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Thursday, September 29th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 28 2016, 06:42 PM (10,609 Views)
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How is Aiden still even on this show? He is just as irrelevant and infuriating to me as Deimos. Not appealing in the slightest.
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Director: Steven Williford
Scriptwriter: Edwin Klein



Segment 1 Aiden and a beat cop are walking in the square. Cop - The square and a few neighbouring areas have power but I can't say for how long. Aiden - I'm not following you. Cop - The power company temporarily diverted some electricity to us. That's going to mean an overload to our systems. Aiden - So if we're going to do this press conference we have to do it as soon as possible, is that what you're saying. Cop - If you want a press conference sooner is better. A guy comes up and asks the officer for some assistance. Aiden recalls questioning Hope and Rafe about Stefano's case and then listening to his illegally acquired recording of Hope and Rafe's conversation after he left. He walks away. Clyde sees him.

Rafe (with Hope and Abe in the interrogation room) - There's no question ? holding a press conference. In fact I think it's vital to do so but why in such a public venue. Hope - Exactly. Abe - Absolutely not. Hope - It would be much better to do if from here. Abe - The day Orpheus, Clyde and Xander have me cowering is the day I'm no longer fit for office. Frankly I resent your challenging my authority. We wouldn't even need a press conference if you and the rest of the Salem PD had done their job and brought these bastards in.

Steve hands Kayla a cup - Decaf. Kayla - Decaf! Seriously! Steve - Yes seriously. The last thing you need is caffeine racing through your system. Kayla - That is exactly what I need. Steve - Kayla you've been out there all day looking for Joey and Claire and you haven't even recovered from surgery yet. What you really need to do is lie down and try and get some sleep or just rest. Kayla - Sleep! Rest! Are you kidding me. Our son and our niece are out there somewhere, God knows where being terrorized by some lunatics. Can you sleep? Can you rest? Steve - No but I haven't been through what you've been. Kayla - To hell with what I've been through. They have been kidnapped and I'm not going to rest until they are home safe and sound.

John follows Marlena into the town house. Cell's not working? Marlena - No, no. The power came back on so I was able to charge it before. I haven't been able to reach Shawn and Belle. They must be besides themselves knowing what's going on here right now. John hugs her - We're going to get through this Doc. Marlena - I feel like it's my fault. If I hadn't taken Claire out of the house ... John - Listen to me. Claire is smart as a whip and she is strong just like you are. She's going to find a way to outsmart these bastards. I know she will. She's going to lead us right to her and Joey.

Claire and Joey are tied up next to each other. Joe talks quietly - A plan, we have to have one. Claire - I have one. I just have to get my hands free. Joe replies but I couldn't understand him. Claire shushes him. Just chill out okay. I know exactly what I'm doing. Xander - I know you want to use these little brats as human shields to get us out of town but it could backfire on us too. Slow us down, get us caught or worse. Orpheus - Xander when I ask for your opinion you'll know I completely lost my mind. We're not adopting them. They are of value to us. When they cease to be we'll deal with them. Claire - You won't get away with this you know. My Grandfather will stop at nothing to have you back behind bars. Orpheus - Is that so. He points his gun at her - I can't tell you how much I look forward to getting the opportunity to do just that.

Steve - Sweetness, listen, I feel the same way you do but I am worried about you. You just had surgery. I worry about you getting so worked up. Kayla - I'm trying to stay calm. I want to be strong and I want to be here for Joey when he comes back. I'm going to take him in my arms and I'm going to hold him. She cries - I just want to hold him in my arms. That's all I want. Steve holds her. Kayla - We just need one clue, one lead. Steve - That's right so hold on to that. Kayla - Yeah.

Ciara and Theo are sitting in the squad room. Ciara - I keep thinking that I'm going to wake up from this horrible nightmare but it's not a nightmare, is it? It's actually happening. Those creeps have Claire and Joey. Theo - I just hope to God they're okay. I don't know what I'd do if anything happened to her or Joey. Ciara - Me neither. Theo - What? Ciara - Nothing. Theo - You're looking at me funny. Ciara - Well it's just something really lame to even be thinking of right now. Theo - Just say it. Ciara - Well I can see how worried you are especially about Claire and I know it's because you have a thing for her and I know that waiting and not knowing makes it harder on you. You really do care about Claire, don't you?

