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Spoilers for the week of August 8th
ChampagneRiver
Jul 30 2011, 12:31 AM
cyndabell
Jul 29 2011, 08:34 PM
Casey
Jul 29 2011, 08:17 PM
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And EVERYTHING you say about Will being accepted as a son, nephew, and grandson is why it would offer no drama. They WOULD accept him. All it takes is for Chad's new daddy and his scheming brother and perhaps his "fake" daddy to get involved, and of course Sonny and Abby, and we'll get the drama. No doubt about it!
Who says that? I don't see all of them being too keen on the idea at first. I could see a lot of them struggling to accept it at first. And yet another story with Stefano not accepting one of his children? No thanks. Yes, it could be dramatic, but that's another thing that's been played out. There could be a ton of drama if it centers around Will, especially because he's such a legacy character and part of the two core families. Chad hasn't even been somewhat hesitant when it comes to his relationship with Abby, nor has he even shared a single scene with Sonny, who would most likely play a role in it.
The fact that Chad hasn't shared a scene with Sonny could be seen as odd when you think about it. Sonny has met everyone else in the teen circle but not Chad. Abby and Sonny spoke rather cutely about Chad when they first crossed paths, but Abby seemingly hasn't been much interested in introducing her cousin and her boyfriend to each other. I don't know, maybe it's just the writing but who knows? Others who can be thrown into the Sonny/Chad saga? Victor, who would without a doubt not approve of his nephew seeing Chad. Ditto for Sonny's parents Justin and Adrienne. Sonny/Chad might also cause a rift between siblings Jack and Adrienne. If it looks as if Sonny "stole" Chad away from Abby, that's likely to get Jack and Adrienne arguing with each other on a regular basis. Jack would defend his daughter like a pit bull while Adrienne would defend her son like a pit bull. Now THAT'S family angst.
On the contrary, I'm sure Jack would be thrilled for his little girl to stop dating a DiMera.
Oh, you're probably right about this ONE particular point, especially if Abby gets used as a beard, and I don't mean the kind that a man has on his face. :cheers:

Spoilers for the week of August 8th
Casey
Jul 29 2011, 08:17 PM
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And EVERYTHING you say about Will being accepted as a son, nephew, and grandson is why it would offer no drama. They WOULD accept him. All it takes is for Chad's new daddy and his scheming brother and perhaps his "fake" daddy to get involved, and of course Sonny and Abby, and we'll get the drama. No doubt about it!
Who says that? I don't see all of them being too keen on the idea at first. I could see a lot of them struggling to accept it at first. And yet another story with Stefano not accepting one of his children? No thanks. Yes, it could be dramatic, but that's another thing that's been played out. There could be a ton of drama if it centers around Will, especially because he's such a legacy character and part of the two core families. Chad hasn't even been somewhat hesitant when it comes to his relationship with Abby, nor has he even shared a single scene with Sonny, who would most likely play a role in it.
The fact that Chad hasn't shared a scene with Sonny could be seen as odd when you think about it. Sonny has met everyone else in the teen circle but not Chad. Abby and Sonny spoke rather cutely about Chad when they first crossed paths, but Abby seemingly hasn't been much interested in introducing her cousin and her boyfriend to each other. I don't know, maybe it's just the writing but who knows? Others who can be thrown into the Sonny/Chad saga? Victor, who would without a doubt not approve of his nephew seeing Chad. Ditto for Sonny's parents Justin and Adrienne. Sonny/Chad might also cause a rift between siblings Jack and Adrienne. If it looks as if Sonny "stole" Chad away from Abby, that's likely to get Jack and Adrienne arguing with each other on a regular basis. Jack would defend his daughter like a pit bull while Adrienne would defend her son like a pit bull. Now THAT'S family angst.

Spoilers for the week of August 8th
Casey
Jul 29 2011, 03:39 PM
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Not to mention that it would be really different if the show didn't play into every overwrought stereotype every other gay storyline had delved into. Instead of having part of the family disown the person, why not show a loving family working on accepting something they never expected? That doesn't mean there is no conflict, just that the conflict isn't yelling and screaming and crying. It's Sami (and Lucas) questioning if their horrible parenting choices had an impact on Will's sexuality, it's the Catholic Bradys reconciling their faith with their love for Will in a non-hysterical manner. It's Will's friends dealing with the news and the social pressures they face. There are a million wonderful and emotional layers to explore to the whole thing without playing to stereotypes.
Exactly! I think this story will play out so much better if it centers on Will and the relationship he has with his family. That's what the story should be about. It's a story about family drama and coming to accept your son, nephew, and grandson for who he is. Every beat should be played, which they couldn't do with Chad.
And EVERYTHING you say about Will being accepted as a son, nephew, and grandson is why it would offer no drama. They WOULD accept him. All it takes is for Chad's new daddy and his scheming brother and perhaps his "fake" daddy to get involved, and of course Sonny and Abby, and we'll get the drama. No doubt about it!

