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Oct 13 2008, 12:56 PM
- June 19, 2008
I'm for no joke on this--
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- Oct 5 2008, 07:24 PM
this is probably in large part the reason I got tired of John with Marlena...the idea that it was inevitable and no one or thing, even the devil could keep them apart. I didn't find that romantic (which I'm sure is simply my own flaw lol) but over time that connection thing has stagnated into something extremely predictable. I realize love is to some degree a mystery...why we fall for one person and not another and what keeps us together, but one's personality and past still have something to do with that and the idea that two people can't fall out of love or lose their connection seems to me rather like suggesting that people don't die. Loss is as much a part of life as love and the latter wouldn't mean much without the possibility of the former.
Oh, I'm not saying that any two people can't fall out of love. I'm saying that John and Marlena wouldn't fall out of love. And if that sounds silly... it's a soap, and they're fictional characters. I understand you don't like that aspect of their relationship, and that's certainly your prerogative, but I would venture to say that many (most?) of the viewers who have liked them over the years have appreciated them in part because of that aspect. So while you find it predictable, many expect it to be the driving force behind their stories. And when it isn't, those viewers who do like it are left feeling alienated, because characters they enjoy watching are behaving out of character, and a relationship they've appreciated for over 20 years now seems as though it had been built on quicksand.
even fictional characters need to be able to lose, or the audience is not going to care about them. If the deck is already stacked in their favor, what is the point?
That's so true. Where's the angst and the suspense?
exactly...which is why, for me at least, most of the J/M stories of the last few years have rung hollow. Their reunion is always a forgone conclusion and if that is going to be the case, fine, but the show needs to stop putting the characters in a position like that and come up with something else for them to do.
YES-- the whole story-- 20 f''ing plus yrs of it-- is built on the otherworldly connection.
YES-- the suspense is always articifical cuz we all know, they be J&M.
YES-- The divorce makes...no...sense...zero...given the history of the characters, much less their emotions for each other.
YES-- WRITE A FREAKING STORY. I DON'T CARE WHICH STORY. THERE ARE ONLY TWO KEY PARAMETERS: unconditional love and smooching. Other than that, I'll just take the ride.
The story pisses me off because its not doing anything but alienating me. It's not drawing eyes, engaging a younger demo [I was 10 when I got into them, so generations need to have some regression analyses done on them, eh?] or accomplishing any goal except making me wanna hurl. Java? HURL!!!!!!!!!!! I hate the DOOLers in control so much because of that I almost want the show to end!
How hard is it to believe multi-generational eyeballs like Romeo and Juliet without the last scene?
Stupid, Burbank, bumble-fucks.