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Monday, September 19th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 18 2016, 02:31 PM (13,237 Views)
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I know Claire says it, that's why I thought it was strange when Marlena said "John" instead of "grandpa." And I agree about Hope.
I know she has said "grandpa John" but has she ever just said "grandpa"?

I think it is "grandpa John."

I miss little Claire when she use to call him "Pop Pop".lol
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What happened to him since 2007 that makes you say that he's changed from caring about the law to not caring? I guess I missed it. I don't think of John as an assassin. Marlena saved him from that fate.
The car accident, his death and then his time as John DiMera changed him. Going to jail for crime he didn't commit, returning to the ISA because being a cop wasn't enough, and then finding out about his dad. They haven't flat out said John's remembered his past. I bet most is lost forever but bits and pieces seem to be leaking out right now. John Black wouldn't know the Chinese word for phantom, but the assassin he used to be did. John Black from 20 years ago wouldn't have snapped the guard's neck when trying to rescue Paul. To me, it looked like he hesitated but in the end realized that leaving the guard behind alive was a liability that could come back to bite him. He could have just tried to knock him out or choke him out and use his chain to lock him up but he didn't. John snapped his neck and had he not been carrying Paul or outnumbered he would have done serious damage to his father's henchmen.

Like I said this is all my headcanon based on the way they're writing him but John seems to have embraced who and what he used to be. It's partly why he's so comfortable with Eduardo and why he flat out said today it takes an assassin trained the way they were to contain this exact type of scenario. His training for that would have been to eliminate the problem, not restrain it till the cops arrive. He knows exactly what type of man Orpheus is and the danger he is to his family. John's not a cop and he's not going to behave like one with Marlena's life on the line.
If I had to guess they were going to have John kill Orpheus to save Marlena/Claire/the family in general. He even told her Friday he'd finish making Orpheus pay. He shot him the last time so...lol

And he has had a (mostly) wonderful life with Marlena in spite of his past but he can still use his past to save them. Even mercenary John did that.
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It's strange cause the only other kid that John has bonded with that way (the adult versions anyway because Drake was amazing with all the kids actors who played Carrie, Sami, Eric, Belle & Brady) But the only ones he bonded in such a deep way in their adult forms were Carrie, Belle and now Paul. they never did much with his relationship with JA's Eric or GV's version. And don't get me started on Brady... he was a petulant rebel in 2000's and even when he became good Brady ended up moving out and living at the Kiriakis Mansion (the beginning of Brady Kiriakis... :rolleyes: ) I liked the relationship he was developing with EM's Brady circa-2008/09 but they quickly ruined that after J/M's return in 2011.
I hate saying anything nice about Alison Sweeney at this point... but I thought her chemistry with Drake was off the charts and I absolutely bought a deep relationship between her Sami and John at various times. I loved that before the 1999 J/M wedding it was Sami begging Eric to let go of his anger and give J/M his blessing rather than the other way around. I loved Sami telling John that she started to understand about real love when she overheard him say he hated grape jelly and knew that he only ate it in the park with her on the day after her birthday every year because he loved her. I adored the time when Sami and John didn't want Belle to hear bad news about Marlena so Sami threw a tantrum about how John was refusing to pay for her honeymoon to cover (as Lucas had just publicly proposed), and when Belle bought it John asked if Sami was sure she wan't really his kid. And then Sami went and named her son after John, too.

It was there. It was just that every time there was a need for conflict, Sami regressed and screeched and generally became insufferable.

I thought the chemistry was there with Jensen's Eric, too, during the Eric/Greta period... Greta was all about John, so Eric was in John's orbit more when they were running around chasing Princess Gina and crashing on topical islands. Somewhere in there there's an action sequence where John saved Eric's life. That dynamic could have stayed. It should have stayed. But Eric vanished for a decade plus and the writing for Greg's Eric relating to John was... weird.
You already know I'm going to agree with everything you posted. ;) But yeah, the Sami/John dynamic is probably my favorite relationship on the whole show and that's due to the great chemistry between Ali and Drake. It was always a treat for me when Sami would let her guard down and remember that John was once her dad, and I always love whenever John flashes back to that era when he raised Sami, Eric, and Carrie. It's weird though that they never developed that relationship as deeply with Eric, I guess due to him being missing for so long.
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Director: Steven Williford
Scriptwriter: David Cherrill



