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Tuesday, September 27th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 26 2016, 06:28 PM (7,041 Views)
Ocean
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I want to see Xander in action to go after Theresa. I hate to see him doing nothing. I love three bad boys to do something big this time and kill Maggie, Theresa, Deimos and Dario.
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Sep 27 2016, 04:12 PM
As for Nicole, I see lots of signs that she is slowly breaking away from him and has serious doubts. It may take some time but I don't see her long term with the guy. The writers are starting to get him back to the grey character he is again and should be. Griffith made a mess of the character.

DH likes Nicole and I think she knows the present isn't the route to go with her.
I agree. I think Nicole knows the relationship is unhealthy but can't stop herself from getting involved, she even brought up being in relationships in the past with dominant men that didn't end well.

I don't see this as long term, and she looks miserable a lot of the time she's with him. I've seen her happy and in love and this is not it. I agree that he's going to revert back to the character he was in the beginning and she will never accept him like that. I think this relationship is just a means to an end so it doesn't really bother me.
Edited by KLK, Sep 27 2016, 04:39 PM.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

If Danny boy turns out to be Chloe's baby daddy it would mean that she and Tan betrayed Nicole! At least maybe that will get her to stop crying over him and forgive Eric since St. Jonah D'arc wasn't so perfect after all. Plus Ape has been dead for 9 months now!! How could this baby possibly be his? Does he have a super sperm or something?

Please just say she and Brady had a fling in Chicago while he was distraught over Tate's kidnapping. It'll make more sense than the kid being that simian's!!

And on the bonus side it will end Thrady I'd it turns out to be Brady's then we can have a triangle with Philip which is what I wanted in the first place instead of that dumb Philip/Belle mess.
Edited by PetrovaSalvatore, Sep 27 2016, 04:43 PM.
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I enjoyed the confrontation today between Aiden, Hope and Rafe. This story needed to come out and be corrected so I'm glad it is being addressed.

So far, there has been better balance IMO. They have backed off of ROPE being on everyday. Same for Victor/Maggie. And not as much of THRADY.

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KLK
Sep 27 2016, 04:04 PM
Inara Serra
Sep 27 2016, 12:32 PM
I liked JerseyGirl59's explanation that maybe Chloe realized that Kate did switch the samples, I guess it will make more sense when I actually watch it...

I watched it and now I'm terrified it's a baby Dick. :shame:
Oh dear God, please don't let Chloe's baby to be Dirty Tan. He ruined the show and most characters that I loved and I don't want to hear Chloe carrying his baby or his name. :pray:
Edited by Ocean, Sep 27 2016, 09:50 PM.
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I know it's not a popular opinion, but I am rooting hard for Daniel being the father. One of the only things I could see breaking Daniel's posthumous hold on Nicole is the knowledge that he was screwing her best friend (maybe on those frequent trips to visit Parker) while they were engaged. I don't want to sacrifice Nicole and Chloe's friendship, but it may be necessary for a temporary bump if it means freeing Nicole.

I'd rather have an "Eric didn't really cause the accident," but that doesn't do anything to sully Jonas Christ's golden halo. It also may be easier for her to forgive Eric if her attachment to Daniel is severed.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Ocean
Sep 27 2016, 04:45 PM
KLK
Sep 27 2016, 04:04 PM
Inara Serra
Sep 27 2016, 12:32 PM
I liked JerseyGirl59's explanation that maybe Chloe realized that Kate did switch the samples, I guess it will make more sense when I actually watch it...

I watched it and now I'm terrified it's a baby Dick. :shame:
Oh dear God, please don't let Chloe's baby is Dirty Tan. He ruined the show and most characters that I loved and I don't want to hear Chloe carrying his baby or his name. :pray:
Wanna bet she names him Daniel Jonas Jr. :roflol: :roflol:
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Sep 27 2016, 04:47 PM
I know it's not a popular opinion, but I am rooting hard for Daniel being the father. One of the only things I could see breaking Daniel's posthumous hold on Nicole is the knowledge that he was screwing her best friend (maybe on those frequent trips to visit Parker) while they were engaged. I don't want to sacrifice Nicole and Chloe's friendship, but it may be necessary for a temporary bump if it means freeing Nicole.

