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Friday, September 30th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 29 2016, 05:55 PM (10,258 Views)
moniker11


Good episode. Agreed on the flashbacks. They're unnecessary, especially when the scene they show was just a couple of days ago.

OKR is growing on me more and more and JL is also improving. Though he had nowhere to go but up.

Love that John was being all rational and planning, while Steve was frantic and didn't care about anything other than getting to Joey no matter the cost.

Marlena was perfect. Trying to be understanding all the while silently going insane because Claire is missing and John's not answering his freaking phone.

The show is far from perfect but it is improving and is far more watchable. Keep it up Days.
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DocandJohn4ever
Sep 30 2016, 05:09 PM
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Sep 30 2016, 01:22 PM
I didn't like the scenes with Marlena and Theo. What is that about? Marlena has been a friend to Abe forever, and Theo's entire life, so I expected him to lean on her, not to treat her like she was nobody, and to actually yell at her. Just wrong. And I don't care if he's upset. He can be nice to Ciara but not Marlena?
He has autism and he's scared he just saw his only parent gunned down... I actually liked those scenes she was doing her best to try to calm him down and reassure him he wasn't alone before Ciara came and made things worse.

As for Ciara he grew up with her shes his best friend he's more comfortable around her it makes sense he'd respond better to her.
Fine, but then when he calmed down he should have felt bad for yelling at her and either said he was sorry or gave her a non-verbal hug (though autistic Theo never seems to act like he is awkward with expressing his feelings). As for Ciara, like I said, he grew up knowing Marlena as one of Abe's closest friends, as well as Lexie's, so he should feel comfortable with her as well. Comfortable enough to know enough to apologize, or seek comfort from her. What he yelled at her made no sense to me.
Edited by Rosebud, Oct 1 2016, 12:06 AM.
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Is that the first time Steve and JJ had a scene(short as it was) together?
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Rosebud
Oct 1 2016, 12:00 AM
DocandJohn4ever
Sep 30 2016, 05:09 PM
Rosebud
Sep 30 2016, 01:22 PM
I didn't like the scenes with Marlena and Theo. What is that about? Marlena has been a friend to Abe forever, and Theo's entire life, so I expected him to lean on her, not to treat her like she was nobody, and to actually yell at her. Just wrong. And I don't care if he's upset. He can be nice to Ciara but not Marlena?
He has autism and he's scared he just saw his only parent gunned down... I actually liked those scenes she was doing her best to try to calm him down and reassure him he wasn't alone before Ciara came and made things worse.

As for Ciara he grew up with her shes his best friend he's more comfortable around her it makes sense he'd respond better to her.
Fine, but then when he calmed down he should have felt bad for yelling at her and either said he was sorry or gave her a non-verbal hug (though autistic Theo never seems to act like he is awkward with expressing his feelings).
We've had maybe a grand total of 5 Marlena/Theo scenes since he's been born. I'm sort of exaggerating and sort of being generous. We've had TONS of Ciara/Theo scenes, though. Theo's upset about his dad nearly dying. Preserving Marlena's feelings should be the last thing on his mind. Nothing has been established that would imply Marlena is a person Theo would lean on in a crisis. He also wasn't exactly nice to Ciara either. He yelled at her, too.
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Bellarke <3

Rosebud
Oct 1 2016, 12:00 AM
DocandJohn4ever
Sep 30 2016, 05:09 PM
Rosebud
Sep 30 2016, 01:22 PM
I didn't like the scenes with Marlena and Theo. What is that about? Marlena has been a friend to Abe forever, and Theo's entire life, so I expected him to lean on her, not to treat her like she was nobody, and to actually yell at her. Just wrong. And I don't care if he's upset. He can be nice to Ciara but not Marlena?
He has autism and he's scared he just saw his only parent gunned down... I actually liked those scenes she was doing her best to try to calm him down and reassure him he wasn't alone before Ciara came and made things worse.

