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Wednesday, September 28th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 27 2016, 05:00 PM (14,313 Views)
tiff5555


I thought today's episode, was on a boring side, but we did saw a pretty good scenes with these few here:

- Jennifer & Chad
- Abe telling Brady no and sending him home
- Paul babysitting Claire
- Paul and Sonny talking
- John getting a call that his granddaughter, Claire, has been abducted by Orpheus!
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moniker11


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Sep 28 2016, 11:55 AM
Brady could have gotten Claire killed. I don't think anyone knows she's gone yet
Not only that but regardless he should very well know that Joey was taken. At the very least he endangered his life.

Are we supposed to take Brady seriously here? He's like a petulant teenager with money who plays at being a man but in reality is a little boy playing with his daddy's gun. The only question is whether he hurts himself or someone else pretending he's now a tough guy able to calculate all the odds and understand the consequences of ordering a hit.

The dissimilarities between he and Paul could not be more apparent. Paul gets a call and is told about activity at the dock. Paul knows the information is important but not sure what to do with it so he goes and tells his dad because he knows John will not only understand why it's important but tell him and teach him so he's better prepared in the future. John knows Brady and realized immediately what he had done.

Brady on the other hand takes that information, decides himself, without any outside input to sanction the hit on three criminals regardless of the safety of anyone else around which in this case included not just Joey but various Kiriakis employees and the men he employes. Then he allows Sonny to tag along like hanging out half a block down while shooting erupts is a brilliant idea. Is it actually possible for him to be more dumb?

I've never really cared how Theresa left the show but count me in the camp that hopes Brady's stupidity gets her killed. He won't learn anything from it but maybe it will drive this now worthless character off the canvas as well.
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moniker11


I do hope John/Marlena/Abe ream Brady's ass over this. At the least his parents figured it out and there really, really needs to be a follow up conversation about it.

Paul was adorable with Claire. She's being a naive nitwit but it's almost become funny at this point. At the very least Paul blocking her as she kept trying to make for the door was enjoyable.

Can someone explain wtf is going on between Paul and Sonny right now? Did Sonny really throw shade at John? Implying that working for him or with him is not just dangerous but morally dubious? The audience saw that John gave Eddie a pass for what happened but Sonny certainly doesn't know about that. So why this bizarre loggerheads about family legacies? There's no real contest between John and Victor as to whom has been more "evil" in the past. It seems like they all but stated that in the future Paul is going to investigate the Kiriakis' for something. That said, the chemistry between them is sizzling. I'm in no hurry for them to get back to together but Sonny doth appear to protest too much.
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Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM
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Sep 28 2016, 05:34 PM
From watching the Paul/Sonny scene in the end, well not the very end, just before the flashback and just after...I wondered, is Sonny wanting Paul to make the first move??? Sonny you might have to make that move yourself!
I don't know why so many people want their relationship to be so rushed. Nothing good is ever rushed, am I right?
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



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moniker11


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Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
Rosebud
Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM
sonnyfan
Sep 28 2016, 05:34 PM
From watching the Paul/Sonny scene in the end, well not the very end, just before the flashback and just after...I wondered, is Sonny wanting Paul to make the first move??? Sonny you might have to make that move yourself!
I don't know why so many people want their relationship to be so rushed. Nothing good is ever rushed, am I right?
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



Can't speak for anyone else but the slow burn for them means more air time and I actually care about this couple. I like both characters and want it to work. Phelle was awful and hopping into bed almost immediately after she cheated on Shawn just made it worse. Deimos is flat out terrible with women. Again not many care other than the fact that it made all three women look desperate.

On the other hand going slow, building properly, watching Sonny and Paul fight their attraction because of their history is interesting. Despite the wtfery of their scenes today the were sizzling. I want more layered conversations. Awkward meetings and just flat out denial of their attraction because eventually the payoff will be even better for it. See Chad/Abby and how long that took. We didn't get them long enough but months of angst made for a great story.
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anzu


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Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
Rosebud
Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM
sonnyfan
Sep 28 2016, 05:34 PM
From watching the Paul/Sonny scene in the end, well not the very end, just before the flashback and just after...I wondered, is Sonny wanting Paul to make the first move??? Sonny you might have to make that move yourself!
I don't know why so many people want their relationship to be so rushed. Nothing good is ever rushed, am I right?
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



"No one?"

Ummmmmm I wanted every coupling you mentioned to slow down or not happen at all. Slowing down isn't about double standards to me, it's about good story and romance. A push and pull.
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moniker11
Sep 29 2016, 12:28 AM
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Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
Rosebud
Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM

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Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



Can't speak for anyone else but the slow burn for them means more air time and I actually care about this couple. I like both characters and want it to work. Phelle was awful and hopping into bed almost immediately after she cheated on Shawn just made it worse. Deimos is flat out terrible with women. Again not many care other than the fact that it made all three women look desperate.