Segment 1 Philip gets off the elevator at the hospital talking on his cell. No I'm here to see Maggie. She was supposed to have an appointment this morning and I wanted to see how things went. Maggie walks up to him on crutches. They went very well. Phil - I'll call you back. You're walking! This is fantastic. Maggie chuckles - On all 4 legs. I get an hour on these twice a day until I can build up my strength on the bars. Phil - Does Dad know? Maggie - Of course. He was with me. He went down to get the car. You just missed him. Phil - Yeah well probably better that way. Maggie - No it's not Philip. You and Victor need to ... you know what, when we go home your father is going to have to leave for the office so how about you come by and we can work on ways to change your father's mind.

Chloe is talking on her cell in her room. A Broadway show! That's so nice. Parker's going to love that. Thank you Mom. Thank you for doing this. Mom, do we have to do this every time. I told you Philip and I are pretending that this baby is his. He's being really terrific about it. Because I told you the real father is not a good man, not even close. No. No there is no way I'm going to let him find out this baby is his.

Deimos is in the park near the square with Dario. He hands Dario an envelope. I'm increasing your payment. Dario - That's great. I'm already keeping an eye on Chloe, what more do you want me to do? Deimos - Yes I want more information meaning I want you to be more proactive. Dario - I can do that. What did you have in mind? Deimos - I have reason to believe that Chloe is carrying my baby not Philip's. Of course Philip is family so I only want what's best for all of us. Dario smirks - I got it. I'll take care of that for you.

Gabi and Rafe are sitting at a table in the Pub. Rafe calls out - Can we have the check please? Gabi - We just got our food Rafe. Rafe - Yeah but every minute that I'm here is a minute I'm not at the station. You know we're doing 12 hr shifts right now. Gabi - Slow down, I mean it. Dario's not even here assuming that he's coming. Rafe - Well you know what, Dario is going to do what Dario always does as usual. Gabi gives him the look. Rafe - Alright, it is nice to hang out with you. I'm sorry, I'm going to chill out. Gabi - Thank you. So what's going on with those prisoners. Rafe - I don't know. We still think that they're in Salem. JJ hasn't kept you up to speed? Gabi - A little. He doesn't like to talk about it. Rafe - He doesn't want to worry you. Gabi - Well I am worried okay. Clyde Weston went to prison because JJ went undercover and nailed him. If he's not careful I don't even ... I don't even want to say it but he could end up dead.

John is at home checking his Tablet. Marlena comes into the room carrying a tray. John - What's that? Marlena - This is breakfast in bed but when I got there you were already up. John - Yeah sorry honey. I was just trying to get a line on you know who. Marlena - Yeah, how's the arm? John - What? Oh, it's fine. Marlena - I need you to come sit down. John - Okay. He sits next to her. She takes the Tablet from him - And now ... John - Doc. Marlena - You can concentrate on us. John - Sweetheart I really need to strategize right now. Marlena - It's okay, just a few minutes. Enjoy your breakfast. She removes the cover revealing 2 slices of dry toast. John - Wow. Someone pounds on the door. He signals Marlena to leave the room. He pulls out a gun and aims it towards the door. Pounding. John, it's Eduardo. John opens the door - Hey man you're back. Ed - Yeah. Listen, I made a hell of a mistake. I need your help. John lets him in. Ed sees the tray. I didn't think you'd be in the middle of something. I should have called. Marlena - Well clearly there's a problem. I'll just clear this away and make sure Claire is up. She leaves the room. John - I thought you left town because of the threat to your family. Ed - Yeah I did then I got a lead on the guy who was sending those emails. He's probably the same S.O.B. who set up the attack on Gabriella. John - Alright, who was it. Ed - He was the father of a man I was ordered to eliminate some years ago. Turns out Daddy's been in Dixon Correctional for a while. He's been running a big operation from inside the place. John - Alright. So if he's still in the cell not much you can do on your own. What we can do is try to find a way to get to him on the inside or better yet ... If he were being transferred ... so he was the prisoner they found dead in that van. Ed - Yeah, I busted his neck. All hell broke loose, the driver lost control, the van crashed. So I am the reason those three convicts got loose. Marlena rushes back into the room. John. John, have you seen Claire.