As for Ciara he grew up with her shes his best friend he's more comfortable around her it makes sense he'd respond better to her.
Fine, but then when he calmed down he should have felt bad for yelling at her and either said he was sorry or gave her a non-verbal hug (though autistic Theo never seems to act like he is awkward with expressing his feelings). As for Ciara, like I said, he grew up knowing Marlena as one of Abe's closest friends, as well as Lexie's, so he should feel comfortable with her as well. Comfortable enough to know enough to apologize, or seek comfort from her. What he yelled at her made no sense to me.
Well, Marlena and John were in Switzerland for a while when Theo was growing up. :ermm: I seriously don't think Marlena really cared that Theo yelled at her. She was more worried about her friend, husband, and kidnapped granddaughter. I'd think she would understand that Theo was going through a lot at the time.
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Another thing about the scenes with Marlena and Theo and Ciara, it was nice to see Marlena get upset and have to escape that waiting area, but there was no scene to follow through. It's like Marlena's feelings don't matter very much. I wanted to know what she was feeling and why she ran off like that. I had to invent a scene in my own head to explain it. They cared more about letting me know how all this was affecting Ciara. And then with the Kayla/Marlena scene, it felt like they were talking at each other not to each other. There was this distance between them, like they barely knew each other. Why aren't they breaking down in each other's arms? Kayla's scenes with the nurse were more connected.
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Oct 1 2016, 12:15 AM
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Oct 1 2016, 12:00 AM
DocandJohn4ever
Sep 30 2016, 05:09 PM

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Fine, but then when he calmed down he should have felt bad for yelling at her and either said he was sorry or gave her a non-verbal hug (though autistic Theo never seems to act like he is awkward with expressing his feelings). As for Ciara, like I said, he grew up knowing Marlena as one of Abe's closest friends, as well as Lexie's, so he should feel comfortable with her as well. Comfortable enough to know enough to apologize, or seek comfort from her. What he yelled at her made no sense to me.
Well, Marlena and John were in Switzerland for a while when Theo was growing up. :ermm: I seriously don't think Marlena really cared that Theo yelled at her. She was more worried about her friend, husband, and kidnapped granddaughter. I'd think she would understand that Theo was going through a lot at the time.
That wasn't my problem with it. I don't think it bothered Marlena at all, and it shouldn't have, but as a viewer I didn't like it. It felt wrong to me. I wanted to see something we're they connected. To me,k it's typical Dena Higley, where she just loves to have people be mean to Marlena. It's a long established pattern. And this was just another reminder for me that Higley hates Marlena.
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anzu


I have a real soft spot for Theo and the actor is definitely coming into his own. He did a great job today. Ciara.... sigh she tried. It takes her sooo long to get a line out. Thank you Quigley for all things AbexTheo. Only parentxchild scenes I adore more are AdriennexSonny and SonnyxAri.

The best thing the writers could have done for Claire and Joey was put them in danger because, lo and behold, Claire has a brain and Joey has courage! Who knew? The acting however....Claire was bad, particularly when Steve and John caught her.

I appreciate Hope not making "Aiden knows" priority today. She and Rafe actually did their jobs.

As for the trio....prediction: I think Xander's gonna get killed by Orpheus or the PD. I would say Xander's going to snap on Orpheus, but I feel like John or Roman will have to take him down for the audience to care. Clyde's going to go to jail for Aiden if he dies (Hope's wheels are probably already spinning a new cover-up murder scheme).

There were highs and lows but overall, I quite enjoyed the week.
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Sep 30 2016, 02:26 PM
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Sep 30 2016, 02:24 PM
Cimz
Sep 30 2016, 01:50 PM
I assume the Kiriakis side of the canvas skipped the press conference because they don't care about anyone who has not moved into their house. Poor Abe didn't need Brady heckling him anyway.
:blulaugh: :blulaugh: :blulaugh:
Maybe they thought standing in the middle of Horton Town Square with only the Keystone cops protecting them, was kind of dangerous.
Not to mention pointless. Maybe that's why the majority of the terrified town didn't show up. The Salem PD hasn't caught a criminal by themselves in decades. What was the point of wasting power on that besides for the criminals to interrupt lol. The Kiriakas and Dimera households had the right idea today.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Sep 30 2016, 12:05 PM
Lovejm
Sep 30 2016, 11:58 AM
Claire hugs hope at the PD. Sad joey isn't there. Aiden egging hope on
Did she day "grandma!!" or are they just "family"... lol :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
do you have the picture smaller
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Oct 1 2016, 12:15 AM
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Oct 1 2016, 12:00 AM
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Sep 30 2016, 05:09 PM