On the other hand going slow, building properly, watching Sonny and Paul fight their attraction because of their history is interesting. Despite the wtfery of their scenes today the were sizzling. I want more layered conversations. Awkward meetings and just flat out denial of their attraction because eventually the payoff will be even better for it. See Chad/Abby and how long that took. We didn't get them long enough but months of angst made for a great story.
Don't get me wrong. I agree that if they do put PaulSon together they need to take their time and develop it a little. But there does seem to be a bit of a double standard here too.

I haven't seen today's ep so I reserve judgment on how "sizzling" the scene today was. As y'all know those two together bore me to tears though I like them individually
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Sep 28 2016, 06:44 PM
I.would love to see Xander beat the crap out of Brady and tell him you're not Kirikis. You're Brady Black and your parents are Jarlena not Maggie or Victor.
So, only his father's family counts? I know people don't like Brady being with the Kiriakis side all of the time, but that doesn't change the fact that he IS a Kiriakis! He wasn't abandoned by his mother's family. He has been around them for years.


This is really bugging me. lol.


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Hugo


I really loved the PaulSon scenes today!

I'm glad Paul pushed Sonny a little bit, asked questions about the way Sonny acted at the wedding and why he really came to see him. It's obvious Sonny cares about him more than just a friend. I wish Paul digged deeper when Sonny said they cannot go there again. He just replied "makes sense", that was so lame. Maybe he was afraid to ask further. My speculation is that Sonny still feels guilty about leaving Will behind and he doesn't think he deserves to be happy now. Maybe the fact that it's Paul makes him feel worse because going back to him would be an admission that Will was right to be so jealous last year, I don't know.

I'm not sure why they showed the flashback at the graveyard, was that to remind us that Paul hinted that he would wait for Sonny? Is that secret agreement between them still in place? Or does it mean Sonny still doesn't want to feel love one year later? I didn't really understand it.

I'm not a fan of Sonny's new attitude, the fact that he's all about the Kiriakis family now. Some say he's turning into a mini-Victor, I say he's turning into a mini-Brady. I would like Sonny to mingle with Adrienne's side of his family and to reconnect with Will's family as well. He used to want to make it on his own and now he wants to work for Victor. I'm glad Paul called him out and threw some shade about his great uncle and his businesses. Sonny got pissed but I think it's because deep down he knows Paul is right. I hope the change in Sonny's attitude is part of his grieving process and that it won't be a permanent thing. I don't mind him being a little gray but he always had a good moral compass, I don't want him to lose that. Anyway, the foreshadowing that Paul and Sonny could end up on opposite sides is intriguing and could provide good angst for them, I'm excited to see that.

I disagree with the fans who think the writers are right to take it slow with them, I think they are taking too slow. Those are the same people who kissed (and probably had sex) the very first night they met in San Fransisco. They know each other very well, the feelings and the attraction are there, they are both single, it doesn't really make sense to continue this dance. I don't think it's realistic to have a young couple - gay or straight - waste several months trying to figure out a relationship and wait to have sex at the very end, once everything is resolved. Maybe that kind of writing worked well 20 years ago but I think today's audiences have different expectations, that's why shows like Grey's Anatomy are so popular.
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Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
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Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM
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Sep 28 2016, 05:34 PM
From watching the Paul/Sonny scene in the end, well not the very end, just before the flashback and just after...I wondered, is Sonny wanting Paul to make the first move??? Sonny you might have to make that move yourself!
I don't know why so many people want their relationship to be so rushed. Nothing good is ever rushed, am I right?
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



.....

People here have been hating that Deimos has been with so many women within the short time he has been on the show.
Edited by laurondo, Sep 29 2016, 04:21 AM.
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Hugo
Sep 29 2016, 02:50 AM
Those are the same people who kissed (and probably had sex) the very first night they met in San Fransisco.
There's kind of a huge difference between when they first met and now, especially when you take into consideration what happened between them and Will last year and the fact that Will died.
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Angie79
Sep 29 2016, 12:53 AM
This is really bugging me. lol.


You're not alone.
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HoritaFan
Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



I think you picked the worst examples possible to prove there is a double standard here. :shrug:

The majority of people were not for Philip and Belle hitting the sheets, she received a lot of hate because of it. And if you don't think people wanted Deimos to cool it, I think you missed most of the discussion here on him and his women.

Those wanting Paulson to take it slow has nothing to do with the couple being gay, but wanting a good story with a slow burn. Too many couples in the last few years were slapped together, which does not make for a good story. JJ/Gabi is a good example of that.
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laurondo
Sep 29 2016, 04:25 AM
Hugo
Sep 29 2016, 02:50 AM
Those are the same people who kissed (and probably had sex) the very first night they met in San Fransisco.
There's kind of a huge difference between when they first met and now, especially when you take into consideration what happened between them and Will last year and the fact that Will died.
Maybe the writers should make a better job at explaining what is holding Sonny back because I don't really understand it. It's been a year since Will died and Sonny said he doesn't blame Paul for his marriage falling apart. I don't see any major obstacle. It feels that they are not together just because.
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Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
Rosebud
Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM
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Sep 28 2016, 05:34 PM
From watching the Paul/Sonny scene in the end, well not the very end, just before the flashback and just after...I wondered, is Sonny wanting Paul to make the first move??? Sonny you might have to make that move yourself!
I don't know why so many people want their relationship to be so rushed. Nothing good is ever rushed, am I right?
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



It's really NOT a gay couple issue in terms of slow burn. And if you are a Paulson fan then you should WANT a slow burn because otherwise they are just like everyone else which is BORING! Eric and Nicole were slow burn and people loved it because it's what is missing in daytime. I only bring up MY ship to prove my point that its not a gay issue. No one is afraid to go there. It's already be done.
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I actually enjoyed today's episode. There were some silly moments (Brady going vigilante and then not even really being involved).