I'd rather have an "Eric didn't really cause the accident," but that doesn't do anything to sully Jonas Christ's golden halo. It also may be easier for her to forgive Eric if her attachment to Daniel is severed.
I'm fine with Daniel and Chloe being the parents but how is that possible if she's just a few months pregnant? I'm not fine with this somehow being a Dickole baby that Chloe is carrying.
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Ocean
Sep 27 2016, 03:54 PM
WTH is wrong with Nicole? One minute she's scared of Deimos and the next minutes she's naked with him having sex on the couch. This is not the Nicole I loved. She's gone and I don't if we get a real Nicole back. I missed the old Nicole and I hate this new version of her to be scared of everything and let people control life. Please writers give us the old Nicole back. I don't want to hate this character. I'm Nicole's biggest fan and it's killing me to see her to become weak and pethetic.
Not that I think Deimos or the baby story are great uses of Nicole as a character, but I don't think it's far from the core of her character to vacillate between being afraid and having sex with the object of her fear. Someone I know used to refer to her, not unkindly, as having The Vagina of Questionable Choices.

It's not like this even comes from a place that's her own fault. This is a woman whose father forced her to do porn as a teenager, so there was never a time when sex and fear were mutually exclusive for her.

This is also a woman who essentially sold herself to men she didn't like, or at least didn't want to marry, three times (Trent, Lucas, Victor) before she turned 25.

This is a woman who, when at the center of a triangle, will never fail to pick the man who loves her less and who treats her worse. (Lucas over Eric, Victor over Lucas, EJ over Brady, Daniel over Eric.)

This is a woman who knew perfectly well what EJ was capable of, sometimes showed fear of it, and got pregnant by him... twice. Lying about it the second time.

This was a woman who knew that Rex Rollins and Colin Murphy were slime, and that by sleeping with them she'd be putting her life in danger because she was bought and paid for by Victor. She slept with them anyway.

Nicole has been afraid more often than not since we met her. She was afraid of her past. She was afraid of being in love. She was afraid of the crimelords she married but she figured that at least she could enjoy their money and power if they turned on her. She was afraid of losing EJ if she lost his baby and losing Eric if he knew that church was an option.

It's not that she hasn't grown, but she takes two steps forward and one step back. Sometimes that step back means some combination of fear and ill-advised sex.
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Oh, me either on the Dickole baby. She could just not be showing or having signs of pregnancy during the months since Daniel died. I don't know what time of year it actually is in Salem. If we were in real-time, I'd be more convinced that it wasn't a possibility.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Sep 27 2016, 04:40 PM
If Danny boy turns out to be Chloe's baby daddy it would mean that she and Tan betrayed Nicole! At least maybe that will get her to stop crying over him and forgive Eric since St. Jonah D'arc wasn't so perfect after all. Plus Ape has been dead for 9 months now!! How could this baby possibly be his? Does he have a super sperm or something?

Why, yes. Yes, of course Daniel has super sperm. Daniel can impregnate women from beyond the grave because that's how much better Daniel is than all other men.

But they would never tarnish St. Jonas D'arc (hee!). They would say that the baby was a super-special gift for Nicole conceived behind Nicole's back because that's romantic, not creepy.

In a world where a five-year-old flower girl can go upstairs after her parents' wedding and come downstairs aged fifteen two weeks later when they return from the honeymoon, Chloe can just be showing now from an artificial insemination last December.
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Maybe Daniel had sperm frozen and only told Chloe? Chloe still distraught about his death and still not over him decided to use the sperm to get pregnant? So she would have another piece of Daniel.

