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Monday, September 12th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 11 2016, 12:43 PM (11,481 Views)
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Sep 12 2016, 02:48 PM
Who the heck are Titus and Stavros?
Cassadines? Lol
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Sep 12 2016, 02:48 PM
Who the heck are Titus and Stavros?

Kate did mention to Victor that he was a loose end. So I'm quite sure he'll pop somewhere. lol

No idea who Stavrous is.
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Sep 12 2016, 02:48 PM
Who the heck are Titus and Stavros?
Cassadines? Lol

That's who pop into my head. lol
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Director: Albert Alarr
Scriptwriter: Melissa Salmons



Segment 1 Shawn - Hong Kong! Claire - I'm supposed to go meet Grandma so I'll be back here in like an hour. She goes to Shawn - Just listen and don't blow up. Just think. She leaves. Shawn - So you're going on a trip. Belle - It's a job offer. Big opportunity. Shawn - In Hong Kong. Belle - Yeah. Chad is cleaning out DiMera Enterprises. We're going to go and make sure the business is legitimate and there's a very special problem in Hong Kong named Mr. Shin so Chad wants me to relocate for a while. Shawn - How long? Belle - I don't know. A year maybe. Shawn - Well Bon Voyage. He turns to leave. Belle - Shawn. Shawn - Belle you made this huge decision and you didn't even think about discussing it with me first.

Orpheus paces in their cell. The whole town was smug. How is it possible that an entire city can have nothing but smug people. Clyde - The place hasn't changed a bit. Orpheus - Roman Brady, the man shot and killed my wife and could still act like I owed him an apology. Clyde - He hasn't changed either. Orpheus - I've waited 20 years to wipe that smug grin off his face. Now he's just down the road. Clyde - So close and yet so far. Orpheus - I'd take out Roman for Rebecca. He's have to be first and then ... then I'd take out Marlena Evans and John Black.

Paul and John jog through the gates into the park. John - You know you're either great for my circulatory system or you're going to kill me! Paul - Don't play with me old man, you more than keep up. John - So do you especially at Black Patch. You're a hell of a PI kid. Listen I know you have some doubts about the kind of work here but I never want you to doubt your ability, okay. Paul - Thanks. John - And don't feel for a second that you've got to stay on just because of me, okay. Paul - No I wouldn't. I've been doing some thinking and the truth is if you weigh the bad things with the good ... things like finding Brady's son, it's no contest. I'm in. John is pleased.

Brady gets off the elevator at the hospital and sees Victor by the coffee station. Vic - Thanks for coming. Brady - Are you ready to confess? Vic - What? Brady - You said this was about Tate's kidnapping. Vic - Oh for God's sake Brady I DID NOT kidnap your son. Brady turns to leave - That's what I thought. Vic - And I can prove it. Brady stops. Vic adds - That's why I asked you down here. I have something I want to show you.

Kate is in the square. She sees Theresa pushing the stroller. Theresa bends to pick up a toy - You are just as reckless as I was little man. Lets ... She looks up and sees Kate. I heard what you did and there's no way in hell I'm going to let you get away with it. Kate - I have no idea what you're talking ... Theresa - The hell you don't! I knew you were low. I knew you could be despicable. Kate - It was nothing personal. I didn't want to hurt you ... Theresa yells - Not personal. Kate - I'm sorry. Theresa - You called me unreliable and said I had to go back to the drawing board. Kate - What! Theresa - You told Mauricio at fashion week in Milan and you blabbed to Haute Couture monthly that DJ Wear didn't launch because my designs weren't ready. You know that's not why we were delayed. How dare you take advantage of what happened to spread lies about me. Kate - Actually I had nothing to do with ... Theresa - Don't start okay. She attends to Tate who is fussing. Kate - Theresa I'm glad that you and Brady got your baby back. Theresa's cell rings. Yeah, what's up? I sent the mockups last week. Just tell ? I'll call him directly. Kate looks at Tate - Hi sweetie, remember me?