Rafe - With all due respect sir you are under a lot of stress. So are we but I think it's rather unfair of you to accuse us of incompetence when our men are working tirelessly around the clock to bring these fugitives in. Abe - Well then they're not working hard enough. This city is slipping into anarchy. The citizens are looting, brandishing firearms. If we don't get this under control this is not going to end well for anyone especially the hostages. I'm sorry, that was terribly insensitive. Hope - That's okay. Abe - No it's not. At the risk of losing one of my best detectives I would understand if you want to step back from this investigation to be with your family. Hope - No. Claire is my family. I'll get in touch with the Bureau. I'll report back to you as soon as I have something. Abe - Good, thank you. Rafe - Thank you sir. Abe leaves. Rafe - I'm sorry. He's under a lot of pressure. Hope says something about Claire and Joey. Rafe - We'll find them. Hug. Aiden watches.


Segment 2 Marlena - I wish I had as much confidence in Claire as you do. I know she's smart. I know she's tough but she's also so cavalier about this whole thing. She was barely listening when you had the family talk. John - You think that didn't register with me. That's why I reviewed everything with her again. He recalls the conversation. Hey pumpkin, did you hear anything I was talking about earlier. Claire removes her earphones. What? John - There's my answer. Claire - Hey Granddad I just put these ear buds in. Of course I was listening. John - I know you were. So hey just for the heck of it if something happens and you find yourself in danger what's your game plan? Silence. Pumpkin! I didn't give you this necklace to add to your bling collection sweetheart. I gave you this necklace because I love you so much and I want you always protected. Claire - I love you too. John - I know you do so listen to me very carefully. If you think for one moment that your life is in danger you just press this little charm thing here on your necklace okay. What it's going to do is activate a transponder and it's going to come right to my cell phone with your exact location. I will be right there, do you understand? Claire - I got it. Marlena - I'm glad you spoke to her. I'm glad she knows exactly what to do. I just hope she gets a chance to use the transponder. John - What we have to do is alert Steve and Kayla about that necklace. More than likely Orpheus will be holding Claire with Joey. With any luck we're going to be able to rescue both of them. Bring them home together.

Claire - Hey my Grandfather's so much smarter than you. You won't even see him coming. Orpheus - Well he certainly cares a great deal about you which means he'll do anything to get you back. He'll play right into my hand so you see it's a win-win for me. You and little Joey here are our get out of town free cards. Joe - If you get out of town. Do you really think our parents and the cops are just going to let you walk away not after you killed my Dad. Claire - OMG no Joey. You don't even know. OMG. He isn't dead. Your father is not dead. He outsmarted him with a Kevlar vest. Pulled one over on this jerk just like my Grandpa John will. Orpheus - I'll give you this kid you're old man is resourceful but his resources are about to run out. Joe - But he's alive. He's alive which means you're going down. Orpheus - Spare me the ? kids. Salem's in a state of chaos because of me and my crew. When we're ready to make our move we will strike and then you, well, most of you can get back to your boring, mundane lives. Xander - Only after we collect the ransom money for you punks. Orpheus - You talk to much. I'm going out to do a few things in preparation for the press conference this afternoon. Keep an eye on them. Xander - Why do I have to babysit. Orpheus - Because I asked you to. Xander - What about Clyde? Where's he disappeared to? Orpheus - Clyde has his own errand to attend to.

Clyde picks up a metal briefcase in the alley. Opens it - Yeah. He gets a call. Hey Jeremiah. I just picked up what you left for me and is it ever a beauty. It's a gun.


Segment 3 Ciara brings Theo a glass of water. So you never answered my question. Maybe I shouldn't have asked. I mean under these circumstances it is kind of trivial, right? Theo - I guess. Ciara - But hey, it's a distraction. We know that Joey and Claire are going to be fine. Theo - Yeah we do know that. Sure I have a thing for Claire but right now I'm worried about both of them, her and Joey. I just can't imagine how scared they must be. Ciara - I can. Unfortunately I know how terrifying it is.

