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LuvingLumi
Feb 16 2013, 10:05 AM
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Feb 15 2013, 09:44 PM
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Feb 15 2013, 12:23 PM

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Stefano didn't influence Ej with the Sydnapping at all, he didn't know about it till a bit after he had done that....that was ALL EJ....and the Rafe2 bit, Ej could have taken himself out of the equation early on, but he chose not too because he specifically said that he wanted his children not to look up to Rafe as a person/father figure/man, whatever...he was just jealous of Johnny/Syd loving this man.....I specifically think that if anything it's proven that EJ can do very nefarious deeds without total influence from Stefano.
I know Stefano didn't tell EJ to take Syd. They were on the outs then because EJ found out that Steffy knew about the babyswitch. I'm saying what Sami's mindset/concern probably is about Stefano returning to EJ's life. And it makes sense she'd be worried since there's a correlation between Stefano's absense and EJ's better behavior. The two times that Stefano has been completely out of EJ's life (early to mid-2008, and mid to late 2012) is when EJ has done the least nefarious deeds. Sami is right to be worried that Stefano's presence in EJ's life could cause him to revert back to the really dark side, just like it did before in 2008.
Yes, but as you just said there are also times that Stefano has been on the outs with Ej and he's still done some pretty horrible things to Sami (i.e, the baby switch). Sami may believe that Ej being away from Stefano helps him be a 'better man', but frankly she's had enough proof that is particularly not the case always...even with Stefano gone and Ej promising Lexie that he would try to do better or whatever he said, he still went ahead and blackmailed Rafe to stay out of Sami's life...the writers are trying every possible avenue to sell this story but for me it'll never work because at the core, Sami should love Ej PERIOD.....she shouldn't say he's changed, she shouldn't see him as changed to fall for him, she shouldn't care about who his father is, she shouldn't give a shit about anything if she loves him....to me the fact that she still spews the 'he's change so much' line to Marlena tells me that at it's core the relationship will never work....fall in love with the person regardless of who their parent are, regardless of who the person is....she knew Kate tried to kill her, she knew that Lucas stood there and almost let her die, she didn't trust Lucas at first but she couldn't control her feelings for him for too long, she knew who he was and she didn't care, why should she care so much about Ej being a changed man? If at the core she loves him?
But in Sami's mind, the "real EJ" is the one she has been around for the last 4-5 months. That's what her "stepped in yourself" and "you've become the man you were always meant to be" language implies. To Sami (and Lexie too), EJ is a good man at his core and it's the influence/presence of Stefano that turns him into something bad at times. And because of the correlation between Stefano's presence in EJ's life and his behavior, I think there's some validity to Sami's feelings. EJ has displayed a twisted need to please his father and, even if he's pissed at him, EJ's decision-making skews dark when Stefano is part of his life. When Stefano is completely gone (when he was in a coma in '08 and "dead" in '12), EJ generally chose better behavior. He wasn't perfect, but certainly better. And EJ will always struggle with the influence of Stefano because his father's morality is now a part of him, but he should be grown up enough to choose whether to give into that side of himself. EJ said he's stopped blaming others so maybe this time, even with Stefano in his life again, EJ will realize that he's an adult who can choose not to give into Stefano's influence and the darkest aspects of who he is.

And as to Sami not accepting who EJ has been in the past, I have zero problem with that. He's done some really evil shit to her and her family, so frankly, I'd think it was weird if she embraced the darkest aspects of his behavior. It's fine for her to still love and forgive him despite some of his worst deeds, but to accept them? No, she shouldn't. To me, Sami finally loving and accepting EJ for who he is doesn't have to mean loving and accepting everything bad thing he's ever done or will do. It means loving and accepting that he's a flawed person who will always struggle against his demons, and loving him enough to stick with him when he's tempted to give into his dark side. At this stage, I think it's pretty unclear whether Ejami's love for each other is strong enough for that kind of test. Stefano has been pretty absent and nothing bad has happened to bring out EJ's darkness. Presumably it will at some point and I would bet EJ will eventually be tempted by his dark side again. It will be interesting to see if Sami runs for the hills like she has before or if she sticks around to help him back.
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