Segment 2 Shawn - You know what, this is great. I mean how often does somebody get an opportunity like this so early in their career. Belle - Shawn ... Shawn - No Belle, I'm proud of you. I'm proud. Belle - I tried to call you. Check your messages. I even went down to the station looking for you. Shawn - To tell me? Belle - No because I want your blessing. As great as this is my family does come first so can we please just talk about this now. Shawn - Okay, sure. Let's talk about it. How soon 'til you leave. Belle - Soon but I didn't expect you and Claire to jump that fast. Shawn - Wait, Claire's going too! Belle - No, she's too concerned with her career. Shawn smiles - And you're surprised. Belle - No actually. I told her she could stay but I did get her to agree to go to Salem U. Shawn - Wow, that must have been quite the battle. You've got skills Belle. Well this is good then because I'll be able to spend more time with my daughter. Yeah, it's good. Belle - But I thought you ... wow. Claire thinks you're coming with me. Shawn - I bet she does. She wants to get turned loose. Belle - No it's not like that. She knows her grandparents are going to be watching over her. Shawn you know how much she wants her parents together. I know this means you'd have to leave Salem PD but there's so many opportunities in Hong Kong for private security, cyber security. You said you weren't even happy at your job. Shawn - I'm going through a little bit of a rough patch over there, okay. Belle - So? Shawn - I thought we were going to move back here to start over in Salem with our family, with our daughter. Belle - So that's a no.

Brady - How do you prove you didn't kidnap my son? Vic - I found the real kidnapper. Brady - Who? Vic - Titus Drew. Brady - The drug dealer. Vic - The one who supplied the drug used on Theresa. Brady - Why would he kidnap my son? Vic - He's had a long standing grudge against the Kiriakis family. He thought his business .... Brady - I've never had any dealings with this man okay. That's you and apparently Deimos. Vic - And who's suffering now! He pitted me and Deimos against each other, turned you against me. Brady - Don't you have coffee with this guy all the time. Vic - That's why the snake agreed to meet with me. I confronted him and he admitted to everything. Brady - Out of nowhere? Vic - He was encouraged to talk. Brady - By who? Stavros, Nicholas. Vic - I had him dead to rights. He's a low level punk. There's no way he could pull off this sham after we got on to him. Brady - Well I'm going to need to see this creep. Is he here? Is he in the hospital? Vic - I'll take you to him right now.

Theresa has her back to the stroller as she continues talking on her cell. There's no point in me calling until we track down ... Kate crouches down and smiles at Tate. She recalls talking to him as he lies in a crib in a hotel room. Sorry to take you away from your home little one. Just consider it good training. You're a Kiriakis. She hands him a toy. Lauren's going to take really good care of you. You're going to have everything you need. You're too young to remember this. It's nothing like with Billy and Austin, I'm not trying to take you away from your parents and make them think you're dead. You're going to be home before you know it. That's really pathetic. I hate that I'm doing this. I hate it but I hate Victor and Deimos more. Theresa - Yeah I'll take care of it first thing in the morning. Thanks. Theresa sees Kate watching over Tate. He should be screaming to hell. He's not comfortable around strangers anymore so why is he alright with you of all people.


Segment 3 Belle - I know this is bad timing and it's really fast and it's really hard to move just to support me. Shawn - You did when you came to Maine for me. Belle - Yeah and when I got there I made a lot of bad decisions. Shawn - And I was nowhere to be found. Let's don't do that again. Belle - Okay. Shawn - One of the things that I did learn is that I need to pay more attention to the things that you want. Belle - Listen I don't want you to feel hostage to me. Shawn - I don't! I am proud of you. Belle - And I love you and I would never again ... she's crying. Shawn - I know. That's not what I mean. Why? I just ... Belle - You know how long the DiMera's have tortured my family and yours and this feels like the first time in my entire life that they can finally be neutralized. That they can become not just harmless but good and I could do that. I mean it feels like why I went to law school, to be ready for right now, this moment. Shawn - That's big. Her cell rings. Hey Chad I thought we were going to talk tomorrow or the next day. I don't know. Let me call you back. That was Chad. He said there's a deal to be brokered in Hong Kong right now so if I'm going to take the job I have to leave tonight. I need to call him back and give him an answer. Just say the word Shawn and it's off. What should I tell him?