Shirtless Xander is doing pushups when Orpheus returns to the warehouse. Staying in shape huh. I need you to go outside and bring in a package. Xander - Yeah, what. Orpheus - I'd like it to be a surprise. Xander - I don't like surprises. Orpheus - Let's put it this way. Certain people in Salem are going to be in for a world of pain. Xander - Well then I'll go get the package.


Segment 2 Gabi - Rafe, would you please just keep an eye on JJ for me. Rafe - JJ's a cop. He knows how to take care of himself. Gabi - Yeah but you know, he takes chances and he's not as experienced as you are and he's ... Rafe - What? Gabi - Well since Abigail died he's been a little impulsive lately. Rafe - Yeah. Gabi - And I'm just scared you know. I'm scared that he might ... I don't know ... with these crazy prisoners out I'm just scared that he's going to go off and risk his life and I can't let that happen. You can't let that happen please.

John - We told Claire because of the situation it's too dangerous to leave. You check all the rooms. Marlena - Of course I did. She's not here and she's not answering her cell. John - Take it easy Doc. I have put a tracker on her phone. Don't tell her that of course. Marlena - Of course not. John - Assuming that it's on we'll be able to ... he's checking his Tablet. Of course it's on. There you go, she's at the Salem Inn. Marlena - She's with Chloe. John - Yeah. Marlena - That rascal. I'm going to go get changed. I'm going straight there. John - Alright. Be good.

Claire - Okay so your parfait is all strawberries and your mocha latte is extra sweet. Chloe - You're the best. Thank you. Claire - And I'll grab your dry cleaning later and I downloaded all this weeks music on to your Tablet. Chloe - Great thanks. What's this? Claire - What? Chloe - You have a YouTube page open. Claire - Oh sorry I can just ... Chloe - No I want to see this. Claire - It's nothing. I just ... I got a lot of hits when I sang at prom. It went viral so I opened my own channel. I can just close it. Chloe - No, no, no. Let's take a moment. I want to check this out. Oh, it's another alert about those escaped prisoners. Philip told me what happened at the wedding. That must have been so scary. And your grandfather was shot. Claire - But he's okay thank God. He's doing his macho thing, antibiotics and a bandage. But when my Mom and Dad found out about it it took everything I had to keep them from flying back from Hong Kong. Chloe - I bet. They must be out of their minds. Wait, John and Marlena know you're here, right? Claire - Oh sure, yeah.

Philip brings Maggie a cup of tea. (They're in the K mansion living room). Maggie - Thank you. Phil - It's hard to believe you and Dad moved back in here. Maggie - Deimos invited us before those criminals escaped yet I'm still not sure he's being entirely sincere. But frankly right now I feel safer here. Phil - Security's like a small army out there. As far as Deimos having a big change of heart, what can I say, I'll never trust him. He's the reason Dad kicked me out of his life. Deimos - You're absolutely right. Yes I am. I took advantage of you Philip. I used you to hurt Victor and you've suffered ever since. So now I'd like to help you make things right. Phil - How are you planning to do that? Deimos - I'd like to extend to you the same invitation that I made to Maggie and Victor. I'd like you to move in here.


Segment 3 Xander returns carrying a huge dufflebag. He plops it down on the table. Xander - What did you do? Promise to do all the prison laundry? This is heavy. It can't all be clothes. Orpheus - There's a surprise at the bottom. Xander - I told you I don't like surprises. Orpheus - You'll like this one. Xander - Where the hell did you get all this stuff. Orpheus - Quietly from somebody who knew somebody. With our mug shots all over town we're going to need disguises. Xander - Where the hell is Clyde? Orpheus - He's meeting up with old contacts, scouting out ammo, guns. What have you done so far today besides work on your pecs. Xander - I know you think I'm just the muscle around here but I've got plenty going on upstairs. Mind the attitude! He picks up a brown paper bag. Burners, untraceable, so we can keep in contact with each other. Orpheus - Excellent. Xander - You know I'm getting pretty tired of sitting around waiting for you and Clyde to decide who we go after first. You want to stick it to John, Marlena, Roman Brady, his sister ... whatever. Clyde wants to hit the DiMera house to get that baby. Me, I'm gunning for my family and whoever's with them starting with that little bitch Theresa. Orpheus - Slow down Junior. You'll get to have your fun. Xander - When? When!

