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Michael Fairman Interview w/ PT, GDH, and JR
Topic Started: Sep 9 2016, 01:52 PM (6,327 Views)
lysie


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Sep 9 2016, 10:37 PM
None of Orpheus' anger will be about anything that happened offscreen since 1987.
Where is this coming from? That's where you keep losing me.
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I like how DelHoyo described the differences between Xander, Clyde and Orpheus.
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PhoenixRising05
Sep 9 2016, 02:18 PM
This all sounds really good. The parts that stuck out for me were when all three of them talked about the scale of their plans and how it was like a "terrorist attack." It looks like they are building up to something huge. I wonder if whatever it is happens during sweeps and maybe that is where we get the scene with John where Drake gets hurt.
Do you now agree that this isn't a rip-off of what OLTL did?
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lysie
Sep 9 2016, 10:40 PM
lancer
Sep 9 2016, 10:37 PM
None of Orpheus' anger will be about anything that happened offscreen since 1987.
Where is this coming from? That's where you keep losing me.
It's coming from me. It's my opinion based on what I've seen so far on the show. Based on the interviews and articles I've read about this story. IMO, none of his motivations for going after these people will be about anything other than what happened 30 years ago. And 1979 if the death of his wife is brought up. But I don't claim to know this. It's how I think it will turn out. Does that clarify things for you?
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lysie


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Sep 10 2016, 09:42 AM
lysie
Sep 9 2016, 10:40 PM
lancer
Sep 9 2016, 10:37 PM
None of Orpheus' anger will be about anything that happened offscreen since 1987.
Where is this coming from? That's where you keep losing me.
It's coming from me. It's my opinion based on what I've seen so far on the show. Based on the interviews and articles I've read about this story. IMO, none of his motivations for going after these people will be about anything other than what happened 30 years ago. And 1979 if the death of his wife is brought up. But I don't claim to know this. It's how I think it will turn out. Does that clarify things for you?
No, I'm confused about why you keep mentioning something happening after 1987. Is that a spec somewhere?
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lysie
Sep 9 2016, 09:31 PM
I also doubt they'll mention the kids. That time on the island has really never been referred to since it aired.
Well, they'd have to acknowledge that Marlena also had missing years to do that.
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lancer
Sep 9 2016, 09:17 PM
But ALL the guy's motivation is about Roman. He is only battling Drake 's character is because he thinks he is Roman. He didn't hate Marlena. She was a tool to hurt Roman.

JT is certainly my third favorite Roman, but I'm not prepared to butcher the actual history to avoid involving him.
Unless they make it John that somehow killed him (his face was in the recreated FB after all), and Orpheus didn't give a fuck what his name was, just that he had a wife he could take away from him. That'd still be Orpheus-y to me. He wanted revenge for a real reason, not because little Roman Augustus had been a bully all-through middle school.

John doesn't remember that time, they can easily make it that he was there in addition to Roman, they just never saw each other. It's a retcon, but it's nowhere near a big WTF moment for me at least. And Stockholm is one of my all time favorite stories.
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PAUL: It was very worrisome! (Laughs) It’s amazing what you can get away with if you have a nice suit, a decent hair cut, and you smile and treat Nicole (Arianne Zucker) well. (Laughs) If you are remotely friendly to Nicole, then fans will let you get away with murder. (Laughs).

:lol: Loved this response! Great interview! I am HERE for Xander's Nicole lust. :rockon:
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Sindacco
Sep 10 2016, 01:17 AM
I like how DelHoyo described the differences between Xander, Clyde and Orpheus.
Me too & I thought he was completely spot-on.
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lysie
Sep 10 2016, 09:51 AM
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Sep 10 2016, 09:42 AM
lysie
Sep 9 2016, 10:40 PM

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It's coming from me. It's my opinion based on what I've seen so far on the show. Based on the interviews and articles I've read about this story. IMO, none of his motivations for going after these people will be about anything other than what happened 30 years ago. And 1979 if the death of his wife is brought up. But I don't claim to know this. It's how I think it will turn out. Does that clarify things for you?
No, I'm confused about why you keep mentioning something happening after 1987. Is that a spec somewhere?
Just message board speculation. People suggesting that something happened after he left the show that, for example, fueled this hatred he has for marlena now. Nothing I've read as a spoiler or anything like that.
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lysie


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Sep 10 2016, 05:32 PM
lysie
Sep 10 2016, 09:51 AM
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No, I'm confused about why you keep mentioning something happening after 1987. Is that a spec somewhere?
Just message board speculation. People suggesting that something happened after he left the show that, for example, fueled this hatred he has for marlena now. Nothing I've read as a spoiler or anything like that.
Oh, okay. Gotcha. I don't think that will happen either, and I also wouldn't want it to. I could possibly buy something happening between him losing her and Stefano getting her I guess, but I don't think it's necessary.
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Sep 10 2016, 02:27 PM
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Sep 9 2016, 09:17 PM
But ALL the guy's motivation is about Roman. He is only battling Drake 's character is because he thinks he is Roman. He didn't hate Marlena. She was a tool to hurt Roman.

