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SOD: DAYS Olympic Story
Kevc1980
Jul 31 2008, 05:12 PM
I'm actually glad Jay and Kristen are going to be apart of this as well..Especially Jay..
I am, too. Philip just FITS that clothing style genre.................

SOD: Ava's Good Bye
CatherineEarnshaw
Jul 31 2008, 08:44 PM
shakers951
Jul 31 2008, 08:31 PM
If the negative comments about Drake's interview weren't so sophomoric (look it up in the dictionary morons) they would be pathetic. You people have very little comprehension of the English language if you cannot understand the clearly stated meaning of his comments regarding the two actresses he was referring to. Please try to remember that this is television fanatasy and not a wish for your pitiful lives. Jiggs, if you think he is creepy, why do you have a picture of him hugging your heroin???
Yet, you have no problem bashing a fellow board member. And if you are going to bash, I think you mean heroine, not heroin, which Days should give out if they want the audience to keep watching pathetic stories like John and Ava.
Actually, I don't think this was aimed at any one board member. And, her spelling error was previously and politely pointed out by another board member, and she replied politely.

SOD: Ava's Good Bye
shakers951
Jul 31 2008, 08:31 PM
If the negative comments about Drake's interview weren't so sophomoric (look it up in the dictionary morons) they would be pathetic. You people have very little comprehension of the English language if you cannot understand the clearly stated meaning of his comments regarding the two actresses he was referring to. Please try to remember that this is television fanatasy and not a wish for your pitiful lives. Jiggs, if you think he is creepy, why do you have a picture of him hugging your heroin???
:wub2:
Thank you for voicing what I wanted to. There are a lot of other things I want to voice, but then I'll be delving into territories I shouldn't........
Maybe it's time for my pain pill. :biggrin:

SOD: Ava's Good Bye
Jiggs
Jul 31 2008, 02:27 PM
Not only is Jawn creepy, but Drake is creepy too!!!!
Oh, man, where to even BEGIN with this comment...............................never mind. Gads. :huh:
I don't even know why I bother to even TRY to understand.....
OK, I'm done.

SOD: Ava's Good Bye
JohnandMarlenaFreak
Jul 31 2008, 02:06 PM
Tamara reminds him of his once tv daughter,well I and others have been saying she could pass for his daughter,nough said.


She really fell for John,ya his connections and bank account.
What the flip does the bank account have to do with it? The Vitalis weren't exactly Ma and Pa Kettle.

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
jules
Jul 31 2008, 07:57 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 31 2008, 07:48 PM
DolceDiMera
Jul 31 2008, 01:37 PM
I guess my problem with this is that mail volume does not reflect what the majority of fans want, because the majority of fans don't write in. I know I sure dont!
EXACTLY!!! I daresay most viewers don't post on boards, either. Or buy SOD.
Plus (and yes, I'll get reamed for it, but big deal).......I'm willing to bet the SAME people post, write, and call MULTIPLE times. I know there's someone who calls every day. ;)
Yes, on boards there are people who more than one username. There are people with more than one e-mail address. (Terry, anyone?). What's to keep someone really, er, 'passionate' from writing multiple letters, using the names of relatives and their addresses?
I think, if I was a power-that-be, letters than have one tone or negative letters would go in the trash. If a viewer can't get beyond one character or couple and are negative in their tone, do they really have the show's best interest at heart? Or their own agenda? I would think people who constantly harangue the studio without even considering the fact that these things take at least a month to execute don't have the show's best interest at heart. That's just my viewpoint. But again, bringing in my life as a teacher, the parent who barrages us about their kid without listening to all sides, or without hearing what the child can do to improve, or gets all bully and defensive...that parent doesn't get very far.
Whereas (back to TV), viewers who write in starting with a compliment on what they like then making positively toned suggestions.....viewers who acknowledge other characters....viewers who know how to criticize without being mean or snarky....I'll bet their views go a lot further.
Sure,people have the right to criticize and use a nasty mean tone BUT does that necessarily make it right?
OK, off the soapbox again.
All tptb need to do is look at the ratings to see what's working and what's not working.
Oh, now THERE'S an accurate measurement. Not.
OK, ratings are measured by a percentage. Ratings do not take into consideration folks who watch SoapNet. Folks who get cable DVR instead of Tivo. Folks who videotape. Folks who don't have a Nielson box. I've seen it mentioned several times, too, about quality shows that had low ratings. There have been wonderful posts and arguments against relying on the almighty ratings.
Yeah, the sun rises and sets on ratings, but it makes absolutely no sense to do so.

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
Tricky
Jul 31 2008, 07:41 PM
i dont think i am being unfair, just cause i dont watch something that upsets me, make me sad sometimes even has depressed me totally, i watch a soap for the happy factor if i dont watch cause its not giving entertainment i hope that dont make me unfair....they should write things better.
If you allow a TV show to get you depressed....well, let's just say you shouldn't. There is more to life.

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
Pearly_Moon
Jul 31 2008, 07:39 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 31 2008, 07:32 PM
If a fan doesn't even try to take all points and factors into consideration as much as possible, that fan is rather unfair.
WORD, WORD AND WORD!!!!