Phil - Brady and Theresa moved in here! Seriously? Maggie - With Tate. Deimos - I can't tell you how dangerous these escaped prisoners are Philip. As you very well know I did my homework on the Kiriakis family before coming to Salem which included a visit to see Xander in prison. Phil - Let me guess, you bonded. Deimos - You can say whatever you want about me but this man is a complete psychopath. He literally dreams about killing every member of his family. So move in here and do it today. Phil - Well as much as I'd like to spend more time with Maggie I'll pass. Appreciate it though. Maggie, call me. Maggie - Yes the minute I talk to Victor. Take care. Phil - You too. He starts to leave. Deimos - Philip, wait. I'm sure you assume I have an agenda wanting you to move in here. You want to know something, you're right, I do. I want Chloe to move in as well. In fact I insist on it. What can I say, I have my deep concerns about her pregnancy.

Chloe - That's such a good video. Very impressive. Your stage presence is so much further along than mine was at your age. Claire - Really? You're so talented. Thank you. Chloe - You're welcome. And you know I'm here for you for any help you need. It's important to have someone support you when you're in this business. Claire - And you've got Philip. Chloe - I do and this baby. Knock on door. Claire - I'll get it. Grandma, I'm actually working right now. Marlena - No you're not, you're coming with me. Claire - But I ... Marlena - No arguments about it. Claire - Grandma! Marlena looks at Chloe - Sorry. Chloe - It's okay. Take care. Nice to see you Marlena. Claire goes with Marlena.

Ed - My guess is the ME will rule that the broken neck was caused by the accident so I'll skate on that. But those three bastards going free, that's all on me man. The van ran off the road, I hit my head, I blacked out. I came to and they were gone. John - They had to figure this was just their lucky day. Ed - John I had no idea who they were. If I had I would have ... John - Yeah. Ed - I can't go to the police. John - You've come to the right place. After all we were trained to control situations just like this.

Rafe - I know how much you care about JJ. Gabi - Yeah I just worry about him you know. He's been through a lot. First his Dad and Paige and now his sister. Rafe - Yes and when you lose someone you love the pain can be overwhelming. You want that pain to go away so bad or that it never happened, you'll do anything. You'll pretend, you'll take risks, you'll make bad decisions. Gabi - Yeah like when we lost our sister. Rafe - Yeah and when you got into trouble. Gabi - You crossed the line for me. You lied for me. You kept it a secret that you even knew I was involved in Melanie's kidnapping. Rafe - I didn't want to risk losing you. Gabi - You lost your job because of that. Rafe - I got it back. Gabi - Thank God. Never mind. Let's not even ... that's over and done with and you're never going to have to cover for somebody like that again. Rafe - Yeah. You do what you have to do at the time. You do what feels right.

Chloe is in the square. Dario sees her and leaves. Dario is now in Chloe's room. Okay Chloe what have you got for me. He starts looking around her room.


Segment 4 John - So as far as the escape goes it's not going to do anyone any good to know that you were even there. Ed - Thank you. John - As far as the cops go I can slide them some classified intel, just enforce the fact, the obvious fact that it was just dumb luck those clowns got away. Ed - Dumb luck due to my extreme carelessness. John - No partner, you've never been careless. Sometimes things just don't go as planned. So let me get started on the phone calls here. Why don't you go home, reconnect with your family. Let them know you're back in Salem. Ed - You sure man? John - Positive. I'll be in touch. Ed - I can't tell you how much I appreciate this. John - You've been there for me more than once my Winterthorne brother, now it's my turn. No worries. Enjoy your family. Ed - Thanks.