JT is certainly my third favorite Roman, but I'm not prepared to butcher the actual history to avoid involving him.
Unless they make it John that somehow killed him (his face was in the recreated FB after all), and Orpheus didn't give a fuck what his name was, just that he had a wife he could take away from him. That'd still be Orpheus-y to me. He wanted revenge for a real reason, not because little Roman Augustus had been a bully all-through middle school.

John doesn't remember that time, they can easily make it that he was there in addition to Roman, they just never saw each other. It's a retcon, but it's nowhere near a big WTF moment for me at least. And Stockholm is one of my all time favorite stories.
Obviously, mileage varies. John happening to be in Stockholm at the same time would be classic WTF to me. Forget his face, Orpheus calls him Roman in the flashback.

Roman Augustus Brady killed his wife. This is about who killed his wife. All his late 1986 actions were fueled by that. Everything he was doing was payback for that.

Now, early on he did do other stuff. He was going to get those tattoos to get those bonds and he didn't care who he had to kill to do it. However, that was business. What he did to Roman was personal and obsessive.

If they officially retcon it that John killed Rebecca, ridiculous as I think the retcon would be, than it makes perfect sense that he go after John and Roman is out of it.

Again, I don't think that is what they are going to do. Based on the interview, I think they'll reference the wife, act like John killed her and not reference John ever being Roman or Roman's involvement in Stockholm.

If that works for you, good for you, enjoy it. It wouldn't work for me. That is not my idea of honoring history. Hey, maybe they will surprise me and do something different. If they do, I'll have no problem admitting I was wrong. Forgive me if I don't hold my breath, though. Their track record is not good. It's downright laughable with John Black 's history.
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Sep 10 2016, 05:39 PM
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Sep 10 2016, 05:32 PM
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Sep 10 2016, 09:51 AM

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Just message board speculation. People suggesting that something happened after he left the show that, for example, fueled this hatred he has for marlena now. Nothing I've read as a spoiler or anything like that.
Oh, okay. Gotcha. I don't think that will happen either, and I also wouldn't want it to. I could possibly buy something happening between him losing her and Stefano getting her I guess, but I don't think it's necessary.
Damn that Stefano got around. Got Hope from ernesto, Steve from Lawrence and marlena from Orpheus.
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

DJsMommy
Sep 10 2016, 02:52 PM
PAUL: It was very worrisome! (Laughs) It’s amazing what you can get away with if you have a nice suit, a decent hair cut, and you smile and treat Nicole (Arianne Zucker) well. (Laughs) If you are remotely friendly to Nicole, then fans will let you get away with murder. (Laughs).

:lol: Loved this response! Great interview! I am HERE for Xander's Nicole lust. :rockon:


Nicole fans don't play :D
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

This what comes in my head when I think of this storyline but come on too much going on in the world for scenes like this on tv right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MROGUPaczEo
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I wonder if Xander may kidnap Nicole?

I'm also wondering if any of the kids will go missing?

I hope this storyline plays out well and doesn't end in a disaster like others have.
Edited by DCgirl, Sep 10 2016, 07:35 PM.
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Sep 10 2016, 05:51 PM
Again, I don't think that is what they are going to do. Based on the interview, I think they'll reference the wife, act like John killed her and not reference John ever being Roman or Roman's involvement in Stockholm.
I think that's what they are going to do too. I also got that feeling when they showed the short flashback of Marlena asking Orpheus to let her go. Roman was mentioned right before and after by both of them in that scene but that didn't make it into the flashback. It's probably to early to judge but I don't get why they are so afraid to acknowledge that John was thought to be Roman for a few years.
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Mrs. H and Mr. B

DJsMommy
Sep 10 2016, 02:52 PM
PAUL: It was very worrisome! (Laughs) It’s amazing what you can get away with if you have a nice suit, a decent hair cut, and you smile and treat Nicole (Arianne Zucker) well. (Laughs) If you are remotely friendly to Nicole, then fans will let you get away with murder. (Laughs).

:lol: Loved this response! Great interview! I am HERE for Xander's Nicole lust. :rockon:
Good God, your avi. :wub:
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Thank you JCP.

They were denying it back 2006 when Stephen came on show and got his memory back. No talk about John used to be Roman and the only Roman that Steve knew before he died on show was Ro-John. The only reference I think that Steve made about Roman 1 was when he and Ro-John were about to leave for Stockholm and he told him about seeing someone on a gurney in the hospital in Miami. He said they were going to do surgery on the guy I think and he left the impression that he knew Ro-John was Roman.
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I think it's curious Orpheus already knows John isn't Roman. And calling him agent black was interesting too. Lysie suggested earlier in the week maybe he know John wasn't Roman the whole time. I could see them going that route.

Either way it for sure sounds like they stick with (enter character with Drake's face) having killed the wife
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