But I actually enjoyed Chad today and I can't say I've enjoyed him in a LONG time. I liked Jennifer as the mother figure in his life and I loved the Chad/Gabi scenes. Billy was totally putting on the charm in that scene and it's too bad that they won't amount to anything because there is clearly chemistry there. I wanted to like JJ/Gabi, but they are boring, at least to me.

I also really liked Paul today a lot. He and Sonny were good together. And it hit me that they need Sonny to go kind of dark with his Kiriakis side because Paul is such a good guy. The problem with Paul is that he should be Brady, but since he's not I'm just going to go with it and enjoy CS.
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Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
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Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM
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Sep 28 2016, 05:34 PM
From watching the Paul/Sonny scene in the end, well not the very end, just before the flashback and just after...I wondered, is Sonny wanting Paul to make the first move??? Sonny you might have to make that move yourself!
I don't know why so many people want their relationship to be so rushed. Nothing good is ever rushed, am I right?
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I like when any relationship whether gay or straight is developed slowly. All the couples you mentioned failed because they were rushed. All the great supercouples of the past had a slow burn and the audiences were tortured with when will they be official. I loved that and it is what soaps is missing with current love stories.
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Sep 29 2016, 12:19 AM
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Sep 28 2016, 06:51 PM
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Sep 28 2016, 05:34 PM
From watching the Paul/Sonny scene in the end, well not the very end, just before the flashback and just after...I wondered, is Sonny wanting Paul to make the first move??? Sonny you might have to make that move yourself!
I don't know why so many people want their relationship to be so rushed. Nothing good is ever rushed, am I right?
Actually, from what I've seen on here & other places everybody keeps saying they DON'T want PaulSon rushed...which I think is a double standard.

No one wanted Phillip & Belle to cool it when they were hitting the sheets every other days a couple months back.

Deimos has slept with Kate, Chloe & now he's moving on to Nicole & no one is saying he needs to cool his heels.

But the gay couple: we want them to take it slow...lots of hand holding and long stares and boring conversations before there's so much as a kiss. :yawnz:



I mean...whose posts are you reading? Because I've seen plenty of people complain about all of that. I've done the complaining myself and haven't been alone.
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Angie79
Sep 29 2016, 12:53 AM
Ocean
Sep 28 2016, 06:44 PM
I.would love to see Xander beat the crap out of Brady and tell him you're not Kirikis. You're Brady Black and your parents are Jarlena not Maggie or Victor.
So, only his father's family counts? I know people don't like Brady being with the Kiriakis side all of the time, but that doesn't change the fact that he IS a Kiriakis! He wasn't abandoned by his mother's family. He has been around them for years.


This is really bugging me. lol.


The problem is that onscreen the Kiriakis side of his family is ALL that counts. Personally, I think both should, but since apparently it has to be one or the other, I'd prefer it be the family he was actually raised as a part of. He didn't even mention the threats against that part of his family today, and he was standing right next to them.
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Sep 28 2016, 10:33 PM
I thought Chad calling Gabi "slim" sounded incredibly corny. Did not really enjoy the conversation. The way they had Chad look at Gabi when she left is just a huge "NO!" to me, merely weeks after losing Abby. The timing sucks and Gabi really has no reason to be attracted to another guy when JJ has been good to her (and apologizing for the billionth time today about how horrible it was he didn't see her before he left to look for his sister's body).

I enjoyed the Chad and Jennifer scenes for the most part and love that Chad had a clock set to when Abby said "Yes" to his marriage proposal. Hopefully he'll still be able to give her that watch in March. The only thing here I didn't like is that Jennifer telling Chad that time moves on is obviously the show trying to move him on with another woman. Move on with your life sure, but it's too soon for another relationship when you have supposedly lost the love of your life. Sorry, I know I sound like a broken record on this topic, but it's how I feel.

The JJ/Gabi scenes were nice. I remember the song they used from the Chad & Abby bedtime story episode (where they featured 4 couples).

The little argument between Paul and Sonny seemed to come out of nowhere. Sonny is all "I'm a Kiriakis!" and beating his chest.

Brady is a moron. Nice going.
I agree with you on the whole Chad/Gabi thing. I couldn't decipher that look though. Some times his eyes are so blue, it's hard to quit swimming around in them. At first, I thought he was just looking. I don't know. I think that Chad is just trying to fill a space. It was like he had someone to talk to finally and then poof they left. I know the show is going to make it more but I am going to look at it as him trying to fill a space., Gabi,not sure about her, but that's what I think for Chad.
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