Rafe - Okay I hear you. I will give JJ the talk. I will make sure that he keeps his head down and that he just does his job, alright. Gabi - But you can't be with him the whole time, right? Rafe - No I can't but I can make sure that he only patrols the square and that he is with an experienced cop that I know and trust. Gabi - Thank you. Rafe - Can I ask you something? Gabi - Sure. Rafe - Does JJ know how serious you are about him. Gabi - Yeah. Rafe - And is he as serious about you as you are him? Gabi - Rafe, look we've said the whole I love you thing. We're just really busy with work, both of us and we haven't really had time to talk about where things are going. Rafe - And you're okay with that?

Phil - Deimos you know you can take your concerns for Chloe and you can shove them. Deimos - Can we talk in private? Phil - No. Deimos - Okay fine. I've made no secret of the fact that I don't believe Chloe's being honest about her baby's paternity. Phil - Our baby's paternity. You call her a liar, you're calling me one too. Deimos - All I want is the truth Philip and you have to know eventually I will have it. Phil - Good for you. Deimos - Alright, that aside, in the mean time all I want to be able to do is make amends for what I did to you. I know you want to repair the damage that was done, return to being a part of this family. Phil - You have no idea what I want. Deimos - I know what it's like to want your father to love you Philip, believe me, I do. To pay attention to you, to be proud of you. I never had that alright and all it did was lead to a great deal of anger. Eventually I became so obsessed with wanting to get revenge against anyone and everyone in my family. That's why I hurt you and Victor and Maggie and so many more. Phil - Maggie are you concerned at all? All this sincerity dripping off may leave a stain in the carpet. Maggie - Philip! Deimos - I'm not asking you to forgive me Philip. But if Victor and I can forgive each other there's no reason why the two of you can't either. He's not getting any younger Philip. The man should be surrounded by his family. We both know that. And anger ... anger can be so destructive. We all need to make sure that Victor sees that. A father should never be separated from a child that's why I want Chloe to move in here too. Phil - Chloe will never agree to live here and neither will I.

Dario is still searching. He checks out her Tablet. You've got a doctor's appointment Chloe, OB-GYN. He takes a photo of the details. He hears a key in the door.


Segment 5 Marlena follows Claire through the gates into the park. Claire, wait a minute. Claire - No, I'm never going to forgive you. You know you totally humiliated me in front of Chloe. She's my boss. Marlena - You listen to me. You were not supposed to be there. Claire - I just don't understand why I'm in trouble for going to work. You know everybody's always riding me be responsible, be responsible. And then when I am I'm still doing everything wrong. Marlena - I understand that and I know that you're very, very responsible. You are very independent and you are a very strong, young woman. Those are things that I love about you. But Claire, you made a commitment. You promised you would not leave the house without telling John or telling me. Claire - Okay that was last night. I went to work this morning. Marlena - Listen carefully to me right now. These men that escaped from prison, one of them is named Orpheus. He has sworn to hurt John and me and one way that he would do that is by hurting our family and that would mean you.

Gabi - Look I don't know how I feel about what's going on between JJ and I or what's not going on. I'm just ... I guess we're fine the way we are right now. I don't know. Rafe - I feel you. Why talk about it if you don't have to. Gabi - Exactly. Hey listen I know it's hard for you to get away from work but I'm glad you came down here for breakfast. It's nice when we sit down and talk and I know you don't have all the answers for me and I can work things out on my own but it's nice to have somebody who will listen. Rafe - I learned a long time ago that I definitely do not have all the answers. In fact I don't really have that many answers but you know, any time you want to talk, I'm here for you. You just call me, I'm a good listener. Gabi - Thanks.

Chloe comes in with her dry cleaning. She rushes to the bathroom. Dario comes out from behind the privacy screen and leaves the room.