Aiden comes into the interrogation room. Hey I heard about the raid on the docks. Any intel on the fugitives? Hope - A bunch of vigilantes decided to go after them. There was gunfire but no sign of the fugitives. Aiden - Sorry about Claire and Joey. I'm sure you're worried sick. Hope - Yeah I am. Excuse me. Aiden - Hope before you go there's something I want to talk to you about. Hope - Aiden please not now. Aiden - Yes Hope now. I really want ?

Steve - (John and Marlena are at the Johnson house). You are the man John! Always one step ahead. Kayla - I don't understand. If Claire has the device and she knows how to use it, what's the hold up? Why hasn't she activated it yet? Marlena - Well maybe she hasn't had a chance to use it yet. Or maybe Orpheus has discovered that she has it. Steve - If it looks like a necklace why would he suspect anything? John - He wouldn't. I'm sure Claire will find a way to activate the transponder. Kayla - We should get going. Abe's giving a press conference at the square. We should present a united front. Marlena - Yeah. The ladies leave the house. John - We can't underestimate Orpheus. If he feels the walls closing in he's going to exert his power so we're going to need to be ready to roll if those bastards make a move. Steve pulls back his jacket, he's got a gun. I'm ready.

Xander - Are you sure this plan of yours is going to work. Orpheus - If I wasn't sure I wouldn't be carrying it out, would I? Xander - Just asking. Orpheus - Instead of asking pointless questions why don't you focus on your part in said plan and remain silent. I'll be back shortly. Joe - What were you trying to say before? Claire - In my necklace ... Joe - What necklace? Claire notices it has fallen off. Oh God. No, no, no. My God. Xander yells - Quiet! I can't hear myself think with you two yammering on whining and complaining like the spoiled little brats you are. He gags Joey. He then gags Claire. Pathetic, entitled. Think ? don't you sweetheart. Well, think again. Joe sees the necklace on the floor.

Clyde lets himself in to a hotel room and opens the window. Oh this is perfect, just perfect.


Segment 4 Xander is on his cell. Good news my friend. So handling the transfer to the off shore account shouldn't be a problem. I do have a couple of questions though ... Stavros ... you're breaking up. Hold on. He steps out of the room. Joey knocks his chair over. Xander rushes in and sits him up. You try any crap like that again and I'll shut you up permanently and that goes for you too. Orpheus returns. Kiddies misbehaving? Xander - I say we throw them in a sack and drown them like kittens. Orpheus - Unfortunately they're worth more to us alive then dead. He starts unpacking the box he brought with him. Xander - What's all this going to do? Orpheus - You'll see. Claire looks down and doesn't see her necklace. Joe nods over his shoulder. Claire sees he has it in his hands.

Hope - You insist. Aiden - I would like for us to go somewhere a little more private so we can talk ... Hope - In case you haven't noticed there's a crisis of major proportion going on in Salem. And as District Attorney I'm sure there's something far more important to be doing rather than talking to me right now. Aiden won't let her leave - Hope, I'm just asking for a little time so you and I can talk ... Hope - I said no. Rafe comes in - What's going on? Hope - He wants to talk. Like I said this isn't a good time. She leaves. Rafe - See I thought we made ourselves clear, did we not. She doesn't want to have anything to do with you anymore. What's it going to take for you to get that through your thick skull. Aiden - I don't know who you think you're talking to but what I need to talk to her about is between she and I okay. It's personal. Rafe - I tell you what, I'm going to make it personal between me and you if you don't back the hell off. He leaves.

Clyde sets up the gun on the window sill. He answers his cell - Already to roll on this end brother. Orpheus - Well good. Remember, don't make a move until you hear from me. I want to make sure the good people of Salem get my message especially my enemies. Clyde - Yeah you and me both. I think my message is going to be a little more direct. BTW my man Jeremiah said the raid on the dock was courtesy of the Kiriakis kin. Orpheus - The old man seems to be losing his touch. From all the gunfire one would think Kiriakis and his men were convinced they had us cornered when in fact they weren't even close. Well maybe he's not in charge any longer. Clyde - Well Victor was definitely off his game during my time in Salem but I hear that his younger brother Deimos is alive. Together they could be a force to be reckoned with. Orpheus laughs - They'll be dead you fool and we'll be long gone before they have a chance to do anything to us.


