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Honeybees
Mar 31 2013, 11:15 AM
nightfan
Mar 30 2013, 02:44 PM
Honeybees
Mar 30 2013, 07:03 AM
If Nick was raped in prison and that's why he's doing what he's doing, it's still morally objectionable, because the show is sending a message the homophobia is "understandable" and people have good reasons for it. This week a prominent physician, professor and potential presidential candidate compared being gay to pedophilia and bestiality. I'm going out on a limb and say he doesn't think that because he was raped by a man. He thinks it because he's a bigot.

Show me a plotline where a female rape victim starts objecting to heterosexuality, and I'll start discussing whether this makes sense. Instead, female rape victims are usually blamed because they "didn't act like ladies" or drank or wore short skirt, and therefor were asking for it. That is equally bullshit, but I've never seen a soap do a plotline about it because that would be socially irresponsible.
I think some people are reading too much into this, and a correction: Ben Anderson did not compare gay marriage to bestiality. That was the spin though. He simply made a slipper slope argument about redefining marriage. See this article: http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-dr-ben-carson-shouldn%E2%80%99t-have-to-apologize-for-his-%E2%80%98bestiality%E2%80%99-remark/

But back on topic: What people sometimes forget is that this is Nick's story, just like Gabi's is Gabi's story. IF Nick became homophobic because of his time in prison, that's okay. It shouldn't suggest it's sending a message that's right or wrong. It's just Nick's story. It's what legitimately happened to him. Because in real life, people respond to things differently from others. And it's not always PC.
Re-Correction: It's not spin. If you put gay people on the same "slippery slope" as bestiality and pedophilia that is putting them in the same category. It is comparing them. That is not spin. That is calling him out on vile, casual bigotry, and it's perfectly okay to call him out for what he is. The rollback was spin.

And if you want to throw the "politically correct" label on me or writer or anyone else, I for one, wear it proudly. For me, it means respecting others. For me it means, not being ignorant. For me, it means that marginalized people are finally fighting back against the words and ideas the kept them from being full members of society. It's a wonderful thing, and there's no shame in it.
this is a very complicated issue. People have deep biblical beliefs about this and deep conspiracy-related beliefs about this general outlying issue.
I won't call anyone names and wish others wouldn't, just because they disagree. this isn't the board, though, and it's not the topic for this discussion. So I just want to agree to disagree.
And please remember 1984, thought police and all that other stuff. We're seeing that happen now. Without delving into the hot-button issue, I would caution that PC is something to be avoided. Diversity of views isn't diversity of views or tolerance when people, ironically, can't accept that some people are intolerant of their choices. it all goes the same way.
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