Philip is again serving Maggie. Green tea, no sugar. Guaranteed to make you walk even sooner. Maggie - You didn't have to do that. Phil - Well I wanted to. And look, Deimos is gone. Let me guess, you splashed water on him and he melted. Maggie - He had things to do. Phil - Probably more funny speeches to write. Maggie - Philip I realise you're angry and God help me I know how stubborn a Kiriakis man can be but I think Deimos's heart, if he has one, is in the right place. Phil - You bought all that garbage! Maggie - He wants to reunite the family. Now Victor won't admit it but he wants you back in his life. And these criminals on the loose, they're just a constant threat to everyone. And it's got Victor terrible rattled. Could you maybe take that as an opportunity to reconcile with him. Phil - Why's it so important to you? Maggie - Because I love my husband and I love his only living son. Plus I'm selfish. I'd love for Chloe to have Parker in this house so I could see my grandson any time that I want. Phil - Deimos is not interested in Parker. All he's interested in is that baby Chloe's carrying. Maggie - Philip this is important. You, Chloe, Parker, this unborn baby would be safer here. Would you at least try and talk to Chloe.


Segment 6 Rafe - I will definitely keep an eye on JJ but I need you to promise me something too. Be careful. I don't think that you're a target but these guys are wackos. If they think there's any way they can use you or Arianna to get to someone like Marlena or John they will. Gabi - Okay, I'll be careful. I promise. Hug. Rafe - Thank you, I love you. Gabi - I love you too. Ed comes in and says something in Spanish. Gabi hugs him tight. What are you doing here. I missed you so much. Ed - Me too kids. It's good to see you. Hey man. Rafe hugs him. I didn't expect to see you until all the threats were ... Ed - Yeah, the threats are over although this is a pretty dangerous time for everybody in town I heard because 3 convicts escaped. Rafe - All convicted of violent crimes. I don't know how the hell they got out but it's not good. Gabi - Are you staying for good? Ed - For the foreseeable future at least. Gabi hugs him again - Oh I'm so happy you're here. Dario walks in - I'm sure as hell not.

John closes the door behind Paul. Paul - See I've come to know my Dad pretty well. He gets so wrapped up in his work he forgets to have breakfast. John reaches in the bag Paul has with him - And you're going to make me an offer I can't refuse. John eats. Paul - So do you think Salem PD would mind if we joined in on the manhunt for those creeps. John - I'm sure Roman could use the help. In fact I've got the ball rolling on that. Paul - How's your arm? John - Well it's alright. It's just tired, I suppose like if you pitched both games of a double header. Oh listen you made some quick and penetrating moves at Victor's. I'm so proud of you kid. Paul - Thanks. John - Also I wanted to tell you if I ever give the green light to do something like that again, don't you ever risk your life, you got it! Paul laughs - I got it.

Claire - Nobody told me I had to sign in and out, tell you everything that I was doing. Marlena - Well you do, you do. But that's temporary. They are going to find these men. Claire I made a promise to your parents that I would keep you safe anyway that I could. I'm not sure that I can do that right now. I'm thinking that you should be with your parents in Hong Kong until this whole thing blows over. Claire - No. This is my home and my Mom and Dad know that. No way in hell am I leaving.

Phil comes into Chloe's room. Chloe - Oh hey, I've been working on a new piece. You want to hear it? There's a really cool key change in the bridge I think you're going to like. Maybe now's not a good time. What's wrong? Phil - I just got an offer that kind of threw me. Chloe - For the record label? Phil - No. Deimos invited us to come and live in the mansion until those convicts are caught. Chloe I think we should say yes.


Segment 7 Dario - So that's it. Nobody wants to kill you anymore so things are back to normal. Gabi - Dario stop! Rafe - Yeah where have you been anyway. I thought we were having breakfast. Dario - I had work to do. Rafe - Where are you working? Dario - You want to know something Pops. Ed - What's that? Dario - I don't care if you think that threat out there doesn't exist anymore. You are the real threat to this family. You always have been, you always will be and if you two can't see that then you're just lying to yourselves. Rafe - Come on. Dario leaves. Ed - Excuse me.

Dario is in the square. His cell rings. Hello. Deimos (outside the mansion) - It's me. Do you have anything to report yet? Dario - Actually I do. I'll send over what I found. Deimos - Excellent. Thanks. Dario - No problem Mr. Kiriakis. Ed hears this.

