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Oct 19 2012, 03:36 PM
- January 16, 2009
Quite true and the worst part is that both of these ladies is a disgrace to the women they were. Both always had street smarts and never needed the White Knight Hero but for some reason since Rafe and Mr. Perv came to town that's all the writers want to do is push Walt Disney's version of men on the viewers while most would rather watch men with a dark streak.
- Oct 19 2012, 02:44 PM
- Oct 19 2012, 01:44 PM
- Oct 19 2012, 09:13 AM
- Oct 19 2012, 12:26 AM
Ej has been making plans with Justin to take the baby away from Nicole. So yes he was planning to do that, just as Nicole and Rafe said he would. They were 100% in the right to hide the baby from him.
Nicole left EJ with no choice but to prepare to take legal action to prevent her from giving his child to another man. He knew they were lying all along - and Nicole's offer to reunite with him and raise the baby together IF he left Salem with her certainly sealed her motive for denying the baby was his. It was all about her jealousy of Sami.
Rafe's insistence that EJ was a threat to the baby is asinine. Looking back, EJ and Sami never had issues co-parenting until Sami chose to hide the fact she was pregnant with EJ's baby from him. In fact, during the time that Sami was away in witness protection EJ worked hard to keep her foremost in Johnny's thoughts - insuring Johnny knew how much she loved him and wouldn't forget her during her absence. It was only after Sami opted to keep his daughter from him and Rafe conspired to try to adopt and raise her right under EJ's nose that EJ then retaliated with the Sydnapping. Was it a wise choice? No - definitely not. But up to that point EJ had always maintained a respectful co-parenting relationship with Sami, despite the fact they were not together romantically. He just had no idea she wasn't doing the same.
Nicole knew all of this - she had a front row seat as it unfolded. So for her (and Rafe) to now claim EJ would have 'stolen' her baby from her is stupid. Nicole knew better than anyone that EJ never intended to do that with Johnny (before finding out Grace/Sydney was his) - she had no reason to believe EJ would have done it to her UNTIL she started lying and trying to prevent him from having a relationship with their child. She reaped what she sowed.
Very good a valid points BUT don't you see the irony in what all you stated. Sami knew EJ to be a good parent but decided during her pregnancy that he was this horrible person. Why? Jealous that Nicole was also carrying EJ's baby and he was with Nicole, so she couldn't let EJ get a hold of the child she was carrying. Now Nicole does the exact same thing for supposedly the exact same reason, jealous of Sami.
I definitely see the irony - or even more to the point, the rehashed story line.
I've never thought either one of them had a sound or solid reason for hiding their pregnancy from EJ. In Sami's case they did try to add some substance to it with having her see the mayor being murdered on the DiMera's doorstep - but that was after the fact and pretty flimsy, at best. But Nicole didn't even get that much help from the writers.
If we wanted Disney's we'd watch that channel. :blink: