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Revenge
I don't get why the writers are so afraid to make a major move. In its first season, Dynasty had its main character Blake Carrington kill (albeit accidentally, but still) his son's gay lover. It didn't have significant consequences for the character, but it was a bold move and it did directly lead to Joan Collins's Alexis being introduced the following season (and the rest is history). That was 1981. Why can't the writers of Revenge, in 2012, be a little more gutsy?

Revenge
Kenny
Feb 29 2012, 11:26 PM
Mason
Feb 29 2012, 11:07 PM
At least Daniel shot Tyler first and it wasn't in self-defense. That's the only thing that kept me from throwing my remote at the TV. But still, very lame.
I feel like that was just thrown in to keep people from being pissed about the Takeda twist.

I can just hear the writers: "Hey, let's have Tyler be the one who dies... because, you know, we can't allow anything of consequence to happen on this show, and we can't let the killer be one of our main characters because that might force us to move the plot along, so let's pin it on Takeda... and just incase people get pissed, let's write it so Daniel fires at least one shot so we can pretend like we have balls even though we have none."
You might be right about that.

It's very frustrating. I don't understand what the point of this plot is now. One peripheral character gets killed by another peripheral character -- so what? How is this going to affect the long-term story in any major way? I'm trying to stay optimistic, but it just keeps getting more difficult to do so.

Revenge
Kenny
Feb 29 2012, 11:05 PM
Mason
Feb 16 2012, 01:47 PM
Kenny
 
The Asian dude probably did it all.

Snore.

A guest star killing a guest star is not the direction I wanted this show to take.
If the killer ends up being Takeda or someone equally peripheral, then I'll happily hop on the backlash bandwagon.
Ready to hop on? ;)
LoL. That pissed me off. At least Daniel shot Tyler first and it wasn't in self-defense. That's the only thing that kept me from throwing my remote at the TV. But still, very lame.

Revenge
I don't understand ABC's thinking. You can't do all these pre-emptions and hiatuses with a show this serialized. Not in 2012!

Meanwhile, I was kind of underwhelmed by tonight's episode.

Daytime Royalty: Top 20 Posters
POSTER OF THE MONTH

:applause: L Y S I E :applause:

Winners list:
January - Lysie
February - Lysie


2009: Mason & Kenny
2010: Kenny
2011: Lysie






Top 20 Posters as of February 29, 2012.

Note:
1) Show personification based on the 20 longest running shows in daytime tv history.
2) Number in parenthesis is where they placed last month.



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Number 1(1): Kenny (45,478 posts +211)
-- Kenny is the DR's guiding light --




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Number 2(2): Mason (38,638 posts +201)
-- My world keeps on turning--



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Number 3(3): King (22,193 posts +42)
-- King hasn't been to General Hospital lately --



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Number 4(5): lysie (19,988 posts +759)
-- Lysie is enjoying the days of her life --



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Number 5(4): Rick (19,435 posts +85)
-- Rick is living his one life to the fullest--



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Number 6(6): Miss Rhi (19,141 posts +66)
-- Miss Rhi has no children yet--



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Number 7(7): PhoenixRising05 (16,098 posts +93)
-- Phoenix is young but hardly restless --



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Number 8(8): Drew (12,066 posts +111)
-- Drew is living for a better tomorrow --



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Number 9(10): Angie79 (11,999 posts +77)
-- Angie is on another world of awesomeness--



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Number 10(9): Mateo (11,970 posts +38)
-- Mateo is edging closer to a great night --



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Number 11(11): darraholic (11,773 posts +161)
-- darraholic has a great love for life --



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Number 12(12): Ellie (11,515 posts +298)
-- Ellie is bold and beautiful --



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Number 13(13): DrewHamilton (10,389 posts +199)
-- DrewH has no secret storms raging inside of him --



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Number 14(14): IMissAremid (10,127 posts +20)
-- IMissAremid may or may not need to see a doctor soon--



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Number 15(15): Zoe_Zeppelin (9,700 posts +350)
-- Zoe may be Ryan's hope --



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Number 16(17): LuvingLumi (9,557 posts +233)
-- LuvingLumi is a "luving" person--