Segment 5 Rafe and Hope are in the squad room. Rafe - You want to talk about what was going on between you and Aiden. He was pretty adamant that he had to talk to you about something. Hope - I have no idea what he wants to tell me. I don't get it. He's relentless. Maybe it's because I bandaged his hand at the pub the other night. Maybe he thinks there's still something between us. Rafe - You know what I think. I think he's the type of guy that's going to take anything, any moment big or small and put it under a microscope to try and find something he can hold on to. Hope - Maybe you're right. Rafe - I can't stand that he came back. You've got to deal with that on top of everything else. Hope - Thank God I have you though. Rafe - We should get going. Aiden skulks.

Abe walks up to Kayla and Marlena in the square. I've been at Police HQ all morning and we still don't have a lead on where Joe and Claire might be. I'm sorry. I wish I had better news. SWAT team's arrived. Look I will check in later. Steve is walking with John. What is taking Claire so long to activate that damn thing. John - She'll find a way. I know my ... granddaughter. WTH! Steve - What's wrong. John - No signal. Hell I don't even have any bars. Marlena - You can't get through. John - I had a signal earlier. Don't have anything now, damn it. Marlena - What if Claire's trying to reach us. What if she's trying to get through and she can't. What if she made the transponder work but she can't reach us. John - Doc, let's just hope that's not the case, okay.

Orpheus has everything set up. Showtime. Go and stand behind our guests. When I give you the cue remove the gag from Claire's mouth. Xander - Why, you want to let her cry for her grandparents. Orpheus - Use you head man. If we're going to get them to give us a ransom they're going to need to hear from one of the kids. It might as well be the one from the family with the most money. Xander - What if they give away our location. Orpheus - How on earth would they do that! Claire looks at the necklace.


Segment 6 Clyde lifts up the gun and looks through the scope. He sees Hope and Rafe show up then Aiden. S.O.B. He's the worst of them all.

The cameraman counts down for Abe. Abe - Good afternoon. I'm Mayor Abe Carver. These past few days have been harrowing and challenging for the people of Salem. Three convicted felons have conducted a reign of terror that has sparked panic and in some cases violence.

Xander and Orpheus are watching. Xander - Salem under siege. (That's what the scroll on the television says) I like the sound of that. Orpheus - Stay tuned my friend.

Abe - Despite the rolling blackouts this broadcast will be carried by all local news services.

Orpheus - The best is yet to come.

Abe - In an effort to inform the public that the Salem PD along with the FBI and the Mayor's office is doing everything in their power to apprehend these fugitives and to safely free the hostages. Now that having been said I must address the city wide looting, vandalism and vigilante activity. This kind of behaviour will not be condoned and tolerated. Anyone engaging in this type of activity will be arrested and charged to the fullest extent of the law. Now is not the time to forget who we are as citizens of Salem. This is our home. In spite what's going on now is the time to remember the pride we all have in our city. Clyde aims. Abe - For your own safety think before you act and please adhere to the curfew. And remember in a situation like this taking matters into your own hands is not the answer. Clyde's finger is on the trigger. Abe - I know you've all seen the pictures on the news. If you see any of these men please do not engage ...

Orpheus - I've had enough of this windbag.

Abe - Call 911 ...

Orpheus - Sorry to interrupt your speech Mayor Carver good as it is but it occurred to me that you and your fellow Salemites might like to see us in the flesh. Mug shots can be so unflattering, don't you think. I am Orpheus, part of the trio of terror that has as your own broadcast suggests, Salem under siege. And you're right Mr. Mayor, the good people of Salem should be afraid, very afraid because we're not going to stop until we get exactly what we want. Now if you'll permit me (he turns the camera on Joe and Claire) what is happening to these two could just as easily be happening to you. If we don't get what we want ... Rafe is on his cell - I want to know where the signal is coming from NOW. Xander removes Claire's gag. Hey Grandma, Granddad, please help us. Marlena - Dear God, she's not wearing the necklace. Clyde is aiming.


Segment 7 Rafe - I don't care how compromised the base station is find out where that signal is coming from damn it.