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Casey
Jul 29 2011, 03:43 PM
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And the conflict for them is simply an old-fashioned soap staple. Two teens in love having sex and the girl gets pregnant. And all of the trials and tribulations of that comes afterwards. The old-fashioned teen pregnancy storyline with the parents becoming involved, and the possible drama of Will and Gabi NOT wanting them involved. But Sami and Rafe insinuate themselves anyway. No gay angle needed!
How many times has that been played out? Boring!
Technically, I agree. But this also sounds like something that would play out according to the way TPTB describes that the show will become, September and beyond. Something about the show going back to old-fashioned storytelling and family roots? Or something like that?

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SocRMum1
Jul 29 2011, 02:23 PM
cyndabell
Jul 29 2011, 02:18 PM
LuvingLumi
Jul 29 2011, 02:11 PM
cyndabell
Jul 29 2011, 01:53 PM
I can believe the part about Gabi getting pregnant and Sami and Rafe taking custody of their baby. I just think all of this will be done without gay issues being involved. I don't think Will is gay as perhaps originally planned. I really don't! We saw Will's awkwardness with Gabi weeks ago but where did it all go? Will has been really cool and at ease lately. The hints are gone! Show me that he's interested in Sonny even after he's now learned Sonny is gay. The next couple of weeks will be telling.
I think the story was purposely shifted but I still believe he is the gay character. I think maybe at first it was just going to be too rushed, he would be awkward with Gabby as we saw, but then there was a shift and we saw him being more comfortable about kissing her in public and all and now we get this spoiler. I think the decision was made to have them sleep together so that once he comes out as being gay there is more of a story to simply 'Will is gay' and he comes to his friends and family. There needs to be some conflict,it's a soap after all.
And the conflict for them is simply an old-fashioned soap staple. Two teens in love having sex and the girl gets pregnant. And all of the trials and tribulations of that comes afterwards. The old-fashioned teen pregnancy storyline with the parents becoming involved, and the possible drama of Will and Gabi NOT wanting them involved. But Sami and Rafe insinuate themselves anyway. No gay angle needed!
Will it bother you if it turns out that Will is gay? Is it because it's Will specifically?
What if it did? I'm going by what I'm seeing onscreen and I'm responding to it accordingly. I'd say that Will being gay bothers some just as some people seem thrilled and welcoming to the idea of him being gay. We've ALL got our THANG! :rockon:

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michelle
Jul 29 2011, 02:13 PM
But that's not always how it works. He may not be interested in Sonny yet because right now he likes (or thinks he likes) Gabi. He may realize after being intimate with her, that she really doesn't float his boat.

He then may start to develop feelings for Sonny after he gets to know him better.

Which is actually a really good way to fall in love. It doesn't HAVE to be instant.

Like that scarf sniffing BOMB of a storyline we were tortured with earlier this year.
And I'll certainly be watching for his reaction and behavior after they are intimate with each other because I think THAT will tell us a great deal about what Will is thinking and feeling.

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LuvingLumi
Jul 29 2011, 02:11 PM
cyndabell
Jul 29 2011, 01:53 PM
I can believe the part about Gabi getting pregnant and Sami and Rafe taking custody of their baby. I just think all of this will be done without gay issues being involved. I don't think Will is gay as perhaps originally planned. I really don't! We saw Will's awkwardness with Gabi weeks ago but where did it all go? Will has been really cool and at ease lately. The hints are gone! Show me that he's interested in Sonny even after he's now learned Sonny is gay. The next couple of weeks will be telling.
I think the story was purposely shifted but I still believe he is the gay character. I think maybe at first it was just going to be too rushed, he would be awkward with Gabby as we saw, but then there was a shift and we saw him being more comfortable about kissing her in public and all and now we get this spoiler. I think the decision was made to have them sleep together so that once he comes out as being gay there is more of a story to simply 'Will is gay' and he comes to his friends and family. There needs to be some conflict,it's a soap after all.
And the conflict for them is simply an old-fashioned soap staple. Two teens in love having sex and the girl gets pregnant. And all of the trials and tribulations of that comes afterwards. The old-fashioned teen pregnancy storyline with the parents becoming involved, and the possible drama of Will and Gabi NOT wanting them involved. But Sami and Rafe insinuate themselves anyway. No gay angle needed!