Vic and Brady are in the morgue standing in front of a body bag. Brady - You killed Titus. Vic - Titus attacked me. Stavros tried to pull him off. They got into a big fist fight. Titus pulled a gun. Stavros had to take him down. Brady - I want to see him. Vic unzips the body bag.

Clyde is sitting at a table in the common room playing solitaire. Xander comes in. Clyde - Well look who's here. Where the hell have you been. Xander - Did you miss me? Clyde - Oh something awful. Xander - See I'm just not social like you are Weston. Sometimes I need time to myself to think. Clyde - About what you're going to do when you get out of here. Like maybe open an orphanage. Xander - I've been thinking about how satisfying it would be to get back at those little bitches. Clyde looks around - Which little bitches would that be. Xander - Nicole Walker and Theresa Donovan. They are going to get what they deserve.

Kate - Well what can I say, babies and puppies love me. Theresa - That's hard to believe. Kate - Theresa what I said, I'm glad that you have your son back and I hope that you and Brady and Tate will be happy together. She leaves. Theresa - Hey did the wicked witch scare you? Well she was right about one thing, we are going to be very, very happy together.


Segment 4 Shawn - Take the job. Belle hugs him - Thank you, thank you, thank you. You won't regret this. This is going to be an amazing new start for us. Shawn - I'm not coming with you Belle. Belle - What! No I told you I'm not going to go without you. Shawn - I don't want to hold you back again. I don't want you to stay in Salem for me. Belle - I'll be fine here. Shawn - I don't want you to be fine. I want you to be great. I want you to be going after something you love so go. Belle - I won't let us end over this. Shawn - We're not going to end. Come on, it's one year, right? It's a year. We've been through much worse and much longer. When you get back we'll see where we're at. Belle goes into his arms and cries. Shawn - I want you to knock 'em dead. Kiss. He leaves. Belle cries.

Clyde - About you getting back at those little bitches, you know it's not likely to happen with you hanging around the prison waiting room. Xander - I'm not going to be in here forever. Clyde - You sure about that? I mean you are a psychopathic murderer. Xander - Alleged! Attempted. Clyde chuckles. Orpheus comes in - Let's go gentlemen, the transport van's here.

Roman is now at the hospital with Vic and Brady. So Titus confessed. Vic - My man Stavros heard the whole thing. Brady - That's pretty convenient. Roman - We did a search of Titus Drew's last known. We found travel information for Lauren and a payment trail of every place they stayed. We can actually tie his computer to the Chopin Group. Would have been enough to convict him without the confession. Now Victor I need you to come down to the station, give us a formal statement. Vic - I'll get down there as soon as I can. Roman - Appreciate it. He leaves. Brady - I don't really know what to say to you. Vic - Sure you do. Brady - I'm sorry. I'm sorry I accused you of doing something so heinous. I had no right to think that Grandfather and I'm so sorry. I should have believed you. I didn't believe a word you said. Vic - Brady you were not in your right mind. You suffered enough. We both have. Let's move on. And if you need some ways to show that you're still having remorse, I'll help you out there. You can start with some visits to my great grandson. Brady - I can do that. They hug. Sorry. Theresa is there. Did I miss something?


Segment 5 Gabi sees Paul sitting at a table in the square. Hey! Paul - Gabi, hey. Are you doing some last minute shopping. Gabi - Yeah I've been at it all day. I'm styling a new client. Are you preoccupied, PI business? Paul - Dad was having someone tailed and now that person turned up dead. Gabi - Oh my. Is that good or bad? Paul - I don't know. Let's find out. Gabi - Does that mean you get to knock off work now? Paul - I suppose. Gabi - Do you want to have a drink before I have to run back for story, bath and bedtime. Paul - Sure. Who's with Arianna now? Gabi - Sonny. She just misses him so much. We're just so happy that he's here. Isn't it great to have him back.

Shawn is sitting on the park bench near the square. He recalls when he and Belle reconnected. Claire joins him. Hey Dad, this is completely nuts. Go to Hong Kong. Shawn - No, I can't. Claire - Why! Seriously you can't be worried about me. Shawn - No I'm not worried about you. I just don't want to leave you alone. Claire - OMG, please! I'm related to half the town, I'll never be alone. Shawn - You don't need to sound so annoyed by that. Claire - Just sayin'. Why wouldn't you go to Hong Kong? Shawn - Claire it's not just because of how things went down. Your Mom needs to take this job. She needs to and I'm just not sure we're at place right now where I can follow her out there when I don't have a plan of my own. We just started putting things back together. Claire - So. Shawn - So maybe things just aren't meant to be.