Chloe - Are you out of your mind! Phil - Let me explain. Chloe - Have you been drinking? Phil - Calm down okay. Deimos thinks that we're lying and that baby is his. He openly admitted that's why he wants you there so he can keep tabs on you. Chloe - Yeah and that sounds like so much fun. I wish he would have invited us sooner. Phil - Reason #1 okay. Now if we're going to stay in Salem we need to accept the fact that he's watching us. So why not move in right under his nose, play it like we're this lovey-dovey couple, meanwhile keep an eye on him. Chloe - And reason #2? Phil - Those escaped prisoners are nuts. That baby you're carrying is a Kiriakis. They could decide you're the perfect target. You should see the security at the mansion. You'd think the President lived there. Chloe - Philip listen I appreciate your concern for me and taking care of me and this baby but look I feel like the real reason you want to move in there is so you can reconcile your relationship with your father. Phil - I wouldn't say no to that. This could be my last chance. Chloe I don't want to play this card but I really turned my life upside down to help you. Don't I get some payback?

Claire - I get it. Those men are dangerous. Marlena - No they're more than that. They're evil. They are pure evil. Orpheus would have wanted to kill John and me and who knows who else at the wedding. Claire - Fine, I get it. But you're not hiding inside with all the doors locked. You came out alone to get me. Why should I live in fear? Marlena - You're right about that. We can't live our lives based on fear. But the truth is that there is fear but there's also being smart. Claire - And I'm going to be smart about it. Marlena - If you live with John and me you are going to have to follow the rules because the rules were put in place to keep you safe. Claire - Yeah I know. Marlena - Okay then you will listen and you will trust that we know exactly what is best for you. Claire nods - Yes. Marlena - Alright honey I hope that you never have to come across Orpheus. That man is ...

John - The ISA just gave me access to the latest tracking technology. Paul - Great, anything to locate those guys faster. John - Damn right. Those 3 bastards aren't going to quit hurting people until they're either back in their cages or in their coffins.

Xander is doing sit ups now. Orpheus holds up a plaid shirt. So what do you think? Xander - What I think is you're out of your skull. Seriously, playing dress up! I think we should get some guns and go looking for some targets. Orpheus - Xander wake up. I've got scores to settle same as you, same as Clyde but we've got to stay calm, not go off half-cocked, got it. We've got to plan, pick a target and then make our move and watch people beg for mercy.
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Sep 19 2016, 12:19 AM
Is it wrong that I would've liked this shitty baby storyline If JKJ was playing Philip
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If only the baby was Philips as well as it stands I'm not interested in any of it
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I see Claire is not a fan of sign in/ sign out sheets either :lol:

Thanks for posting the recap Pat my feed got preempted by the news so I missed the entire last half of the show
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I hate saying anything nice about Alison Sweeney at this point... but I thought her chemistry with Drake was off the charts and I absolutely bought a deep relationship between her Sami and John at various times. I loved that before the 1999 J/M wedding it was Sami begging Eric to let go of his anger and give J/M his blessing rather than the other way around. I loved Sami telling John that she started to understand about real love when she overheard him say he hated grape jelly and knew that he only ate it in the park with her on the day after her birthday every year because he loved her. I adored the time when Sami and John didn't want Belle to hear bad news about Marlena so Sami threw a tantrum about how John was refusing to pay for her honeymoon to cover (as Lucas had just publicly proposed), and when Belle bought it John asked if Sami was sure she wan't really his kid. And then Sami went and named her son after John, too.

It was there. It was just that every time there was a need for conflict, Sami regressed and screeched and generally became insufferable.

