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July 2011 Episode Rankings & Stats
crookedhalo
Jul 31 2011, 04:10 PM
let's see EJ is the most scene again this month, like every moth... and the ratings suck...clue? I'm not against EJ being on the show. EJ, to me, has super potential.. but geez, come on. Shoving EJ down my freaking throat is not appealing... and look Taylor was on 15 out of 20 days, clue?? Taylor is not appealing and her leaving can't come fast enough. I once commented about this show being heavy bad guy stories, and a Sopranos comment was made. Problem, this show wasn't like that, and isn't being seen as watchable like that. I want more good guys, and no I don't mean wall to wall Rafe.

I want Bo, John, Roman, Jack, Roman, & Rafe. And yes, I WANT LUCAS! I don't care to see Mel everyday or Carrie (vomits heavily). And bringing Marlena, better be an improved Marlena and not a morenoblethanyou bitch. Jen needs to be stronger and yes I like Sami, can we get that?? probably not.

EJ needs to be less used but more improved.
But wasn't Galen nearly as much?

Spoilers for the week of August 8th
crookedhalo
Jul 31 2011, 04:17 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 31 2011, 12:45 PM
olddaysfan
Jul 31 2011, 12:17 PM
I keep reading all the angst regarding Rafe and his relationship to Sami's children. I really believe most of this is just driven by the fact that Rafe is not a beloved character or that the posted is an EJami or Lumi.

My husband is a great stepdad to my children. He loves them as if they were his own, but acknowledges they have a father. He's been referred to as their father and even their grandfather. He doesn't try to usurp anyone's position, but there are times when it just isn't practical or necessary to correct everyone. He knows who he is and my children know who their father is.

Isn't it better that Rafe love those children and treat them well? Would it be better for them to hate Rafe and hate their mother for marrying him?

If you don't like the character, fine, but there are plenty of things to not like about a character. This, to me, should not be one of them.

Now having said this, let me say that I've never been a real fan of Sami's. My dislike for her stems from they way she always treated John. It will be interesting to see what kind of relationship, if any, she and John have, going forward.
I think you missed the point. When, recently, did Rafe say he was the "stepfather"? That's our point entirely. Both he and Sami refer to the kids as "theirs", with nary a clarification, really. When has Lucas been acknowledged, except to ship Ally back to the states? It wasn't just that one situation.
And this is a fictional show with some pretty passionate fanbases. Whether or not Sami and Lucas, or Sami and EJ or whomever, ever get together, it's a slap in the face to those fanbases by having Rafe pretty well take over. Especially to the Lucas fans.
You mentioned John. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but did he ever claim to be Sami's father to the point where Roman was disregarded? I don't think so.

Now, if Sami and Rafe do have a child together.....oy, veh.
maybe because to say, "Oh their not my kids, I'm their stepfather, they have their on dad's" Would make him sound like a real shithole. IMO. I mean who does that? I reiterate, argument old...
Oh, good grief. :huh:

How about "I fell for a woman who had these wonderful kids who I love like my own?"

There are eloquent ways to have Rafe to say this so he doesn't sound more of an asshole than he already is......... :chee:

Spoilers for the week of August 8th
olddaysfan
Jul 31 2011, 12:17 PM
I keep reading all the angst regarding Rafe and his relationship to Sami's children. I really believe most of this is just driven by the fact that Rafe is not a beloved character or that the posted is an EJami or Lumi.

My husband is a great stepdad to my children. He loves them as if they were his own, but acknowledges they have a father. He's been referred to as their father and even their grandfather. He doesn't try to usurp anyone's position, but there are times when it just isn't practical or necessary to correct everyone. He knows who he is and my children know who their father is.

Isn't it better that Rafe love those children and treat them well? Would it be better for them to hate Rafe and hate their mother for marrying him?

If you don't like the character, fine, but there are plenty of things to not like about a character. This, to me, should not be one of them.

Now having said this, let me say that I've never been a real fan of Sami's. My dislike for her stems from they way she always treated John. It will be interesting to see what kind of relationship, if any, she and John have, going forward.
I think you missed the point. When, recently, did Rafe say he was the "stepfather"? That's our point entirely. Both he and Sami refer to the kids as "theirs", with nary a clarification, really. When has Lucas been acknowledged, except to ship Ally back to the states? It wasn't just that one situation.
And this is a fictional show with some pretty passionate fanbases. Whether or not Sami and Lucas, or Sami and EJ or whomever, ever get together, it's a slap in the face to those fanbases by having Rafe pretty well take over. Especially to the Lucas fans.
You mentioned John. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but did he ever claim to be Sami's father to the point where Roman was disregarded? I don't think so.