Orpheus - Now I realise Christmas is still a few months away but I must confess I've never been a patient man so with the help of my associates I managed to put together what me might call a wish list. 20 million dollars will be transferred into an untraceable offshore account of our choosing. We will of course be providing you with the routing and the account numbers. When we have received confirmation of the transfer and we are safely out of the country then and only then will we reveal the whereabouts of the hostages. But I warn you if our demands are not met chaos and terror will continue to spread across Salem like a plague. He turns off the camera.

Abe - How the hell do you follow that. Aiden - Need reassurance ? Abe - Yeah. Hope - Nothing yet? Rafe - Still hoping they'll be able to trace the signal. John - WTH happened to her necklace. Marlena - Pray to God they didn't find it.

Orpheus - Well that couldn't have gone any better. He's pouring champagne. I hope Clyde was able to enjoy the festivities. Claire whispers - Hey Joey press my necklace. Just do it! Joey presses.

Clyde holds the gun. John - Still no bars. Abe - Now you've seen first hand the lengths to which these felons will go to achieve their criminal ends. That is why it is crucial that now more than ever we as a community act not out of fear, not to exacerbate what is already a precarious and dangerous situation. We've faced challenges before and we've risen to them and we will do it again. Aiden slithers up to Hope - I know Hope. Abe - We need your cooperation. Aiden - I know you killed Stefano DiMera. He grins. Hope recalls shooting Stefano and then her conversation with Rafe in the interrogation room. Clyde turns on the red light on the scope. Abe - Only then can we bring these violent criminals to justice and free the hostages. Abe steps in front of Aiden just as Clyde pulls the trigger. Hope - Abe! Everyone in the square tries to take cover as Abe falls to his knees. Of course Aiden is flat on the ground under something. Theo - Dad! Dad! Everyone has guns pointed towards the hotel. John's cell is on the ground. Theo crawls over to Abe. Dad. Abe is in pain.
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JFC. I'm seeing slight improvement in the teens acting, except for VJ. Why is she still there? How are they still allowing her to air? Don't they have eyes and ears?
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Sep 29 2016, 01:15 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 01:02 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 12:56 PM

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How is Aiden not redeemable? His crimes weren't the worst ever on the show. :shrug: :-/
Aiden is only not redeemable because the show doesn't want to redeem him & just keeps trashing the character more & more because they want to prop Rope.
Redeeming Aiden would be fairly easy, given all he's basically done is lie. (& the blackmail is only possible because Hope has something to hide & she wouldn't if she were being written correctly.)
IMO the problem isn't Hope having something to hide, it's Rafe...Rafe was right Stefano goaded her...but Rafe's actions IMO are the biggest problem.

Is Aiden redeemable, of course not, but I don't find Rafe redeemable either, Hope could be.

She was manipulated by Deimos, she was manipulated by Stefano, she was manipulated by Rafe, IMO, and manipulated by the emotional distress she was going through. Rafe was just being a scum bucket, that decided who should get to go free and who should be punished just for the sure judgmental call of...Rafe Hernandez.
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Too bad tomorrow I won't be home watching days, because I have to go someplace for free pizza. Lol I usually choose days over pizza not this time. I'll watch it later. :pizza: :)
Edited by Ocean, Sep 29 2016, 02:47 PM.
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Sep 29 2016, 02:00 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 01:39 PM
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Let's not forget that Rafe is responsible for global warming, the Syrian refugee crisis, ISIS and Donald Trump's performance in the debate. :P
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It is so ironic that Aiden is being trashed to prop Rope, just like Bo had to be trashed and dismantled to prop the romance of Hope and Aiden. Irony!
:shrug: Except Rafe's stupidity actually WAS what prompted Andre to find Stefano, etc.