Belle is with her parents at a table at Club TBD. John - Alright, enough of the mystery, what's the occasion? Belle - Well I think Mom already knows. John - Knows? Marlena - I didn't know you decided for sure. Belle - I am taking the job in Hong Kong. Marlena - And is Shawn going? Belle - No. John - Wait, wait a minute here. What do you mean you're taking the job in Hong Kong. Why would you ... how long are you going to be gone? Belle - That I don't know. Maybe a year. But I'm going to help Chad clean out DiMera Enterprises. John scoffs - That's going to take more than a year. Belle - Well the Hong Kong part may not take longer than that. John - Yeah, right. Alright, so when are you leaving? Belle - Tonight. Both John and Marlena exclaim - What! Belle - I just found out about that part but yes. Chad has the jet fuelled and ready for me. John - And Claire, what's going on there? Belle - She's going to stay here and she agreed to go to Salem U so I'm really hopeful that's going to give her some structure and make her rethink her career choice. Marlena - I'm not sure I would count on that. Belle - No but she'll be around people her own age. You two will watch after her, right? John - Yeah you can count on that. Marlena - Absolutely we will. John - Sorry. I'm sorry about this whole thing with you and Shawn. Belle - Yeah me too. She raises her glass - To new beginnings. John - Yeah to our beautiful and our brilliant daughter. John hugs her - I love you. Belle - I love you too Dad. Marlena hugs her - I love you more. Family hug.

Theresa - Victor I'm so sorry and I'm really grateful to you for finding the real kidnapper. Vic - I'd do anything for Brady and Tate. We're family. Brady - We're all family. Where is Tate? Theresa - I took him home. Emma told me that you guys were here. Vic - I'd love to seem him. Seems like it's been ages. Theresa - Well you can see him tomorrow at the wedding. Vic - You're inviting me to the wedding? Theresa - It would mean a lot to Brady. Brady - Yeah it would. Theresa - And like you said, you're family so should I set another place setting? Vic - No. Oh I'll come to the wedding but on one condition.

Xander, Clyde and Orpheus are in the prison transport van. The prison guard closes his fist and covers it with his other hand.


Segment 6 Claire - Seriously! You and Mom not meant to be. You are literally in the dictionary under meant to be. Shawn - Oh come on, you know better than that. Claire - No, you two are like the greatest love song ever. Remember Munich? Shawn - What? Claire - We were all in Munich at an outdoor café and there was a band. Shawn - Yeah. You remember that! You were so young. Claire - Yeah well you and Mom started singing along in German. Shawn - Which we didn't even speak btw. Claire - That didn't stop you. You guys were laughing and singing nonsense and then you looked at each other and it was everything. You were the music. I'll spend my whole life looking for that look. Shawn - Look honey sometimes that's just not all that matters. Claire - I don't know. Are you sure about that. That also happened not here. You guys are great adventurers together. Why would you ever want that to stop.

Vic - I understand you're planning on having this joyous occasion at City Hall. Brady - We wanted simple and fast. Vic - Well how about you use the mansion instead. I don't know about simple but we certainly have had some quickie weddings there. Theresa - I thought the mansion was gone. Vic - It's all in the family. Deimos has asked Maggie and me to move back in. He's agreed that we can hold the wedding there and he'll even disappear for the day. Brady - When the hell did you have the time to clear all that? Vic - Well I know you'd change your mind after your heard about Titus so I pre-planned. That house needs a good wedding every few years. Theresa - Yeah but it's so soon. Vic - You had a theme picked out for City Hall and we're ruining it? Theresa - No. No I just ... I don't know. Brady what do you want. You lived there for years. Brady - Tell Maggie to start making some bows. Theresa - But not too big. Vic - Maggie will be thrilled. Brady hugs Vic. Theresa smiles.