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Number 17(16): Grandpa Hughes (9,384 posts +37)
-- Gramps has many passions...but we might not want to know what they are--



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Number 18(18): Matt (8,657 posts +88)
-- Matt has bright days ahead --



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Number 19(19): Manny (8,015 posts +0)
-- Manny should visit Santa Barbara --


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Number 20(21): SocRMum1 (7,849 posts +182)
-- SocRMum1 has never been to Somerset --




Bubbling up:
Number 21(22): Mitchapalooza (7,823 posts +649) -- Port Charles
Number 22(20): Casey (7,713 posts +18) -- Love is a Many Splendored Thing
Number 23(23): ladyofthelake (6,978 posts +22) -- Capitol
Number 24(24): Scott (6,883 posts +0)-- Dark Shadows
Number 25(25): JamesScott_19 (6,818 posts +156) -- Young Doctor Malone
Number 26(26): NavJLee8785 (6,571 posts +14) -- Hawkins Falls
Number 27(27): Tammy (6,297 posts +128)-- Valiant Lady
Number 28(28): Liz<3Days (6,199 posts +241) -- Where The Heart is
Number 29(29): Nubia (5,616 posts +11) -- From These Roots
Number 30(30): Dragonish1 (5,447 posts +139)-- Another Life




New to the poll this month: (none)

Dropped out of the poll over the last month: (none)

Biggest risers over the past month: Lysie, Angie79, LuvingLumi, SocRMum1, Mitchapalooza (+1)

Biggest fallouts over the past month: Casey (-2)

Getting close to making it into the poll: six, Paxton

Revenge
Kenny
Feb 29 2012, 12:52 PM
Unfortunately, the writers can't end the show after just one season, so they're going to do everything they can to drag it out and hope that the love triangles and legal dramas and such will keep us entertained in the meantime.
It's working for me, LoL.

I know this show isn't the greatest written on the air by any stretch of the imagination. I'm just thrilled to finally have an honest-to-goodness primetime soap again (as opposed to pseudo-soap posers like Desperate Housewives and others of its ilk). That being said, I'm genuinely enjoying Revenge.

True Blood: Alan Ball Steps Down as HW
As much as I love Alan Ball....True Blood isn't really a show I watch for the quality of the writing. Even though it's on HBO, I consider it more of a guilty pleasure. Not a big loss, IMO.

Knots Landing
The hostage episode in Season 2 isn't one of my favorites, but it does feature the great Laura/Abby "You are such a slut" scene in the kitchen.

Julie Harris returns in Season 3.

Gilmore Girls
DaveB_01
Feb 25 2012, 05:12 PM
Mason
Feb 25 2012, 04:57 PM
Speaking of that scene, I've always liked Chad Michael Murray as Tristan. The character was like Logan....except he was actually likable. And he had great chemistry with Alexis Bledel. I don't know if CMM chose to leave or if it was the writers' decision, but it's a shame he didn't stick around longer.
I think part of it was that he got the role of Lucas on One Tree Hill
But that was in 2001...nearly two years before One Tree Hill began. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it just seems very early.

Gilmore Girls
Speaking of that scene, I've always liked Chad Michael Murray as Tristan. The character was like Logan....except he was actually likable. And he had great chemistry with Alexis Bledel. I don't know if CMM chose to leave or if it was the writers' decision, but it's a shame he didn't stick around longer.

Knots Landing
Casey
Feb 18 2012, 05:43 PM
Well, maybe I'll feel differently if I end up re-watching the series again down the line. Lol. I just feel like he's such an ass to Laura, who clearly doesn't deserve it, but still puts up with it. Laura's actually becoming one of my favorite characters. She's much more of a reserved person compared to both Karen and Val (both of whom I also love), and is probably the one that I find the most interesting so far.
Oh, Richard is definitely a pathetic ass, for sure. But he's also one of the most fascinating characters throughout all 14 seasons of the show, I think, and his friendship with Karen is one of the show's most interesting relationships.

Laura is actually my favorite character. Constance McCashin is just perfection. The best actress on the show (after Julie Harris, of course). And when you have one character driven by her self-loathing (Laura) and one characterized by self-destructiveness (Richard) together, it's just great TV.