Lady, I hope your recupe is short and sweet. :tink:
Thanks, Pearly! I'm actually doing pretty well. The worst pain wasn't from the surgery....it was from the damn headache I got from caffeine withdrawal because I wasn't allowed to eat or drink since midnight. No coffee!!!!

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
Tricky
Jul 31 2008, 07:39 PM
Dr. Chip
Jul 31 2008, 07:36 PM
And what about all the outcry from fans, message-board posts, e-mails, etc., from people who sometimes aren't even watching the show? :-)
i do that if the show is not giving me what makes me happy and excited and interested to watch, i spend that hour writing out letters/emails/phone calls...i cant just stay silent and go away or i might never achieve what i need to see on dool.
What if what you want to see doesn't mesh with the majority or the best interest of the show?

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
Dr. Chip
Jul 31 2008, 07:36 PM
And what about all the outcry from fans, message-board posts, e-mails, etc., from people who sometimes aren't even watching the show? :-)
Don't even get me started on those people........................ :soapbox: :soapbox:

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
OneBadKitty
Jul 31 2008, 06:52 PM
Sindacco
Jul 31 2008, 06:47 PM
ges
Jul 31 2008, 02:07 PM
I think the actress that plays Nicole is the secret actress. She is in every freaking scene and storyline.
God she is annoying. And when is Nelson going to say something. Anything? Do you think at some point he has to address the breaking story that he put out there? One way or the other I want to know what happened. If this is how Higley saved her ass from the chopping block and got away with it, I will be pissed.
No she's not. You're just saying that because you're an Ejami fan and you feel threatened by her.
That's silly. Why would anyone, Ejami fan or otherwise, feel threatened by an actress they don't know? People spend way too much time overthinking this stuff.
Actually, no. It happens quite a bit. Some folks blur the lines between reality and fiction. I don't know if it pertains to this case, but it happens, and it's often very obvious. I'm sorry, but if I read criticism about a character or actress, I put more stock in the thoughts and opinion if it's not coming from someone who is a member of an "opposing" fanbase. That's how much fanbase wars have burned me. I just consider it good old fashioned objectivity.

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
Steve Frame
Jul 31 2008, 05:42 PM
This listening to the fans thing is what is the biggest thing wrong with soaps now.

Yes they do need to listen to fans to see what is working and what is not.

But in the end they need to have the brains enough to know they need to decided what is best for the show in the long run. They are now making way too many decisions by letting the fans hold the show hostage and changing things for them when they are not good for the show.

Irna Phillips listened to her fans and so did Irving Vendig and others, but they did not let them control the show.

When Irna killed off Kathy on GL in 1958, that was the first big fan outcry - millions of letters and phone calls stormed the studio in protest to bring her back or undo it somehow. Today a producer would change that but Irna and Lucy Ferri didn't. They addressed the situation that death happens in life and that it happens there too.

The same things happened when Sara Karr was killed on EON in the early 60's, and then the biggest outcry ever was when Jeff Baker was killed in a car crash on ATWT in 1962. That was termed by the newspapers - one of the first times that soap news was picked up by the mainstream press - they called it the car crash heard around the world or something to that affect.

Today the outcry would have caused those deaths to be undone - story rewritten and the like. But it didn't back then. They stood firm with the decision.

As Matt said many times fans think they know what they want and what is best for the show, but many fans have their own agenda at heart and not what is best for the show overall.
"Mr. Frame', this is excellent. Excellent!!!!

Dena Higley QUITS SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE
DolceDiMera
Jul 31 2008, 01:37 PM
I guess my problem with this is that mail volume does not reflect what the majority of fans want, because the majority of fans don't write in. I know I sure dont!
EXACTLY!!! I daresay most viewers don't post on boards, either. Or buy SOD.
Plus (and yes, I'll get reamed for it, but big deal).......I'm willing to bet the SAME people post, write, and call MULTIPLE times. I know there's someone who calls every day. ;)
Yes, on boards there are people who more than one username. There are people with more than one e-mail address. (Terry, anyone?). What's to keep someone really, er, 'passionate' from writing multiple letters, using the names of relatives and their addresses?
I think, if I was a power-that-be, letters than have one tone or negative letters would go in the trash. If a viewer can't get beyond one character or couple and are negative in their tone, do they really have the show's best interest at heart? Or their own agenda? I would think people who constantly harangue the studio without even considering the fact that these things take at least a month to execute don't have the show's best interest at heart. That's just my viewpoint. But again, bringing in my life as a teacher, the parent who barrages us about their kid without listening to all sides, or without hearing what the child can do to improve, or gets all bully and defensive...that parent doesn't get very far.
Whereas (back to TV), viewers who write in starting with a compliment on what they like then making positively toned suggestions.....viewers who acknowledge other characters....viewers who know how to criticize without being mean or snarky....I'll bet their views go a lot further.
Sure,people have the right to criticize and use a nasty mean tone BUT does that necessarily make it right?
OK, off the soapbox again.