John - Worst party ever. Marlena - What's wrong with us! John - Our daughter's leaving town again Doc. Marlena - Yeah. You know what, Brady's living his dreams. She raises her glass - To Brady and Theresa. John lifts his glass - To Brady ... Marlena gives him the 'look'. Brady - I'm getting there. She makes him happy. She's trying to be a good Mom. Marlena - Okay, I'll take that for right now. She raises her glass again - To our rip-roaring wedding. Isn't that what you promised me? John - Oh yeah, I haven't forgotten. I'm just working on a few things right now. Marlena - Oh, I see, okay. Should I put a date on my calendar? John - Not just yet. Just let me get a few things set up. Marlena - What's going on with you? John - Oh come on Doc! What would a wedding in Salem be without a little surprise. Marlena smiles.

Paul - I know Sonny's happy to see Ari again. She'll always be his daughter in his mind. Gabi - That's not what I meant. Paul - I know. Look Sonny and I will always be friends and I'm happy for that. So you're styling now? Gabi - Yeah, Sonny actually suggested I help Chad. He needed a new look for many reasons. After Abigail things kind of fell apart and now he's got a new thing at work. I don't know, we'll see. I mean if I'm good at it than yes maybe I'll be an Image Consultant. Paul - That would be much better than modelling. I remember you were always the last one out the door. Gabi - That's because you were right there with me. How's working with your Dad? Paul - I like it. You know we found each other late in life so it's great to spend any time you can. Gabi - Yeah I felt like that with Eduardo too but now he's gone again. Paul - I'm sorry. Gabi - It's not his fault this time. He's just trying to protect us. He had some threats from his past. After the kidnapping last winter he just didn't want to take any chances. Paul - So he's just gone. Gabi - Yeah until he can make sure it's safe for us.

Eduardo (in a prison guard uniform in the transport van) clenches his fist and attacks a prisoner and puts him in a choke hold. Clyde - Guard! Eduardo - Just to be clear you will be dead if you ever threaten my family again. The van crashes.


Segment 7 The van has crashed into the woods. Eduardo grabs the guy he had attacked and slaps his face. Hey man, wake up. Wake up. You're okay. He crawls out of the back of the van.

Belle is back at the townhouse with Claire. They're hugging. Belle - And you'll call me when? Claire - Every day. Belle - Okay. And you'll send me your schedule as soon as you have it and I will see you on mid-term break. Claire - You'll come back? Belle - Or you can come to Hong Kong or we could meet half way. Claire - I'm really sorry about Dad. Belle - Yeah me too. Claire - Okay, I'll go get the car. Yeah I'm sure Chad would send a limo but I want to drive you. Belle - Thanks honey. Belle looks around the townhouse. She picks up the photo album and leafs through it. Shawn comes in with a garment bag over his shoulder. Since when do you pack lighter than I do. Belle - Are you ... Shawn - Are you ready for an adventure? Belle goes into his arms.

Roman is with John and Marlena now at Club TBD. John - So that pretty much wraps the case. It sounds like there's enough there to convict Titus in court. Roman - Yeah if we was still alive. John - Yeah I know. Paul just told me. Roman - Victor's guy said it was self-defence. There's no way to confirm that or challenge it but knowing Titus's rep I can see it. John - Yeah, he's a real hot head. Roman gets a call. Brady.

Kate lets Vic into the Martin house. Kate - And they all bought it? Vic - I'm positive. Kate - You won't need to provide a body. Did you kill someone? I don't even want to know. Vic - I paid off one of the technicians at the morgue. He used a body that's been in a very bad accident. Titus is on his way overseas permanently. Kate - That's a loose end. Vic - He knows what will happen to him if he shows up here again. Relax, it's done. Kate - What about Lauren? Vic - She will swear that Titus hired her and I will make sure her case lands on Judge Pierce's docket. She'll be well taken care of. Kate - All's well that ends well. Vic - Nice try. You think I'm going to forgive and forget. Kate - Never. But you'll also remember mutually assured destruction. I can do as much damage to you and Deimos as you can do to me. Vic gets a call. Yes.

