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Oct 6 2013, 11:02 AM
- February 12, 2008
I'm thinking of three separate occasions where he tried to get away from Stefano and he only went back willingly once (the 2008 time and the reasons why he went back have been covered). The other two times Stefano has forced him back into the family. And yes, EJ usually starts accepting and enjoying his relationship with Stefano again, because walking away from your family and the lifestyle that you know wouldn't be easy even if you hadn't been groomed to crave love and respect from someone like Stefano.
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- Oct 6 2013, 08:15 AM
It's also a sacrifice for him to have to place Stefano, whom he sees as threat to his family, back in a position of power. And since the majority of Sami's minor children are also EJ's, if Sami's making a sacrifice by letting them live in the mansion, EJ would be making the exact same sacrifice.
I never ej see Stefano as treat ej never really had problem with Stefano around the kids ej problem with Stefano with how he treated him when he thought is not his son everything ej gave to Stefano belonged to Stefano and ej was stupid enough to think Stefano will not take it back none of these he gave to Stefano had than few months.that why ej done does not seem sacrifice at all
This isn't the first time EJ has tried to get himself and his family out from under Stefano's thumb. Nobody should have a problem with Stefano's treatment of the kids, because he's good to them, when it comes to the day to day interactions. And I don't think you have to have possession of something for a certain length of time before giving it away becomes a sacrifice. If EJ won the lottery on Monday morning and used his winnings to buy Sami's freedom on Monday afternoon, that would still be a sacrifice.
Of the few times that Ej has tried to get away from Stefano, he's quickly gone back to being under Stefano out of his own accord. That I remember correctly, Stefano truly didn't have to hold a gun to his head to have Ej return to the fold, so while he's tried to do it before, he's never really succeeded and not because Stefano did something to oblige EJ, but because EJ wanted to be part of that again.
I don't consider what he did a huge sacrifice not because of the length of time but because he really didn't do much with what he had and it wasn't his to begin with. You know taking something from someone else and then being forced to return it is really not that big of a sacrifice..I don't consider him living with Stefano a sacrifice either...since that's where he pretty much has lived the majority of the time he's been in Salem. I would have seen a bigger sacrifice if Ej had worked real hard at building an empire of his own since Stefano disowned him. SOmething more legit and something that we actually SAW him work hard and long at acquiring....THEN he's forced to give THAT to Stefano in addition to the house and the power. Now THAT would be a true sacrifice, and it would have been even better if Sami had worked long and hard at buiilding that with him.....but to take something that was Stefano's away only to give it back in less then 6 months, living in the same house you lived in with Stefano before the take over, having Sami and the kids live there with you, when Sami actually didn't care about living there with Stefano a few months back to me doesn't constitute a sacrifice of any kind.
And it's not true that Sami didn't care about living there with Stefano a few months back. She initially refused to move in, and once she did move in, she was very concerned about how it would affect EJ and warned him that if he got pulled in again, she would take him and the kids and leave. They could have given EJ a different sacrifice to make, and I do agree that it would have been more compelling if he'd built his own empire, but we'll have to agree to disagree about whether unwillingly living with someone as dangerous (and I mean emotionally, not physically) as Stefano is a sacrifice or not.
Also, Stefano isn't just someone - he's a dangerous psychopath. We were told that the loss of his company weakened him. That would have been a positive event for the whole town. This isn't returning the wallet you stole from a harmless old man. It would be like the State seizing a career criminal's fortune, then handing it back over and setting him loose on society.
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, Oct 6 2013, 11:10 AM.