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Suds Report — Is GL Cancelled?
I think we'd be more gleeful if someone at CBS finally woke up and realized Wheeler's vision for the show is not working. In the old days, P&G would have thrown an underperforming writer or producer team out the door, but the fact they've left Wheeler in charge just shows how much they don't give a shit.

As for Kreizman, he started out with a lot of promise and his early stories were pretty good. It's when he started playing Russian Roulette with the show's couples and creating ill-matched pairs that I started going "what the hell is this?"

Guiding Light, along with ATWT and Days, is my lineup (with occasional peeks at OLTL to check out Ron's handiwork). I can sympathize with people saying this isn't GL. Hopefully Grant's return does something.

SOD Confirms Berris Departure
lene
Nov 26 2008, 02:24 PM
sungrey
Nov 25 2008, 06:18 PM
What a fucking waste. Well, Rachel might as well be next because she certainly has no story now.

Nice job, Dena.
Oh please. Rachel got plenty of good stories before Blake was even on the show. I think Chelsea will be busy with Max. :rockon:
Like I said previously, Chelsea has no story now. ;)

ATWT: Three Characters to Return
Why Maddie? You didn't have story for Alex Chando and she was marvelous in the role.

I can see Lucy and Johnny returning, but Maddie?

SOD Confirms Berris Departure
Tripp
Nov 25 2008, 06:23 PM
sungrey
Nov 25 2008, 06:18 PM
What a fucking waste. Well, Rachel might as well be next because she certainly has no story now.

Nice job, Dena.
Haven't you heard? She and Darin Brooks will be the new supercouple of Days. You know, because people loved them so much the first time.

Please, I'm eating. :puke:

SOD Confirms Berris Departure
What a fucking waste. Well, Rachel might as well be next because she certainly has no story now.

Nice job, Dena.

Peter and Kristian take Pay Cut, Jay Back?
I don't know how successful it is, but Kristian does have a jewelry line she works on, and I know Peter's into music and other side projects. Ya, it's probably nowhere near the Days income, but I don't see either one of them as being extravagant spenders (especially given Peter's pro-green stance)...

SOD: December 2, 2008 Issue
Smart money is on David. Grant didn't come back without something else at that show changing.

If it's Ron, I will be pissed off beyond belief.

SOD: Days Gets a Pickup; Hall, Hogestyn Out!
I trust Gary Tomlin as a writer. I don't trust him as an executive producer. This show doesn't need a bloodbath (just for the sake of arguments) as much as it needs improved writing and a sharper focus. Too bad you've cut one limb off already with Drake and Deidre. You're not getting those viewers back.

Now as for growing the show in general, give us a sharper plan. Not more of Corday's bullshit.

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
And every scene will take place in a field! Music videos! Couples that don't make sense. Stories that leave you going "what da hell?"

Hey, if it works on GL... lol

SOD Confirming the DH'S are gone
Well, at least they're leaving together, that's all I can say.

What they're leaving behind is a show populated by a bunch of actors who can't emote their way into a paper bag, much less out of it... and talented veterans that are there as window dressing.

In short, Passions. Nice job, NBC. (Apologies to the Passions fans on the board. :) )

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
Amello
Nov 16 2008, 11:08 PM
sungrey
Nov 16 2008, 11:06 PM
Mason
Nov 16 2008, 04:36 PM
PhoenixRising05
Nov 16 2008, 04:32 PM
Right but my point is most feel much better with someone that has experience. Does that mean you ignore new blood? No. It's just that it's riskier then someone who knows the show.
JER knew the show and I don't think it could have gotten any worse than Melaswen, the Castle, Iraq, etc.

Sometimes you just have to take the risk. That's why daytime is in the state it's in now. The execs never want to take risks so they rely only on the same small circle of writers who write the same damn thing on every show.
And it's why people are calling for Carlivati's head on OLTL right now. Why, so Megan McCrappish can come in and undo what he wrote? So Lethal Laiman can come aboard and kill the momentum? Please, I'll take Carlivati any day of the week over another change.

As for Days, it's obvious something needs to be done. Jim Reilly's dead (not to sound callous, please don't think I am being that way) so you can't go back there. You could go forward, but with who??
Well since Gary Tomlin has saved the show before. Let him write. I mean he created Bitchy Bangs!!!
Amello, you just miss Melissa. You can see her on my... oh wait, you already watch that... ;)

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
ginababe
Nov 17 2008, 03:58 AM
sungrey
Nov 17 2008, 03:57 AM
This show is as good as dead. DEAD. DEAD.

