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Thursday, September 15th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 14 2016, 06:50 PM (10,244 Views)
DCgirl
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I love JJ and Gabi but I really hope they fix this mess. It is so contrived. I guess this is what happens when you never gave a couple a storyline until now. Now nothing makes sense. SMH
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Supergirlx2
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Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 12:52 PM
Memo to Rafe: if Kate's safety can be your personal project, Aiden's safety can be Hope's personal project.
Heaven forbid Rafe allow Hope to do anything herself. He's allowed to have side projects & whatnot, but she isn't allowed to do anything without his approval or his presence/inclusion. This has been a constant point since Rafe decided Hope needed to cover up having murdered Stefano & that he'd help her.
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Inara Serra
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 12:58 PM
Shoot, Clyde, shoot!

Why do the villains keep teasing me like this? Follow through for once, would you?
Seriously. They have a gun but instead they choose to talk their victim to death...
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Rosebud
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LOL, Fauxman must be lost on the interstate. Thank you soap gods!

Chad doesn't seem too upset or busy to care for his son.

Green is the color that projects confidence... Or leprechaunfidence.
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pagraves
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Observation: VJ is a better actress if she doesn't speak.
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missmeka1987_
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

meh episode Good to see the full pub back though..
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Rosebud
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These teens are too immature to be in college, obviously.

Why is Chase in his pajamas?

Note to Clyde: When you're a known escaped convict don't walk around in public wearing your prison clothes.

I don't know why Kate's so scared. It's not like she's not fully armed to protect herself with those fingernails.
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Cimz


Supergirlx2
Sep 15 2016, 01:06 PM
Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 12:52 PM
Memo to Rafe: if Kate's safety can be your personal project, Aiden's safety can be Hope's personal project.
Heaven forbid Rafe allow Hope to do anything herself. He's allowed to have side projects & whatnot, but she isn't allowed to do anything without his approval or his presence/inclusion. This has been a constant point since Rafe decided Hope needed to cover up having murdered Stefano & that he'd help her.
In isolation, it's not at all unreasonable to say Hope shouldn't be the one looking out for Aiden under the circumstances, especially since Hope apparently wasn't set on doing it herself as long as she knew it got done.

But it was striking to me that there was no corresponding commentary on Rafe/Kate, especially since Rafe spoke to Jordan in this episode, so it ought to be fresh in his mind that Kate sicced Clyde on the stepdaughter he abused in order to punish Jordan for loving Rafe.

Rafe has always been like this. When he was a new character, he spent a lot of time demanding that Sami tell him everything about her past, but he yelled at her if she ever breathed a whisper about his dead fiancee.
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Supergirlx2
Sep 15 2016, 01:04 PM
peaches179
Sep 15 2016, 12:44 PM
Supergirlx2
Sep 15 2016, 12:40 PM

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You sure it didn't happen offscreen?
If they got a divorce off-screen, no one has made mention to it. Hope's been too busy sleeping with Rafe hours after getting out of the hospital following abdominal surgery & then trying to quit her job, Rafe convincing her not to & then later having the two make out on Hope's couch after she shares her worries about Aiden reopening the Stefano case.


Maybe it won't be mentioned.
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anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:01 PM
Hmm, this wasn't a bad episode or a good episode. I don't even know how to feel about it.

Also Claire is an idiot and I really don't get why she was not forced into some sort of made up Salem-esque forced protective custody b.s. considering Orpheus threatened John's entire family. Legally, probably can't do that but it's Salem of the criminal cops and nepotism so why not.
Or if not official Salem protective custody, unofficial family protective custody. It's weird to me that the minute Orpheus surfaced with an expressed desire to take out J/M's family, no one in the family marched down to Salem U to make sure Claire was safe if she wasn't answering her phone. Hell, Nicole and Eve had time to go for martinis... ask one of them to swing by the University if Marlena was at the hospital with John, Brady was holding Theresa's hand, and Paul was busy making eyes at Sonny (which I support). Eve likes Claire and she's hyper-sensitive to teenage girls in danger. She'd have done it!
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Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 01:23 PM
Supergirlx2
Sep 15 2016, 01:06 PM
Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 12:52 PM
Memo to Rafe: if Kate's safety can be your personal project, Aiden's safety can be Hope's personal project.
Heaven forbid Rafe allow Hope to do anything herself. He's allowed to have side projects & whatnot, but she isn't allowed to do anything without his approval or his presence/inclusion. This has been a constant point since Rafe decided Hope needed to cover up having murdered Stefano & that he'd help her.
In isolation, it's not at all unreasonable to say Hope shouldn't be the one looking out for Aiden under the circumstances, especially since Hope apparently wasn't set on doing it herself as long as she knew it got done.

But it was striking to me that there was no corresponding commentary on Rafe/Kate, especially since Rafe spoke to Jordan in this episode, so it ought to be fresh in his mind that Kate sicced Clyde on the stepdaughter he abused in order to punish Jordan for loving Rafe.

Rafe has always been like this. When he was a new character, he spent a lot of time demanding that Sami tell him everything about her past, but he yelled at her if she ever breathed a whisper about his dead fiancee.
There was a scene months ago where Hope & Rafe were at the pub & Hope was talking to Rafe about Ciara & her concerns about recovery post-rape. Hope noticed that Rafe was upset about something & she managed to find out that it was family-related, but he didn't want to share anything with her. What kind of a "loving" relationship are we supposed to be convinced that Rafe & Hope have if Rafe doesn't feel comfortable sharing his thoughts & feelings on his personal problems with the person he claims he's in love with?! There's been such an imbalance between what Rafe expects from Hope & what Hope's "allowed" to expect from Rafe, and that's NOT a couple I want to root for or think have a healthy/loving/mutually-respectful relationship.

