.
From this and some other interviews and tweets as well I'm getting an impression that playing black/evil characters is not what Eileen's really enjoying. She often describes the soft/loving/vulnerable side of the character as the most interesting one.
I suppose, the Kristen/Eric storyline which had began right before they asked her if she will re-sign her contract was not the one to motivate her to stay on the show.

Daytime Royalty Interview with Eileen Davidson
blueskies
Sep 22 2013, 02:28 PM
Graceland
Sep 22 2013, 04:59 AM
Eric Martsolf talks about it in the new CBS Soaps In Depth. This is going to be an over-the-top finale!!!
i bought it just for his interview, & it does sound like it will be good! I also think he basically said (without saying) that Brady's going to be into drugs after Kristen leaves. Or at least that's how I read it. Granted I was hoping that's what would happen so perhaps I'm just reading what I want into it ;)

And I wasn't overly shocked that he had a hard time reconciling his own feelings regarding what he would have done in Brady's situation with what Brady did re:Kristen. But lets be honest, he's had plenty of background in this area playing a rather stupid man who believes whatever the women in his life tell him. And I still maintain Ethan was dumber by far.
Concerning Brady and drugs, I think, it sure happens.

Are there any hints about the "grand finale"? Because from ED's interview in this thread I got the feeling they may kill off the character via suicide. I am pretty sure I'm reading way too much into it because it's just a couple of sentences, but there is something a little bit different said about Kristen and her s/l from what she's told in her other latest interviews (namely, too much focus on her love for Brady). As Days' writers are trying to create some allusions, they may use their lake set if a pool set is not present this time. Kristen could even leave her bracelet there again. Very final scenes may be played by the look-a-like (Eva Swan) so it could later be revealed as real or fake depending on whether Days will ever manage to get Eileen back or not.

It's just my odd phantasies and I hope I'm wrong and, please, say me that I am ;) , because it's breaking my heart just thinking about it :'(
As most are saying it doesn't look like ED will return, I just don't want my favorite soap character dead.

Interesting/Spoilerish Tweets, Week of Sept 9
Eileen Davidson@eileen_davidson

@mcc1067 @Moore5289Kasie @Ari_Zucker thank u so much for ur enthusiasm and love for Kristen and "days". Xo
https://twitter.com/eileen_davidson/status/377621064970280960


Tuesday September 10th Daily Discussion
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Tuesday September 10th Daily Discussion
blueskies
Sep 10 2013, 05:29 PM
Kristen bringing up that she can't have kids again makes me think she got a false read on that test.

edit: although if she did, that kid is going to have some serious issues given how much she drinks.
I guess we have to wait till Kristen sees the fertility doctor to know once and for all is she pregnant or not. And as the test was negative (false or not), there could be a WTD s/l there in case she is pregnant. Because now they are teasing the audience with this baby/mother theme. And no spoilers about that for the next week :shrug: Either nothing happens or it's a "secret" they are keeping under wraps.

Friday September 6th Daily Discussion
LovingDays
Sep 6 2013, 12:22 PM
can Bristen get out from the bed....are they going to stay in bed for the whole day
There was no reason to choose a bed scene for this kind of conversation. It's kinda trivializing. And there was no need for that flashback either. As if anybody could have forgotten what's happened watching the same flashbacks 4x each week for nearly three months.

Promo for the week of September 9th
I didn't realize this till now but I really miss Stefano/Kristen interactions.

Promo for the week of September 9th
http://www.nbc.com/days-of-our-lives/