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FanODays
Jul 31 2008, 01:17 PM
Dragonish1
Jul 31 2008, 12:59 PM
Oh, I think TPTB should listen to fans. After all this is a show, its entertainment....its not a work of art by one for one...its something that is supposed to hold your interest and if the show can not do that then it is a failure.... it dies...If they want to keep a show on the air they have to keep ppl watching, and therefore they must listen to the audience.
Which fans are they supposed to listen to? The ones that want Lumi or the ones that want EJami or the ones that want neither? Do they go by volumne of mail, campaigns, etc? That is my problem with listening to the fans, who do you listen to?
THAT has been my source of frustration about this. Who do they listen to? So many people feel they are OWED. Personally, I think they should weigh a balance of things: letters that set a general mood and feel (and letters that can EXPLAIN their side instead of the vague mantras often chanted), input from respected actors (read: actors that aren't just concerned for their screentime), plus, they need a writer who actually WATCHES the end result. What a miracle it would be if the the producer (Ed) and the writer and director occasionally watched some episodes together to see the end results.................
AND, if they go to boards, they need to reach beyond NBC and Sony,both of which are heavily (and yes, sometimes unfairly) monitored. This board, SON, Television without Pity......getting a wide variety of posting input is beneficial. Personally, if I was a power, I would read posts that go into explanations and give opinions based on good old-fashioned debate skills rather than wahh-wahh, me-me posts and na-na-na-na-boo-boo posts. If a fan doesn't even try to take all points and factors into consideration as much as possible, that fan is rather unfair.
Aww, I might be slightly grumpy because I just got back from knee surgery,but shoot, what the heck. I can't do much beyond sit on my keister for a few days! :D

LATEST RATINGS: Good Week of CBS
Wow. He got them fast today!!

DAYS:Scoops from TV Guide
Why the hell doesn't Marlena save herself for once? Chalk one up for strong women instead of women needing the hero all the time.

SOW: A closer look, John
JohnandMarlenaFreak
Jul 31 2008, 10:05 AM
Dragonish1
Jul 31 2008, 09:19 AM
jules
Jul 31 2008, 09:00 AM
Dragonish1
Jul 31 2008, 08:56 AM
LMAO, Mar will not let Jawn kill Steffy cuz it is against the law, but she will put him in a catatonic state and fool with hospital records and tests to cover her deeds....interesting. *sniff* I smell a Marlena double standard...anyone else?
Maybe Marlena actually cares about John and doesn't want him to be hurt. She did what she did to save John. Seeing two meglamaniacs battle it out over money and power doesn't appeal to me. I know others love it, but that's not for me.
And Marlena may have double standards, but so doesn't every other character on this soap. She's seems to be the only one held to higher standards.
No, Marlena now has double standards out tha wazoo. When I was a kid this character was so different, she was fun and exciting. She was not polluted with the self importence & righteous indignation that I see in her now...Example, her ridicluous celll phone lecture to Trent....OMG, I sat & watched thinking WTF is that? The Marlena I see now is not The Marlena I loved growing up. I hate the way she is written. It is an absolute abomination. I see no caring in her pleas to do right, just a love to be bossy and to lecture...She does what she wants when she wants to.
Just more crappy writing,whoever is going the writing doesn't know the character of Marlena at all,but I LOVE Marlena and I admit thats hypocritical,but then again if someone goes through life and says they've never been hypocritical there a damn liar,everyone is hypocritical at some point,especially a soap opera,ALL characters on soaps are hypocritical at some point.



BYE BYE AVA,I will NOT miss you,I will have a fun party when your gone,Drinks all around.
Remember what happened the last time someone promised drinks all around. ;)

SOW: A closer look, John
Dragonish1
Jul 31 2008, 08:56 AM
LMAO, Mar will not let Jawn kill Steffy cuz it is against the law, but she will put him in a catatonic state and fool with hospital records and tests to cover her deeds....interesting. *sniff* I smell a Marlena double standard...anyone else?
You bet your sweet bippy!

DAYS:Spoilers & Previews
Pearly_Moon
Jul 31 2008, 08:56 AM
Angie79
Jul 31 2008, 03:31 AM
National Enquirer spoilers

Sami and EJ share an intimate moment.

Nicole confesses to Phillip that she is falling for EJ.

http://groups.msn.com/SecondChancesTheLUMIMega-Site/spoiledrotten.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=360983&LastModified=4675683644093802599
I truly hope this is the last intimate moment shared before they Sami decides to get her shit together and be with EJ. I'm just sick and tired of, as other have said, the merry-go-round. Pick EJ, stay with EJ and stop acting like you didn't enjoy the British "banger". This is getting to me already, I had a dream last night I was rooting for Nicole and EJ. :stars: Actually, I was for a split second but that's neither here nor there. At any event, this week sounds so refreshing. We get a rest from Stax and Chan, that in it self is a relief. I'm eagerly anticipating this week's arrival. :dance:
Actually, I'm hoping for the opposite so Nicole and EJ can get together. More merry-go-round!

DAYS:Spoilers & Previews
annalee003
Jul 31 2008, 08:05 AM
ladyofthelake
Jul 31 2008, 06:36 AM
Oh, Gawd, here comes that damn merry-go-round again.....................
I'm getting dizzy just thinking about it.
Dizzy from happiness or nausea? :D