I wonder if Hope even knows that Eduardo left Salem or that Adrianna went somewhere to have surgery. Conversations about Rafe's family seem to be taboo between Rope, but we constantly see Hope expressing her concerns over Aiden looking into Stefano's murder (& Rafe trying to convince her that there's nothing to be worried about).
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anzu


Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 01:28 PM
anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:01 PM
Hmm, this wasn't a bad episode or a good episode. I don't even know how to feel about it.

Also Claire is an idiot and I really don't get why she was not forced into some sort of made up Salem-esque forced protective custody b.s. considering Orpheus threatened John's entire family. Legally, probably can't do that but it's Salem of the criminal cops and nepotism so why not.
Or if not official Salem protective custody, unofficial family protective custody. It's weird to me that the minute Orpheus surfaced with an expressed desire to take out J/M's family, no one in the family marched down to Salem U to make sure Claire was safe if she wasn't answering her phone. Hell, Nicole and Eve had time to go for martinis... ask one of them to swing by the University if Marlena was at the hospital with John, Brady was holding Theresa's hand, and Paul was busy making eyes at Sonny (which I support). Eve likes Claire and she's hyper-sensitive to teenage girls in danger. She'd have done it!
True. Maybe some family lockdown meeting is in the works coming soon? John, Marlena, Paul, and Belle are all living at the penthouse now so maybe (hopefully) its just a mater of who is filming.
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anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:32 PM
Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 01:28 PM
anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:01 PM
Hmm, this wasn't a bad episode or a good episode. I don't even know how to feel about it.

Also Claire is an idiot and I really don't get why she was not forced into some sort of made up Salem-esque forced protective custody b.s. considering Orpheus threatened John's entire family. Legally, probably can't do that but it's Salem of the criminal cops and nepotism so why not.
Or if not official Salem protective custody, unofficial family protective custody. It's weird to me that the minute Orpheus surfaced with an expressed desire to take out J/M's family, no one in the family marched down to Salem U to make sure Claire was safe if she wasn't answering her phone. Hell, Nicole and Eve had time to go for martinis... ask one of them to swing by the University if Marlena was at the hospital with John, Brady was holding Theresa's hand, and Paul was busy making eyes at Sonny (which I support). Eve likes Claire and she's hyper-sensitive to teenage girls in danger. She'd have done it!
True. Maybe some family lockdown meeting is in the works coming soon? John, Marlena, Paul, and Belle are all living at the penthouse now so maybe (hopefully) its just a mater of who is filming.
Wow, I had no idea Paul had moved in too. Though with the limited number of sets I should have guessed. Hope that townhouse has two or three floors of bedrooms!
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Inara Serra
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 01:36 PM
anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:32 PM
Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 01:28 PM

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True. Maybe some family lockdown meeting is in the works coming soon? John, Marlena, Paul, and Belle are all living at the penthouse now so maybe (hopefully) its just a mater of who is filming.
Wow, I had no idea Paul had moved in too. Though with the limited number of sets I should have guessed. Hope that townhouse has two or three floors of bedrooms!
When did Paul move in? I don't remember that happening...
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Evie


Good riddance to Chase. Why is Jade still on this show? Heck, why are all the teens still on this show? JJ/Gabi are boring and this story is so lame and contrived.
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anzu


Inara Serra
Sep 15 2016, 01:41 PM
Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 01:36 PM
anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:32 PM

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Wow, I had no idea Paul had moved in too. Though with the limited number of sets I should have guessed. Hope that townhouse has two or three floors of bedrooms!
When did Paul move in? I don't remember that happening...
When Paul was discharged from the hospital, Marlena told John Paul should stay with them and he kissed her. I don't know how temporary it was though. So maybe he's back at the Inn?
Edited by anzu, Sep 15 2016, 01:49 PM.
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Ken Adams
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Wow, a Jordan mention.
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Inara Serra
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:46 PM
Inara Serra
Sep 15 2016, 01:41 PM
Cimz
Sep 15 2016, 01:36 PM

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When did Paul move in? I don't remember that happening...
When Paul was discharged from the hospital, Marlena told John Paul should stay with them and he kissed her. I don't know how temporary it was though. So maybe he's back at the Inn?
I thought that was just temporary until he was recovered...
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pagraves
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Claire and her selfies remind me so much of my 17 yr old niece, and she's not a moron. She's just a typically self-absorbed teen. So maybe Claire isn't that far off from reality.

It did occur to me today that Claire is acting the way I'd expect Ciara to, while Ciara is behaving way too solemnly and sensibly to be, well, Ciara.
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anzu


Inara Serra
Sep 15 2016, 01:55 PM
anzu
Sep 15 2016, 01:46 PM
Inara Serra
Sep 15 2016, 01:41 PM

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When Paul was discharged from the hospital, Marlena told John Paul should stay with them and he kissed her. I don't know how temporary it was though. So maybe he's back at the Inn?
I thought that was just temporary until he was recovered...
Could be thats just the last time i remember a mention of where Paul would reside.
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