And sorry not sorry, but Bope wasn't trashed for Haiden, Bope was trashed for Rope, hence Bo giving Rafe his "blessing" :x - Haiden was a go-between that Higley had NO intention of keeping around once she was back in charge & her boy-toy needed another love interest. Pairing Rafe & Hope is disgusting, boring, and a vain effort to give his character something he doesn't have on his own - relevance. :coffee:
THIS!!
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Today was good excluding smug Rafe and annoying Ciara...She bores Theo down

Claire smart?? sounds like two words that go together like hammer skull.
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Abe is so damn good.
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The show is still trying to victimize Hope and Rafe. I'm not here for that. I hate Aiden too. The three of them can go to jail together.
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My show got cut because of a tornado warning. I gotta say, I was kinda bored by today's episode. It does sound like the ending was good, though. I just have no patience for the Rafe/Hope/Aiden story. They really need to move on from that.
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Sep 29 2016, 02:49 PM
The show is still trying to victimize Hope and Rafe. I'm not here for that. I hate Aiden too. The three of them can go to jail together.
I think Aiden is more likely to be killed the question is by who?

Clyde?
Hope?
Rafe??
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Lol I want Xander hide himself inside Kirikis mansion and when he sees Maggie walking with her cruches shoot her more than once until she dies.
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am103
Sep 29 2016, 02:25 PM
How is Aiden still even on this show? He is just as irrelevant and infuriating to me as Deimos. Not appealing in the slightest.
Strangely I find Aiden far more interesting than both Hope and Rafe ;)
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Sep 29 2016, 02:49 PM
The show is still trying to victimize Hope and Rafe. I'm not here for that. I hate Aiden too. The three of them can go to jail together.
I think Aiden is more likely to be killed the question is by who?

Clyde?
Hope?
Rafe??
Probably by one of the vilains. They have to finally succeed and kill somebody, so far they're failures.
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Sep 29 2016, 02:53 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 02:49 PM
The show is still trying to victimize Hope and Rafe. I'm not here for that. I hate Aiden too. The three of them can go to jail together.
I think Aiden is more likely to be killed the question is by who?

Clyde?
Hope?
Rafe??
Definitely by Rafe.
Edited by Ocean, Sep 29 2016, 03:15 PM.
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Sep 29 2016, 03:14 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 02:53 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 02:49 PM
The show is still trying to victimize Hope and Rafe. I'm not here for that. I hate Aiden too. The three of them can go to jail together.
I think Aiden is more likely to be killed the question is by who?

Clyde?
Hope?
Rafe??
Definitely by Rafe.
Maybe Hope going to jail is because she shoots Aiden, just so Hope doesn't fall on her sword for Rafe killing Aiden, that I couldn't handle.

I'm ok with Clyde doing it, especially if it bothers Hope or Aiden's recording is found that proves Hope shot Stefano.

That way, Hope goes to jail and Rafe gets kicked back off the force. I mean he can't even figure out that his brother is a criminal.
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What's with all the long flashbacks? Is this coming from Dena? I seem to remember another time period where we would have flashbacks in every episode. I'm pretty sure it was MarDar who came in saying they were not going to be using them and everyone rejoiced.

The level of reliance on them is ridiculous! They're not necessary and drag the episode down.
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Ocean
Sep 29 2016, 03:14 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 02:53 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 02:49 PM
The show is still trying to victimize Hope and Rafe. I'm not here for that. I hate Aiden too. The three of them can go to jail together.
I think Aiden is more likely to be killed the question is by who?

Clyde?
Hope?
Rafe??
Definitely by Rafe.
Only if he means Rafe goes to jail and leaves the show. Otherwise smug Rafe acting like he's a good guy wearing a badge is what we have now and it's already terrible.

Rafe is not leading man material. He's barely supporting actor material and putting him in that position time and again brings whatever story he's in down and limits opportunities for far better actors.
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Sep 29 2016, 03:24 PM
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Sep 29 2016, 03:14 PM
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Definitely by Rafe.
Only if he means Rafe goes to jail and leaves the show. Otherwise smug Rafe acting like he's a good guy wearing a badge is what we have now and it's already terrible.

Rafe is not leading man material. He's barely supporting actor material and putting him in that position time and again brings whatever story he's in down and limits opportunities for far better actors.
Rafe went from one of my favorites to Andre...how could you botch that job??
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Ok I realize this is random and I love that Claire is finally all about Marlena and John as grandma and grandpa... But even today she was calling out for help for her grandma and grandpa to save her. Her other grandmother,hope, is a cop... Why not just say 'please help us?' I almost feel like the writers also forgot that tidbit.
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