That could piss off Nicole. And hopefully stop her from bringing up the orange douche bag.
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Can someone, anyone, just once let Nicole and Phillip have the kids they keep trying for. They both made me sad today.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Sep 27 2016, 04:47 PM
Ocean
Sep 27 2016, 04:45 PM
KLK
Sep 27 2016, 04:04 PM

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Oh dear God, please don't let Chloe's baby is Dirty Tan. He ruined the show and most characters that I loved and I don't want to hear Chloe carrying his baby or his name. :pray:
Wanna bet she names him Daniel Jonas Jr. :roflol: :roflol:
Lol bite your tounge. Do you remember Nicole was going to put her second baby's name if it's a boy, Daniel Rafael Jr and the baby died?
Edited by Ocean, Sep 27 2016, 09:53 PM.
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Sep 27 2016, 04:58 PM
Ocean
Sep 27 2016, 03:54 PM
WTH is wrong with Nicole? One minute she's scared of Deimos and the next minutes she's naked with him having sex on the couch. This is not the Nicole I loved. She's gone and I don't if we get a real Nicole back. I missed the old Nicole and I hate this new version of her to be scared of everything and let people control life. Please writers give us the old Nicole back. I don't want to hate this character. I'm Nicole's biggest fan and it's killing me to see her to become weak and pethetic.
Not that I think Deimos or the baby story are great uses of Nicole as a character, but I don't think it's far from the core of her character to vacillate between being afraid and having sex with the object of her fear. Someone I know used to refer to her, not unkindly, as having The Vagina of Questionable Choices.

It's not like this even comes from a place that's her own fault. This is a woman whose father forced her to do porn as a teenager, so there was never a time when sex and fear were mutually exclusive for her.

This is also a woman who essentially sold herself to men she didn't like, or at least didn't want to marry, three times (Trent, Lucas, Victor) before she turned 25.

This is a woman who, when at the center of a triangle, will never fail to pick the man who loves her less and who treats her worse. (Lucas over Eric, Victor over Lucas, EJ over Brady, Daniel over Eric.)

This is a woman who knew perfectly well what EJ was capable of, sometimes showed fear of it, and got pregnant by him... twice. Lying about it the second time.

This was a woman who knew that Rex Rollins and Colin Murphy were slime, and that by sleeping with them she'd be putting her life in danger because she was bought and paid for by Victor. She slept with them anyway.

Nicole has been afraid more often than not since we met her. She was afraid of her past. She was afraid of being in love. She was afraid of the crimelords she married but she figured that at least she could enjoy their money and power if they turned on her. She was afraid of losing EJ if she lost his baby and losing Eric if he knew that church was an option.

It's not that she hasn't grown, but she takes two steps forward and one step back. Sometimes that step back means some combination of fear and ill-advised sex.
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IF they go there (and I'm quite sure they are going to), I think the story will be that sometime before Dan's death, he and Nicole talked about a surrogacy. They went to a fertility clinic and froze some embryos until they could find the right surrogate. Unbeknownst (or possibly knownst) to Nicole, Daniel talked to Chloe about being the surrogate.

Then, relatively impossible time frames aside, there was an attempt to implant the embryo(s). They all think it failed, but it didn't. It just took a while. Or, maybe Chloe attempted the implantation after Dan died as some kind of present for Nicole and thought it didn't work. Something like that. But, however they explain it, that baby is totally Nicole and Daniel's kid.
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Bellarke <3

The writers need to fix Nicole. I can't stand her. She used to be one of my favorite characters. I'm hoping whatever happens with Xander brings back the real Nicole. This current version is just pathetic. :shame:
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Why do I get a feeling Deimos is in love with Chloe and lie to Nicole that he's in love with her?
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Sep 27 2016, 05:22 PM
Why do I get a feeling Deimos is in love with Chloe and lie to Nicole that he's in love with her?
Why? If he wanted Chloe he could have had Chloe, she was ready and willing to go start a new life with him but he chose to follow Nicole back to Salem instead.
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Poor Xander just wants to have his fun too, but O won't let him. Instead he's stuck babysitting that brat Joey.
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