Spoilers for the week of August 8th
I can believe the part about Gabi getting pregnant and Sami and Rafe taking custody of their baby. I just think all of this will be done without gay issues being involved. I don't think Will is gay as perhaps originally planned. I really don't! We saw Will's awkwardness with Gabi weeks ago but where did it all go? Will has been really cool and at ease lately. The hints are gone! Show me that he's interested in Sonny even after he's now learned Sonny is gay. The next couple of weeks will be telling.

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LuvingLumi
Jul 27 2011, 04:53 PM
There was also what Wally said about Sonny's love interest being the son of someone important. That has Sami's son written all over that statement
That has Stefano's son written all over that statement too! What's his name again? Ah yes! C-H-A-D. Oh, but he's with Abby, isn't he? Simple, bossy, boring, insipid Abby. The one he does nothing with except moan about how "unfair" their daddies have been to them. I think she'd make a great "beard" for him. :flipoff: And I'm somewhat mystified that Sonny and Chad still have not met each other. Sonny has met all of the group except him. What has our little Abby been thinking not to want to introduce her sweet cousin to the man in her life? :scared:

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lysie
Jul 27 2011, 04:44 PM
This is nice! But it still isn't coinciding even a little bit with what's onscreen now. Will went from a shaky kid around Gabi a few weeks ago to being cool about Sonny's revelation and his relationship with Gabi now. And I'm not forgetting the tweaking they were supposed to do with the 17 episode rewrite. THIS may be one of those rewrites.

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lysie
Jul 27 2011, 04:20 PM
cyndabell
Jul 27 2011, 03:58 PM
lene
Jul 27 2011, 03:50 PM
Will isn't hiding anything though, he doesn't know yet he's gay... It'll probably start with him and Sonny being friends, and then... he starts feeling something!
At Will's age, he doesn't know whether or not he's gay? He doesn't know whether he's really drawn to girls or guys or even both? I can't buy that! I think Will would know at his age, if other guys get him horny or if he has an emotional attachment to them, be it Sonny or some other guy.
Will just graduated from high school. That sounds incredibly accurate to me. I know several guys I went to high school with that didn't know until college. Heck, I know people that didn't know until they were married with kids. It's pretty common.

We've gotten the "Will is gay" spoiler from multiple people and articles.
Really? Many people claim to have known that they were gay long before they even became a teenager. So, I would assume it's not that simple in any case. The only so-called confirmation comes from Camilla Banus (really, why her and not Chandler Massey)? All other sources seem unsubstantiated since Corday himself never named Will as his choice. He didn't! Bottomlime for me? They've not sold it to me that Will is gay ONSCREEN, certainly not in the past 2 episodes, so I'll wait....................... :cart:

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slightlyamused
Jul 27 2011, 04:07 PM
Can we bring Rick Hearst's character back???
Who did Rick Hearst play on DAYS?

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lene
Jul 27 2011, 03:50 PM
Will isn't hiding anything though, he doesn't know yet he's gay... It'll probably start with him and Sonny being friends, and then... he starts feeling something!
At Will's age, he doesn't know whether or not he's gay? He doesn't know whether he's really drawn to girls or guys or even both? I can't buy that! I think Will would know at his age, if other guys get him horny or if he has an emotional attachment to them, be it Sonny or some other guy.

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Casey
Jul 27 2011, 02:50 PM
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I didn't see him hiding anything either....there are absolutely NO signs that Will is even remotely gay...not yet anyway.
I think there's been very small hints, which we'll probably see more of in the coming months. I bet Dena royally fucked up the storyline and Marlene and Darell had to rewrite most of it.
There's actually been more hints (if that really is what they were) BEFORE Sonny's arrival. Since Sonny's arrival, Will hasn't behaved awkwardly at all. Go figure! So far, he's come off as a nice little hetero boy into his cute girlfriend. Speaking of rewrites, weren't there 17 episodes that were rewritten. Maybe these are among them. Will may or may not have been giving off hints before but with the 17 episode rewrites, Will is no longer giving off hints. Just a thought!

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Casey
Jul 27 2011, 02:46 PM
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You think Will is hiding something? After two days of him and the other teens, I FAILED to get that impression. Will was simply acting as a supportive and understanding friend with no awkward feelings about Sonny or Gabi. I think people have been seeing what they wanted to see with regards to Will.
Camila Banus flat out said that Will would be gay at the Emmy's.