Now, if Sami and Rafe do have a child together.....oy, veh.

Weekly Discussion 7/25-7/29
I finally caught up with two weeks' worth of recordings (yes, glutton for punishment), and I thought the episode with Jennifer and Carly was hugely powerful. Too good for Higley! As much as I don't care for CC personally, her acting during this whole stuff has been nothing short of fantastic. And (dare I say it?) Molly Burnett wasn't bad, either!

Spoilers for the week of August 8th
crookedhalo
Jul 30 2011, 06:05 PM
^^still nothing wrong with a stepdad loving kids as if they were his own. It's not like they call him dad, I guess I'm the only one (ok not really) that gets tired of this argument. And I guess she likes big families, I mean look at Sami she's got 1 full sibling, 4 half siblings, and a step brother. Her father has 2 full siblings, 1 half sibling, and 2 adopted siblings. Eric and Sami really never got raised by both their parents sometimes it was one, sometimes the other, sometimes John and Marlena, and sometimes just John; 2 of her half siblings weren't raised by either parent; Brady was raised by his dad & Marlena-- Belle was the only one that got both parents at the same time. Seems to me Sami is use to this mixed up parenting. Though, still not wanting a Safe child.
He didn't' correct his FBI plant (Sophia or whoever), when she mentioned 4 kids, or clarify that they were Sami's kids. That didn't sit well with me at all, and I'm not all that involved with this whole debate. Big families or not, this should be enough, especially if Sami being pregnant just serves as another plot device. And that goes for any character.
And, let's see...for those you mentioned: Sami sorta went off the deep end when she was younger, yes? Where's Eric been? Brady's got his dark side, and Belle came across as a spoiled brat. As for Sami being used to the mixed up parenting....what happened to her whole chip on the shoulder attitude about her mother and John? Guess poor Ally will be kidnapping this new baby next.

Interesting/Spoilerish Tweets, Week of 7/25
I think Justin/Wally's goofy smile is adorable.

SOD: Maggie is Shot!
Bring it! This does sound great, and I absolutely have no trouble with them showing this. I love it when TV can show older folks having bright, vibrant lives. This whole youth culture thing is one of the causes (I daresay) of the incessant need to inject botulism into one's face until one resembles, well, nothing human.
Baby Boomer sex rocks!

TV Guide Network Developing "Hollywood Moms Club" featuring Alison Sweeney
thrillmar
Jul 28 2011, 02:15 AM
ladyofthelake
Jul 27 2011, 06:52 AM
thrillmar
Jul 27 2011, 02:10 AM
slightlyamused
Jul 27 2011, 01:38 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I don't know that and I'm careful about my assumptions.
Maybe you know something I don't.

Regardless, it's not my place to tell anyone how to raise their kids or judge them for their choices. Everyone makes their own choices. It's their family. Not mine. Not yours. Not even the cast and crew at DAYS. If you think Ali neglects her kids and deprives them love, you have every right to think that. I just don't know how that's relevant to anyone on this board, the cast and crew at Days or anyone in the industry. That's between her and her kids.

The quantity and quality of the time between parents and kids is a whole other topic.
By the way, this being between her and her kids: When kids in our society are affected, we are ALL affected collectively. Divisions of Family Services is full of kids they can't serve because everything is "the business of the parents and the kids only." So are the jails. Even if it isn't that extreme, we ARE affected. Or at least, anyone who might end up associated with Ali and/or her kids can be affected, negatively or positively. If, in SPITE of all this, her kids turn out OK, that's not going to be because of Ali, most likely, if she's not with them. It will be because of genetics, or the treatment of the nanny, or of Dave. (Is he still a highway patrolman?)
And, damn right, it IS Days' business if it starts affecting her work.
I don't think this the place to get into a "It takes a village" discussion.
I do agree with you on most points, but it will be for those kids to decide when the time comes whether they had enough love and mothering. Nobody can decide that but themselves. But kids are also easily influenced, teenagers will rebel and shaming someone's parenting skills over the internet isn't going to help them.