I thought the chemistry was there with Jensen's Eric, too, during the Eric/Greta period... Greta was all about John, so Eric was in John's orbit more when they were running around chasing Princess Gina and crashing on topical islands. Somewhere in there there's an action sequence where John saved Eric's life. That dynamic could have stayed. It should have stayed. But Eric vanished for a decade plus and the writing for Greg's Eric relating to John was... weird.
You already know I'm going to agree with everything you posted. ;) But yeah, the Sami/John dynamic is probably my favorite relationship on the whole show and that's due to the great chemistry between Ali and Drake. It was always a treat for me when Sami would let her guard down and remember that John was once her dad, and I always love whenever John flashes back to that era when he raised Sami, Eric, and Carrie. It's weird though that they never developed that relationship as deeply with Eric, I guess due to him being missing for so long.
Agree I did love Drake's fatherly chemistry with Ali, especially with Christie but let's talk about Ali S. right now, i did like most of their scenes when they weren't at odds. I blame Reilly for Sami's hatred of John cause once he was out of the picture she began seeing him as a father figure in 1998-2003, and then Reilly came back and Sami hated John again for no reason at all. It wasn't until Reilly was out again in 2006 that we started getting nice John/Sami scenes again like when the phone call scene when John went of to save Marlena and they met Smokey Robinson. And from 2007 onwards we had great John/Sami scenes. "You're my dad too..."
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You already know I'm going to agree with everything you posted. ;) But yeah, the Sami/John dynamic is probably my favorite relationship on the whole show and that's due to the great chemistry between Ali and Drake. It was always a treat for me when Sami would let her guard down and remember that John was once her dad, and I always love whenever John flashes back to that era when he raised Sami, Eric, and Carrie. It's weird though that they never developed that relationship as deeply with Eric, I guess due to him being missing for so long.
Agree I did love Drake's fatherly chemistry with Ali, especially with Christie but let's talk about Ali S. right now, i did like most of their scenes when they weren't at odds. I blame Reilly for Sami's hatred of John cause once he was out of the picture she began seeing him as a father figure in 1998-2003, and then Reilly came back and Sami hated John again for no reason at all. It wasn't until Reilly was out again in 2006 that we started getting nice John/Sami scenes again like when the phone call scene when John went of to save Marlena and they met Smokey Robinson. And from 2007 onwards we had great John/Sami scenes. "You're my dad too..."
I definitely 100% blame JER for the great regression of 2003-2006, it made no sense at all, and he should have known better. I guess he was determined to reset Lucas/Sami/Austin/Carrie back to 1997.
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The Kiriakis mansion is sure going to get crowded. Why would the villains want to harm Chloe anyway?
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Agree I did love Drake's fatherly chemistry with Ali, especially with Christie but let's talk about Ali S. right now, i did like most of their scenes when they weren't at odds. I blame Reilly for Sami's hatred of John cause once he was out of the picture she began seeing him as a father figure in 1998-2003, and then Reilly came back and Sami hated John again for no reason at all. It wasn't until Reilly was out again in 2006 that we started getting nice John/Sami scenes again like when the phone call scene when John went of to save Marlena and they met Smokey Robinson. And from 2007 onwards we had great John/Sami scenes. "You're my dad too..."
I definitely 100% blame JER for the great regression of 2003-2006, it made no sense at all, and he should have known better. I guess he was determined to reset Lucas/Sami/Austin/Carrie back to 1997.
Agreed!!

And then there was that hilarious "octagon" quads of Lucas/Sami/Austin/Carrie along with Shawn/Belle/Philip/Mimi... It was just ridiculous and it seemed like he was passing on the torch or rehashing the Will saga of 1995-97 with Shelle/Claire/Philip/Mimi while creating a new storyline for Lumi/Aurrie. I have no idea what Reilly's intention with two quandragles who were eerily similar was?. Lack of creativity or boredom?
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Sep 19 2016, 03:46 PM
I see Claire is not a fan of sign in/ sign out sheets either :lol:


LOL!!!!
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Sep 19 2016, 03:46 PM
I see Claire is not a fan of sign in/ sign out sheets either :lol:

Thanks for posting the recap Pat my feed got preempted by the news so I missed the entire last half of the show
That has to be a coincidence right? No way they remembered that.
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I see Claire is not a fan of sign in/ sign out sheets either :lol:

Thanks for posting the recap Pat my feed got preempted by the news so I missed the entire last half of the show
That has to be a coincidence right? No way they remembered that.
When did Marlena say that? I'm blanking on what scene or what year that was?
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Philip is checking on Maggie at the hospital. Kate ought to punch him right in the face.
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Oh Parker is with Nancy.
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Oh look. Hernandezes eating. That's different.
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John's fine, guys.
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I mean...that is the most glamorously presented toast there ever has been.
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Marlena is pissed that Eduardo interrupted their toast eating.
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Have we always known the prison was named Dixon Correctional?
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