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- December 21, 2007
Thank you for articulating this. As I've said recently, if Days were a book I was reading, I would have closed it long ago. It is not the fault of the fans Days is not written well, and as you pointed out, if we are talking specifically about J&M they had the most potential this year for something really interesting. But whoever was making the decisions at the time, took away the conflict. There was a set up for a Dimera showdown, once and for all, and yes, I was looking forward to it, but then my imagination is much more creative then anything that appears on screen. Instead the canvas is strewn with bed hopping, no commitment, and only characters that play childish games with each other get airtime.
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- Dec 16 2008, 02:14 AM
There is really no story for Jarlena after John´s memory returns, everybody knows it.
I will never accept the argument that there is "no story" for any character, even the characters I dislike or find boring. I think a creative writer (which Dena Higley is not) is able to tell a story for anyone. There is no end to the creativity of the fanfic writers nor to the creativity expressed in some threads on message boards. Yet there is somehow a finite number of stories that can be told on the show? Should we then say that there is a finite number of novels that can be written? Soap writers are authors, and I think there will always be stories that can be told.
As usual, fans sabotaged it, demanding the happy ending here and now.
lol what did we do?? (If you have tips on how to sabotage the current story, I'm all ears!)
Well, if you look at fan fictions, the ones that are written by die hard J&M fans focus on nothing but J&M and them being in love while fan fictions from others that focus on Days, in general, vastly differ, In fact, you will find that in many fan fictions J&M are either split up or off the canvas, unless it's a J&M fan fiction. Why? Because it does get tired after awhile. Until your a writer, you can't realize it and I know it's hard to imagine as fans of them. I never realized either until I began writing. Yes, there is more story to tell but in fan fictions you don't have limits. There is no budget or interference. You cut who you want and what what you want. Having said that, you still reach a point with some characters where you feel you have nothing left for them and have to write them out. It happens and Jane is right and not just about this J&M story. I won't go into the reasons because this debate has been had before.
I love these generalizations about all John and Marlena die-hard fans. I just read a fan fiction that was nicely balanced with all the Bradys and Stefano. John, Marlena, Bo, Hope, and Stefano were the core, but it had wonderful scenes for so many of the characters, not just John and Marlena. I truly loved it. I could easily see this written as a storyline in Days. I'd love for it to be.
I guess it's not only the Days writers who think good stories have to have a triangle. To me, it's sadder that creativity and good storytelling are becoming a lost art. I wasn't against Charlotte, but honestly triangles get old. And you're acting like this was all changed for J&M fans, when most of the J&M fans I know were very excited about Marlena and Kayla going up against Stefano and Rolf to get John's brain fixed before Stefano either turned John back into the pawn or he died. I see nothing but potential stories for J&M, furthermore, I see the potential in the context of family and friends, real stories. I prefer character/relationship development over these little cubbyholes of couples who just rotate partners.
If a couple is boring once they are together, are you saying they should either be the non-stop triangles we see now or that once a couple gets together, they should just exit them immediately because there are no stories for a happy couple?
As for J&M fanfiction, or Bope fanfiction, or even fanfiction about Meleanie (is there any?)...of course it is bias, it is supposed to be, lol. I never in my wildest dreams expect the show to play out some of these stories, but the writers of Days could take a lesson on the essence of the characters from fanfiction.
All the reasons I enjoyed watching Days are gone. I just don't 'like' most of the characters on the front burner. They are not likable people. And no, I didn't enjoy what Dena did to Days the last time she was writing. The show had an overall 'ick' factor. This time it's just plain boring, because she can't write fleshed out stories, so she writes 'events'. OLTL was lucky, too bad Days ran out of theirs.