Ali and Day's have a great relationship.
And honestly, has anyone ever been let go from work so they can go be a better parent?
If you mean her other projects affecting her work at Days - Ali is the least of their problems at the moment. I'm sure Ali will be of service to the new production and writing teams. She knows the business.
I'm sure she's glad she has such a positive fan on her side. However, it is OK for us to discuss this and the ramifications on this board, since it follows the rules. I sincerely doubt Allison would listen to advice of fans anyway, unless it has to do with what couple for Sami needs to be the "It" couple at the moment. And, I'm not going to be shamed or guilt-tripped into not discussing it.

James Scott on EJ Hitting Bottom
jtsahottie
Jul 27 2011, 11:23 AM
SocRMum1
Jul 27 2011, 10:24 AM
lumifan4life85
Jul 27 2011, 02:58 AM
As long as they brush off 12/29 like it never happened, no, he hasn't suffered enough. He should lose Johnny to Lucas. They should re-do the paternity test. THAT would be the only thing that would truly make him pay.
The absolute last thing they need to do is drag that all out again.

At this point in his life, I doubt Johnny even remembers Lucas. He definitely doesn't have much if any relationship with him. Why drag the kid through another endless round of heartache? Rafe long ago took whatever place Lucas might have had in Johnny's life...it's tough enough for the kid to have to grapple with two father figures...why add a third? :shrug:

The only thing reversing the paternity of either Johnny or Allie would do this long after the fact is appease one fan base or the other. I can't imagine much of the rest of the audience cares one way or the other. In fact, I'd wager most folks would prefer to see less focus on Sami's kids and their daddy-go-round rather than a whole new chapter.
I'd agree with you if this was real life and a real child was being affected, but since this is a fictional show I believe TPTB will think that if Sami and EJ continue to have children to fight about or that connect them it will mean more stories that frankly I'm pretty sure the audience don't find interesting and never have. :frustration:
So, if these are fictional children, isn't EJ a fictional character, too? So, why must he keep paying? They're all fictional.

Spoilers for the week of August 1st
You young sprouts don't get it. The older the violin, the sweeter the music, as Gus McCrae would say.

Louise Sorel blogs for SOD about her exit
WHOA! Rock on, girlfriend! This type of experience happened to my daughter at an amusement park where she was working, except she was summarily "suspended" and is kept in limbo. Where is the human side to employers anymore?

TV Guide Network Developing "Hollywood Moms Club" featuring Alison Sweeney
thrillmar
Jul 27 2011, 02:10 AM
slightlyamused
Jul 27 2011, 01:38 AM
thrillmar
Jul 27 2011, 01:36 AM
slightlyamused
Jul 26 2011, 09:39 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
The message is very clear.
Read between the lines.

It's not Ali being a "wonderful ambitious mother"...

She has displayed a great level of commitment (to DAYS)
and deserves to pursue the things which she is truly passionate about.

The best thing you can do for your kids is lead by example:
SPREAD YOUR WINGS AND PURSUE YOUR PASSIONS!

and leave them with Nannies full time!! Spread your wings and FLY Ali!
I don't know that and I'm careful about my assumptions.
Maybe you know something I don't.

Regardless, it's not my place to tell anyone how to raise their kids or judge them for their choices. Everyone makes their own choices. It's their family. Not mine. Not yours. Not even the cast and crew at DAYS. If you think Ali neglects her kids and deprives them love, you have every right to think that. I just don't know how that's relevant to anyone on this board, the cast and crew at Days or anyone in the industry. That's between her and her kids.

The quantity and quality of the time between parents and kids is a whole other topic.
By the way, this being between her and her kids: When kids in our society are affected, we are ALL affected collectively. Divisions of Family Services is full of kids they can't serve because everything is "the business of the parents and the kids only." So are the jails. Even if it isn't that extreme, we ARE affected. Or at least, anyone who might end up associated with Ali and/or her kids can be affected, negatively or positively. If, in SPITE of all this, her kids turn out OK, that's not going to be because of Ali, most likely, if she's not with them. It will be because of genetics, or the treatment of the nanny, or of Dave. (Is he still a highway patrolman?)
And, damn right, it IS Days' business if it starts affecting her work.