I wish I wasn't saying this. I honestly don't. But this is truly the end. You just do not do something like this.
I'm sorry but Drake and Dee are NOT the be all and end all of DAYS, it survived before them it will and HAS survived after them.
I am not a John and Marlena fan. I am thinking of the big picture here. You do NOT release two of the Big Four and expect your numbers to rise. (Your budget will be relieved, but that's another story.)

This isn't a reinvention, this is assisted suicide. This show will be done in September 2010, courtesy of some really strange decisions. You really expect a lot of viewers to come back now? Hell, they'll stay away! And the rest of us that stick around and watch this show will wonder just what the hell are we watching.

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
This show is as good as dead. DEAD. DEAD.

I wish I wasn't saying this. I honestly don't. But this is truly the end. You just do not do something like this.

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
Mason
Nov 16 2008, 04:36 PM
PhoenixRising05
Nov 16 2008, 04:32 PM
Right but my point is most feel much better with someone that has experience. Does that mean you ignore new blood? No. It's just that it's riskier then someone who knows the show.
JER knew the show and I don't think it could have gotten any worse than Melaswen, the Castle, Iraq, etc.

Sometimes you just have to take the risk. That's why daytime is in the state it's in now. The execs never want to take risks so they rely only on the same small circle of writers who write the same damn thing on every show.
And it's why people are calling for Carlivati's head on OLTL right now. Why, so Megan McCrappish can come in and undo what he wrote? So Lethal Laiman can come aboard and kill the momentum? Please, I'll take Carlivati any day of the week over another change.

As for Days, it's obvious something needs to be done. Jim Reilly's dead (not to sound callous, please don't think I am being that way) so you can't go back there. You could go forward, but with who??

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
Y&RWorldTurner
Nov 15 2008, 06:30 PM
At this point, with all the budget cuts and popular actors being fired, DAYS needs to go all out with its storytelling. Either do something completely original and out there that gets a lot of buzz that makes DAYS the must buzzed about show in daytime again, or do something really gritty and disturbing.

And sadly, Higley is not the person for this type of thing...

Shows can survive the loss of popular actors, the story just has to be there. I seriously doubt in this climate that the story will be there though.
They tried that in 2003-04 and eventually had all of the fans throwing lunches, furniture, bats, sharp objects, etc., at the TV screens.

I will support Days as it goes down. I'm still in shock, though. This could end up really biting Days in the ass if the audience drops much more following Drake's exit.

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
I'd bet it's behind the scenes. And if they brought him back a second time then it would be just like South Park (Oh my God, they killed Kenny! You bastards!) :)

Deidre Hall & Drake Hogestyn FIRED!
I am at a loss for words.

Yes, you have to save money under the new budget guidelines, but this is not the way to do it. You could argue that most of the "Jarlena" fans have left anyway because they don't like "Jawn", but this puts the nail in the coffin. Those fans will never return. And the ones that were left are probably filing out the exits in a few months.

I am really beginning to wonder if this renewal was even worth it.

Updated Suds Report —CONFIRMED JARLENA OUT!
Ellie
Nov 14 2008, 02:45 PM
Thanks Nelson. Do you really think Melanie might be cut? She seems to be one of Dena's favorites.
More to the point, why would you cut her? I'm thinking salary, not likeability of the character. Molly can't be too expensive.

Bryan would be a huge mistake, I think... Stephen and Mary Beth not so much, because they could have the "happy ending"...

SOW: Nick is arrested
If they do nothing with the fact Nick's mother Jessica had a split personality, the whole story is a waste. Pure and simple.

DAYS: Why did Shawn and Belle get written out?
The end game should have been Shelle, because it was vital to the long-term foundation of the show. Bo and Hope's son and John and Marlena's daughter together would have set the stage for the next generation of Days.

As a big Shelle fan, let me just say I would have welcomed more Phillip and Chloe interference. There was more material left to play with everyone. Instead Brandon and Martha get the axe because Corday's too chicken-shit to threaten Shelle.

And there you have it. Shawn and Belle are gone, and I can't help but feel a HUGE void on the Days canvas.