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Well and that is just fine and perfectly understandable. Just like all the Luloe fans that DID show up (albeit very temporarily) the second Lucas hooked up with Chloe ... they were certainly questioned (I'm speaking of a different board, of course) and it seemed to be valid in that case since the "enthusiasm" dropped off rather quickly. However the enthusiasm for Ejole has not dropped off at all, in fact it has gained steam. There are Lumi fans, sure, that are rooting for EJole, and maybe some of them are doing it for the sake of keeping EJ away from Sami. I can only speak for myself, and I do not believe that EJ needs to be unavailable for Sami and LUcas to reunite. I do not feel threatened by EJ.
- Feb 17 2009, 11:36 AM
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- Feb 16 2009, 10:31 PM
Quoting limited to 3 levels deepDENA HIGLEYNo matter how you slice it, that scene was written as a rape.
That is what I disagree with - I don't think it was originally written to be construed as a rape at all. But their was a viewer backlash with the scene and the next thing you know 'EJ raped Sami'.
The word rape wasn't even said originally - and then a few weeks down the road it's the only word that is EVER used.
Just another example of a horribly executed story that sacrificed multiple couples and potential couples in it's long destructive path. I really believe 12/29 may go down in history as on of the WORST blunders in the history of Days if not all soaps. The far reaching effects of how completely short sighted and craptastic the writing was are astounding IMO.
I'm just jumping in right here for a second. I'm not going to get into the whole rape debate again, but I will say this, no one "caved" to the rape is not romance campaign. If they had, Sami NEVER would have gone to bed willingly with EJ in May. Prior to the campaign ever existing, spoilers indicated that EJ was going to rape Sami. The word "rape" was actually in spoilers before it ever happened on our screens or any campaign was ever organized. So I really wish that some would stop trying to villify a campaign that some felt very strongly about. The purpose of the campaign was to express a strong opposition to the romaticizing of a man who raped a woman, and the woman in question.
One more thing, when those opposed to EJ and Sami ever pairing up because of the rape (and all of the other horrendous things that he did to her and her family), several of us were accused of trying to get James fired. We were accused of wanting EJ written off and therefore wanting James to be out of a job. However, when some of us found that we could accept and even enjoy him with another female character, we are accused of being "interesting" hypocrites because we couldn't accept him with the woman he raped, but we can accept him with another woman even though "once a rapist always a rapist". :shrug:
So what I am gathering from that, is we either accept EJ with Sami, or nothing at all, otherwise we are "interesting".
I hated Jack when he raped Kayla. I never would have accepted her forgiving him and then staying in a relationship with him and continuing some preposterous "romance". I did, however, fall under the spell of Jack and Jennifer. I found myself pulled into the heart-wrenching story of a man who hated himself for the awful thing he had done, who believed himself unworthy of love, and resisted the love of a beautiful young woman who would not give up on him. Through Jennifer, Jack grew, healed, and moved forward as a character, and developed an enormous following. Clearly, some EJ fans do not want that for EJ, they want Sami or nothing at all. Which is fine, but I think accusing those fans who do genuinely appreciate his character in a different story with a different female of being false and/or hypocritical is extremely biased and unfair, not to mention wrong. And throwing around the Rape is not Romance campaign as a scapegoat for why Ejami didn't work, or why the "event" on 12/29 was called rape, is ridiculous and insulting to those of us who took that campaign very seriously, and were genuinely repulsed by the idea of a character willingly getting romantic with the man who raped her and so much more ...
As long as you are a fan of a couple because you really like them and not just because it is keeping EJ away from Lucas and Sami.
I don't like EJOLE because I am an EJAMI fan. At least I can admit it. I am not a LULOE fan though just because I want Lucas away from EJAMI. That would be hypocritical and that's the difference.
I know you are a LUMI fan so I question your real affection for EJOLE. Maybe you do like them or maybe you really like that EJ is temporarily unavailable to Sami.
When EJ first joined the show, I was not a Lumi shipper. I enjoyed Lumi, but I was not really invested. I was open and even looking forward to, a triangle with Sami in the middle. I thought EJ would be a fabulous aside for Sami, while Lucas fumed and realized how much he loved and didn't want to lose her. I wanted to see a real love triangle develop. I liked EJ at first, even when it was revealed that he was a Dimera. I really liked the idea and possibilities it created. However, when they had EJ flip out on Sami when she chose to be with her son instead of continuing their make-out session on her couch, I started to like him a little less ... then there was when he held her by her throat against her wall and Lucas had to come in and get him off of her ... I was pretty much over that idea right about then ... then 12/29 happened .. and lest we forget, EJ didn't only do what he did in the car that night, he also SHOT and left for dead, John, Sami's stepfather. There was no going back, for me, after that night because of BOTH incidents cementing to me that EJ was a "bad guy", and there was no romance here.
As time went on and they tried to white wash the things that EJ did in an attempt to redeem him, and everyone in Salem seemed to forgive and forget, I accepted that EJ wasn't going anywhere, and yet they were not going to let him be "the next Stefano" either. This meant that I either had to accept him with Sami, which I wasn't going to, or I should hope that they find him another love interest with whom I could enjoy him. Well, obviously, they did bring on a new love interest for EJ, and I DID genuinely enjoy him with her. I never liked Nicole when she was on the show before, but I have come to love her now, and I love her and EJ together. The way I enjoy EJole is completely seperate from my feelings for LUMI, just as it has nothing to do with my feelings for my other favorite couples.
Whether EJ was in a relationship with Nicole or Kate, or Melanie, or Brady for crying out loud, does not matter to me in regards to LUMI, because I am a LUMI fan, I believe that they will reunite, and are meant for each other. I do not feel the need for the "competition" to be removed so that my couple can be together. Period.