TV Guide Network Developing "Hollywood Moms Club" featuring Alison Sweeney
thrillmar
Jul 27 2011, 02:10 AM
slightlyamused
Jul 27 2011, 01:38 AM
thrillmar
Jul 27 2011, 01:36 AM
slightlyamused
Jul 26 2011, 09:39 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
The message is very clear.
Read between the lines.

It's not Ali being a "wonderful ambitious mother"...

She has displayed a great level of commitment (to DAYS)
and deserves to pursue the things which she is truly passionate about.

The best thing you can do for your kids is lead by example:
SPREAD YOUR WINGS AND PURSUE YOUR PASSIONS!

and leave them with Nannies full time!! Spread your wings and FLY Ali!
I don't know that and I'm careful about my assumptions.
Maybe you know something I don't.

Regardless, it's not my place to tell anyone how to raise their kids or judge them for their choices. Everyone makes their own choices. It's their family. Not mine. Not yours. Not even the cast and crew at DAYS. If you think Ali neglects her kids and deprives them love, you have every right to think that. I just don't know how that's relevant to anyone on this board, the cast and crew at Days or anyone in the industry. That's between her and her kids.

The quantity and quality of the time between parents and kids is a whole other topic.
But, don't you think common sense dictates that Ali hasn't been cloning herself? I mean, come on. Every time we turn around, she's out doing something else new WHILE not dropping the previous gigs. I have no issues with ambition as long as family and friends don't get high heel marks on their backs on her climb to the top. And it's a POOR lesson to teach kids to do a ton of things and not do any of them well. I work with kids whose parents have that idea for themselves or for their own kids. Many of them are so burned out they can't see straight. Many of them have parents who can't attend their programs because they're out doing something else "for themselves".
Maybe this whole "doing it for me will benefit my kids" attitude we've been touted for 2-3 decades is starting to show its toll............
And maybe the other actresses are doing other things, too. They're just not so damned IN YOUR FACE about it.
Ali is all "Look at me!!! Look at me!!! I'm SupermomActressAuthor!. I'm an expert now at weight loss since I lost weight. I'm an expert at doggie nutrition since I own a dog. I'm an expert at mommy-ing since I squeezed out two kids".

Fine. I own a dog. I've lost (and gained weight). I have two kids. I've been on a stage. Hell, I've sung at Busch Stadium before and had kids sing there. Maybe I should start promoting myself! Nadia, watch out!

Alison Sweeney - Larry Flick radio interview
daisy132
Jul 25 2011, 01:05 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 25 2011, 11:33 AM
It's refreshing to see an AS/Sami thread turning into a debate about EJ/Rafe as individuals rather than EJami/Safe. And no debate about the virtues of Sami. Love it!
If we were to discuss only the interview, it would be all about oral health.
Awww, but you know how everything segues. I'm just glad there's a variation to it, at least. Carry on.

TV Guide Network Developing "Hollywood Moms Club" featuring Alison Sweeney
tomsawyer
Jul 25 2011, 11:54 AM
ladyofthelake
Jul 25 2011, 11:48 AM
luvdayssafe
Jul 25 2011, 11:40 AM
justforfun
Jul 25 2011, 11:25 AM
As I think she will play support in Wills SL for example until hers with getting the business job heats up.
And then what? She'll have THREE TV shows? Now, I'm not a big TV connoisseur, but is there anyone else out there, male or female, who does that much?
Ryan Seacrest.
And how old are his kids? Or does he purport to take care of them?

TV Guide Network Developing "Hollywood Moms Club" featuring Alison Sweeney
luvdayssafe
Jul 25 2011, 11:40 AM
justforfun
Jul 25 2011, 11:25 AM
As I think she will play support in Wills SL for example until hers with getting the business job heats up.
And then what? She'll have THREE TV shows? Now, I'm not a big TV connoisseur, but is there anyone else out there, male or female, who does that much?

Alison Sweeney - Larry Flick radio interview
It's refreshing to see an AS/Sami thread turning into a debate about EJ/Rafe as individuals rather than EJami/Safe. And no debate about the virtues of Sami. Love it!

TV Guide Network Developing "Hollywood Moms Club" featuring Alison Sweeney
She sure is getting a lot of mileage out of this mom thing, isn't she?

Alison Sweeney - Larry Flick radio interview
I thought it said an interview with Larry Flynt. :embarrassed:

Hey, didn't someone tell me she was on the cover of Self?

SOD: Sarah Brown joins Days
So, I gather this is a good thing? :-)