I've seen this HIGHLY questionable video before. It's funny that at the same time CM stated he didn't know who the gay character would be and FS stated that he had no idea who he was hooking up with. So I guess it's a game of "who do you believe?" I have to say though, it seems stupid that TPTB would allow a cast member to tip their hand with a very key revelation about this storyline. Why would they want the audience to know upfront who the coveted gay character is as opposed to simply letting the audience speculate about the whole thing? The Camilla Banus interview is questionable to me, and with Will, so far, not coming across as a closet case, it's even more questionable.

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Virgo Twins
Jul 27 2011, 01:09 PM
Very interesting to me that Taylor mentioned something to Stefano about secrets from her past and she had that surprised look on her face when she saw Quinn today I think that Taylor/Quinn must know one another maybe she use to work for him in his illegal dealings.

Gross Carly just Gross :shame:

Gus seems awfully jealous of Quinn I wonder if he will be apart of whatever Kate has in store for Quinn according to the latest spoilers.

I also wonder how Vivian will react if she finds out that Quinn is the one who finds Carly and rescues her from the man in the alley.

They are starting to rev up that gay storyline for Will finally looks like he understands Sonny the most because he is hiding his secret too. I wonder if Gabi will be so understanding of Will like she is with Sonny. T just needs to stop being such a jerk.
You think Will is hiding something? After two days of him and the other teens, I FAILED to get that impression. Will was simply acting as a supportive and understanding friend with no awkward feelings about Sonny or Gabi. I think people have been seeing what they wanted to see with regards to Will.

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Loved the Sonny/Victor/Will scenes and the rest of the bunch. Someone said elsewhere that Will and Gabi seem to display more cuteness and chemistry NOW than they ever have before in the past. I actually agree with that. And I don't know about anyone else, but these scenes did absolutely nothing to tell me that Will is an impending gay character. Nothing at all! If anything it was quite the opposite. I'm beginning to believe even more that the theory of one fellow poster here might be true.

SOW: Chad chooses Stefano!
SlyestFox
Jul 23 2011, 04:49 PM
You know, I really wish there was more nuance to this storyline and to Chad's relationship with Woods. It's lazy to just make it so the D.A. was just randomly some ridiculously horrible neglectful monster just so Stefano looks good in comparison. When we first were introduced to the D.A. as Chad's father, I didn't get the sense that Woods just non-stop ignored and neglected Chad, he just seemed like he was awfully hard on him - but then when Chad was knocking 15-year-olds up and getting into such trouble he was sent to military school one could think that it was half a reaction to Chad's behavior.

I just think it would be more interesting if it wasn't so easy for Chad to be like "Screw you Dad I've known all my life, I'm a DiMera now. Later." It'd be better if he was sort of torn between both families and both fathers.

Regarding the theory that Chad is the gay character, not Will. I don't think so, mainly because the prospect of turning gay is pretty much the only thing Will has going on right now. You take that away and he and Gabi have absolutely no story. Meanwhile, Chad has plenty going on, that they don't really need to add him being gay on top of it.
I still don't agree about Will. Will, as a legacy character tied to just about everyone, turning into the supportive friend/advocate/hero of Chad and Sonny fits his persona and would give him (and Gabi) plenty to do. They'd battle everyone who tried to hurt Chad and Sonny or SoChad (sorry, I had to go there). And I just keep thinking that with Chad so desperately wanting a father's love (Stefano) and with Stefano so instantly accepting and approving of Chad, SOMETHING is going to come out (no pun intended) that will severely test their newfound relationship as father/son.

SOW: Chad chooses Stefano!
ChampagneRiver
Jul 22 2011, 07:15 PM
So Abby is really falling in love with Chad? Really? Because all I've seen from this pairing are a couple of cute kids who enjoy hanging out together and commiserating about their messed up families. Where is the romance? I hope the new writers can put some fire into this couple, because so far, I'm seeing nothing.
I'm not seeing anything special or significant between them either! Unpopular opinion: Will and Gabi actually feel REAL to me. Chad and Abby do not! There's a cuteness to Will and Gabi. He's the cute, shy, and somewhat nerdy kid who has managed to capture the love and attention of a beautiful and exotic latina gal. She's crazy about him and likes him because of his simple shy ways. Chad and Abby feel forced and unlikeable. Abby's a bitch and Chad's a..........I don't know. It'll be a mistake to make Will gay because he and Gabi are a cute teen pair. Make Chad gay instead, and let Abby and Sonny have catfights :cat: over him. :sweet:

SOD: Sarah Brown joins Days
OK then, she's not Sarah Horton but some Madison chick? I know they said something about Madison and Brady but I can so see her involved with EJ someway ,somehow. And with the speculation that EJ runs for mayor, that and the business storyline is bound to become intertwined. Plus her possible involvement with EJ while being involved with Brady only furthers the tension of the DiMera/Kiriakis feud.