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Aug 14 2008, 01:12 PM
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You guys are bringing up some great historical memories of Days.
- Aug 14 2008, 12:39 PM
- Aug 14 2008, 11:57 AM
Well, yes and no, I think. I agree it was present in 88, and it was present even before that, when Stefano became obsessed with Marlena in the early 80's, and then the Brady's were introduced as supporting characters for Roman after the Salem Strangler storyline in 82. But what I have a problem with is that Hogan took a theme that really had not been mentioned since 88 (as you say) and turned it into what drove the entire storyline for months. (And as Pagraves points out, J&M weren't even mentioned.) Stefano's schemes during the 90's weren't based on "Bradys vs. the Dimeras" at all. It was pretty much just Stefano (and Kristen, Lexie, et al) vs. J&M. But I do understand what you're saying, that Hogan didn't just pull it out of thin air.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I totally agree that it was stupid to have J&M so removed from the vendetta storyline and I certainly agree that the Stefano/J&M dynamic was changed a lot during the 1990's and that history has to be just as respected as anything else. And, on top of that, the actual reveal of the vendetta was doubly stupid (it so should have been the Brady's that started it to make any of the rest of it make any kind of sense).
All I'm saying is that when the vendetta storyline started there were a lot of people (and not just J&M fans) that questioned the existence of any kind of vendetta and accused Hogan of just making stuff up. I just found it interesting when recently viewing the old storyline that the idea that Stefano had it out for all the Brady's (although RoJohn more than any) for some sort of vague and undefined reason wasn't developed by Hogan at all. It was there way back when. And, since I'm rambling off topic anyway, it's not like there can only be one motivation. It's easily explained by saying that it started as Stefano pursuing the vendetta against the Brady's and then became more focused on J&M because of Stefano's obsession with Marlena and the fact that his pawn he intended to use against the Brady's had fallen in love with Marlena, etc. The two motivations/themes aren't mutually exclusive at all. And I think using both respects not only J&M"s history with Stefano, but Bo and Hope's and Steve and Kayla's history with him as well.
And now, back on topic, I'm curious to see how the follow through with what they seem to be starting in all of this. Because of that uncertainty, I totally understand FanODays' pessimistic optimism. :D
I agree that Stefano in his 20+ years has pretty much tried to destroy the Brady's including Roman, Marlena, Bo, Hope, Steve, Kayla, and John. Throw in his dislike of his own son Tony and you have Stefano against most of those on screen now. His obsession with Sami would actually make more sense if they tied it to Marlena. You know, "I could not get the mother so I want the daughter for my son." But instead of doing that they make up a complete fabricated farse about Santo and Colleen which goes directly against everything that Stefano has done to all of his victims.
I am too excited about the movement of this s/l now. I confess I want Marlena to give nuJohn a taste of his own medicine and being as uncaring as he was to her feelings. I think we will get some of that as well but I think Marlena will be more depressed and simply accept that her husband is gone and go through the greiving process all over again. I think thats what Deidre means when she says Marlena is "Tired". A tired and dejected Marlena is indeed not a Marlena we have seen.