Theresa and Brady are walking hand in hand through the square. Theresa - Belle's moving to Hong Kong. Brady - It's a work opportunity that she wanted to grab. Shawn's going too. We'll see them in the fall though. Theresa - Yeah but I'm sorry they're going to miss the wedding. Brady - Yeah me too. Having my Grandfather there is going to soften the blow a little bit. Thank you for that. Theresa - Oh hey as long as he doesn't declare war we're good. Brady - That's a wedding theme. Theresa - We can still get it printed on the napkins. Brady - Make love, not war. Kiss. His cell rings. Well speak of the devil. Hi Granddad. How the hell did that happen!

Roman - Okay where were they headed. John's cell rings. Roman - Did they close the road? John - John Black. He stares at Marlena. They both look concerned.
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Sep 12 2016, 02:52 PM
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Sep 12 2016, 02:48 PM
Who the heck are Titus and Stavros?
Cassadines? Lol
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Sep 12 2016, 02:52 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Sep 12 2016, 02:48 PM
Who the heck are Titus and Stavros?
Cassadines? Lol
OMG LOL I though the same thing!

I know Titus was the drug dealer... and I am pretty sure Stavros is a body guard of Victors.
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Wow, so I'm shocked they showed Kate feeling guilty about kidnapping Tate. And bringing up Billie and Austin. That was my biggest complaint about Kate being the kidnapper. I still hate the idea, but the fact that the writers thought to include those scenes means a lot to me.
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Another good show today. It's been a great first 5 episodes. Some WTFery but that was expected. The problem with the past year is so much took place offscreen and so many characters got almost no focus that now that they finally are (like JJ and Gabi, for example) everything feels so far out of left field. I will deal with it though because it's clear we are going back to the right way to write a soap where multiple stories get focus.

I am VERY happy they gave us the Kate flashbacks and scenes with Theresa today. I give credit to Quan for that. We know he likes Kate and has a great knowledge of the characters. I think his influence was prevalent there as he had Kate acknowledge the issues many have with her kidnapping Tate. She mentioned Billie and Austin and how she would care for him and this wouldn't be like that. She showed remorse and even was nice to Theresa and it was obvious she hated doing what she did but her thirst for revenge was just too strong. It's still not the way this story should've gone but at least they brought up Kate's history and showed her conflicted. That is how you bring a character back from the edge a bit. This would've never happened if Quan wasn't there. No way

The Victor/Brady/Theresa stuff was the biggest WTF-ery of the day. Victor and Theresa were just too damn chummy but I guess it's all about just wrapping this up and moving on. You can fanwank it and say they were just being civil because of all that had happened and neither wanted to push their limits. Whatever. The kidnapping was a story that started out so good but it's obvious the writing transition killed it. Oh well.

The Shelle stuff was fantastic. This was a much better exit than Dena gave them in 2008 IMO even if Shawn got nothing with his family. It just felt less rushed even though it was. I guess it's just that they got better scenes together. BB has grown alot. I really like the writing these two got in their final few months. They need to be on this canvas.

The Eduardo twist was nice. It makes the escape a bit less far-fetched. There really was no plan to escape, which is interesting. I kept wondering when they would start plotting instead of discussing and they never did. So, the fact that Eduardo causes them to escape by accident is a much better way to do this given how it's played and all. Adds another layer and ties story together.

My favorite aspect of this is that they aren't coming up with some dumb rewrite to the Orpheus stuff. I can understand why they may consider it like many fans but why do it? Because of JT? Roman killed his wife. You shouldn't take him out of the story. I'm not a fan of JT as Roman either but, to me, why make something more complicated than it has to be. You can have him take Roman out and still make the story central to J&M and S&K. People complain when shows rewrite history and there really is no need to do it here. Glad they stuck by the backstory.

Love that they are finally doing something with characters like Gabi, Paul, JJ, and Sonny too. It's great to see them all interacting. The show feels tight and connected again.
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Sep 12 2016, 03:10 PM
Wow, so I'm shocked they showed Kate feeling guilty about kidnapping Tate. And bringing up Billie and Austin. That was my biggest complaint about Kate being the kidnapper. I still hate the idea, but the fact that the writers thought to include those scenes means a lot to me.
Agreed.