Knots Landing
Casey
Feb 18 2012, 02:57 PM
Well, I'm officially in love with this show. I just finished the first season and can't wait to see Donna Mills/Abby come on as I start the second. Every character on the canvas I enjoy watching, except probably for Richard Avery. What an ASS!
Yes, I hated Richard the first time I watched Knots Landing, too. It wasn't until my second or third run-through of the series that I came to appreciate what a great, compelling character he actually is. He's such a Willy Loman-esque loser, but John Pleshette is so good that he makes you (or at least me) feel kind of sorry for him in spite of his behavior. Richard's now one of my favorite KL characters.

Kenny and Ginger, on the other hand, are a complete waste of time and space.

Gilmore Girls
granolagirl
Feb 17 2012, 04:48 PM
Mason
Jun 27 2011, 11:30 AM
Oh my God. Every episode of this season should just be renamed "Logan Saves the Day, Part (Insert Number)". Enough already! This character actually makes me miss Dean and Jess!
I never understood why there wasn't more Marty.
Right? I don't get it either. Alexis Bledel had chemistry with that actor (unlike some of her actual love interests), and he was the kind of guy that I could actually see Rory being interested in.

Gilmore Girls
Helpless Romantic
Feb 17 2012, 04:34 PM
Mason
Feb 17 2012, 02:45 PM
I didn't care for the series finale at all. Way too self-indulgent on the part of the writers.

But at least Rory and Logan didn't end up together -- a major bright spot right there.
The last episode I watched Luke was still with Lorelai but am not sure who she ended up with?
It was Luke, in the end (which wouldn't have been my preference, but I digress).

Gilmore Girls
I didn't care for the series finale at all. Too self-indulgent on the part of the writers, I think. Too much "Rory is the greatest thing ever!" (I mean, that big party all for Rory? Really?) and "Luke and Lorelai are made for each other!" dialogue. The show, at its best, was more sophisticated than that. And Richard and Emily were practically treated as an afterthought.

But at least Rory and Logan didn't end up together -- a major bright spot right there.

Revenge
bstreis
Feb 16 2012, 01:25 PM
Having Daniel alive is not a great twist.
It could have been had the actual victim been someone that anyone (on the show or in the audience) cared about and whose death actually had some consequences for the show.

That being said, I'll wait and see how this plays out before crying too much foul. If the killer ends up being Takeda or someone equally peripheral, then I'll happily hop on the backlash bandwagon.

Revenge
Although I'm relieved the body isn't Daniel, I do agree that it should have been someone other than Tyler. I'm just hoping that the killer doesn't turn out to be Amanda. That would be lame and predictable. If the victim isn't a major character, then the killer needs to be.

Revenge
Ahhh....I LOVED tonight's episode! I was actually on the edge of my seat for the entire hour.

Seriously. Why can't any of the daytime soaps be even a fourth as suspenseful or exciting?

Even though I know Daniel dying would have carried far more dramatic weight, I can't be too upset at the outcome as I love Josh Bowman. I know there will definitely be some people that are disappointed, though.

Knots Landing
You should definitely go ahead and watch the first two seasons, even if the rest of KL never sees the light of day on DVD. They're just great. (.....Although the end of Season 2 will definitely make you want to keep watching.)

As for Falcon Crest, its second season was released, but it's only available via manufacture-on-demand on the WB website, I believe.

Knots Landing
Casey
Feb 11 2012, 01:25 PM
Does anyone else think that if the upcoming continuation of "Dallas" turns out to be successful that we might see a season three DVD release for "Knots"? Surely, the DVD sales of the older sets for "Dallas" will see a bump and maybe the WB will give Knots another chance. What do you guys think?
Sadly, I think that's pretty much our last hope at seeing further DVD releases of KL -- at least by WB.

My dream scenario would be for Shout!, which has acquired the rights to numerous television shows that had either been discontinued -- or never released at all -- and given them proper DVD sets, to do the same for KL. The show would probably get better treatment (in terms of extras/special features) from them than it would through WB, anyway.

Clearly, I haven't thought about this much at all, LoL.