It makes me think Quan is there to do what he can to try to justify and make sense out of Dena's plot-driven crap. I can just see Quan going, "Damn it, Dena. Did it have to be her? Kate would have major issues with this. I have to get a scene in there to show that."

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Also can one of the wedding surprises John had planned be Eric coming for the wedding? There has to be a wedding free day pass right?
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Sep 12 2016, 02:20 PM
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LOL! Eh, on him accepting the twins as his sibs... That hardly matters when he still ignores Marlena's existence, still calls her Marlena when he bumps into her once in a blue moon. And eh, on his ability to forgive.. It took him forever to forgive John, and didn't do it until his girlfriend put him in a coma.
It matters bigtime to me, lol. Yes, it would be my preference for him to be in J/M's orbit and acting like they are his parents, because they, you know, are. But pushing the reset button to eliminate the bromance with Eric and have him make fun of Sami when she cries over missing her small child makes Brady a vastly less interesting and rootable person to me.
I think I missed all that LOL
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Sep 12 2016, 03:34 PM
Also can one of the wedding surprises John had planned be Eric coming for the wedding? There has to be a wedding free day pass right?
I never thought I'd say this, but if they can't get Greg Vaughan back, they need to go ahead and recast Eric, and do it soon. He's just too needed on the show as a character, especially now, and his current situation gives him a ton of built-in conflict with a lot of people in Salem, not to mention plenty of internal conflict to play with as a character.
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Watching episode. Is that Eduardo as the guard with Orpheus, Xander and Clyde??? My copy of this episode is so dark so I can't really tell.
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Sep 12 2016, 02:24 PM
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Sep 12 2016, 01:58 PM
I totally couldn't see what was going on with that prison escape or whatever. I understand it's night time but that doesn't mean they can't light it up so I can actually see what's happening.

Who did Eduardo attack?
He attacked a random inmate who happened to be in the transport van, saying something along the lines of never to go after his family again. When he attacked him, then Orpheus took the distraction to attack the driver.
Thank you!

So did he kill the guy? Was it the guy that's been threatening him?

Seems odd that Eduardo would do that. Especially with other prisoners on the van and the chances of himself being caught. Why not do his sniper assassin thing and kill him as he walked toward the van, or walked into the jail at his transfer point, from a safe distance ? But, I need to stop using logic. I guess they had to find a way for the three to escape. Kind of disappointing that it was only an opportunity knocks kind of escape and not a planned escape... Or having Orpheus kill the driver so they could escape. Not sure why they had to involve Eduardo kind of randomly.

Still wish I had been able to actually see it happen.
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Sep 12 2016, 01:58 PM
I totally couldn't see what was going on with that prison escape or whatever. I understand it's night time but that doesn't mean they can't light it up so I can actually see what's happening.

Who did Eduardo attack?
I think he attacked Xander??? I couldn't really tell either. I was more surprised he was even in there because I didn't know he was going to be or that we were going to see him again so soon lol
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Sep 12 2016, 03:10 PM
Wow, so I'm shocked they showed Kate feeling guilty about kidnapping Tate. And bringing up Billie and Austin. That was my biggest complaint about Kate being the kidnapper. I still hate the idea, but the fact that the writers thought to include those scenes means a lot to me.
It doesn't really make much sense to me. Seems pointless to have her being reflective after the deed, LOL maybe if it had been something she did that made sense and wasn't stupid as hell, and maybe something she had to do for a good reason but it wasn't.
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Since 2016 every crime committed with the exception of the death of Ava (where Steve just automatically took the blame himself) had the guilty parties framing others for their crimes. Guess no one in Salem for the most part has a conscience. Either that or one has to admit the writers tend to be lazy!
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

Eduardo attacked the fourth prisoner in the van - some guy with a beard sitting next to Xander. One of the articles about the Fall preview said the driver was injured but that a fourth prisoner was killed. Whether Eduardo killed him or he died in the accident they didn't say (or show).
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So I take it Titus will be making a return visit soon? lol
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I really wish this show would play a fuller conflict for John and Marlena with Theresa. Their relationship with Shane and Kim should given them pause as should Theresa's with Brady. But at the end of the day, they should be able to acknowledge that Theresa is untrustworthy and that should also given them pause.
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