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Fine, but then when he calmed down he should have felt bad for yelling at her and either said he was sorry or gave her a non-verbal hug (though autistic Theo never seems to act like he is awkward with expressing his feelings). As for Ciara, like I said, he grew up knowing Marlena as one of Abe's closest friends, as well as Lexie's, so he should feel comfortable with her as well. Comfortable enough to know enough to apologize, or seek comfort from her. What he yelled at her made no sense to me.
Well, Marlena and John were in Switzerland for a while when Theo was growing up. :ermm: I seriously don't think Marlena really cared that Theo yelled at her. She was more worried about her friend, husband, and kidnapped granddaughter. I'd think she would understand that Theo was going through a lot at the time.
I'm glad Theo was allowed to act out also. Everyone on this show tends to be controlled and calm in crises. He's an autistic teen who could lose his only parent. He was nasty to Ciara too. And I like even having Marlena try to be there for Theo but super distracted by her worry about John and Claire.
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Pretty fun if not wholly sensical episode, so many people were involved which was definitely the best part. Loved Kayla and Marlena. Loved poor Theo. Did not mind that Aiden and Hope stuff was playing out through the larger drama. I thought the teens were used well.

But. I keep wondering which is going to be the cop episode where JJ fucks up and gets suspended from the police force. Because I'm still not into him as a cop, even though it has afforded some nice family interactions. And when Shawn comes back, there's just going to be too many cops. I was hoping for a minute that when Rafe was yelling "Where's JJ" that he would have been found asleep on the job or something and gotten in trouble. At the very least, can't he be the rogue young cop who breaks too many rules? He doesn't need to be an outright brat or anything, but he's just been so dull (if sweet) lately.
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Thank you JCP.

J.J. reminds me of Steve, he really shouldn't be a cop. Put him in with Black Patch.
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Rosebud
Oct 1 2016, 12:00 AM
DocandJohn4ever
Sep 30 2016, 05:09 PM
Rosebud
Sep 30 2016, 01:22 PM
I didn't like the scenes with Marlena and Theo. What is that about? Marlena has been a friend to Abe forever, and Theo's entire life, so I expected him to lean on her, not to treat her like she was nobody, and to actually yell at her. Just wrong. And I don't care if he's upset. He can be nice to Ciara but not Marlena?
He has autism and he's scared he just saw his only parent gunned down... I actually liked those scenes she was doing her best to try to calm him down and reassure him he wasn't alone before Ciara came and made things worse.

As for Ciara he grew up with her shes his best friend he's more comfortable around her it makes sense he'd respond better to her.
Fine, but then when he calmed down he should have felt bad for yelling at her and either said he was sorry or gave her a non-verbal hug (though autistic Theo never seems to act like he is awkward with expressing his feelings). As for Ciara, like I said, he grew up knowing Marlena as one of Abe's closest friends, as well as Lexie's, so he should feel comfortable with her as well. Comfortable enough to know enough to apologize, or seek comfort from her. What he yelled at her made no sense to me.
It's entirely possible Theo doesn't get that yelling at Marlena was something he needs to apologize for due to his autism. All he knows is that his dad was hurt (?) and he's upset. Yeah they learn to pick up on social cues as they get older but it's something he'll always have to deal with from what I understand.

I didn't watch the episode but was Marlena even upset? I mean she's a doctor. She should get it and be fine with it.
Edited by laurondo, Oct 2 2016, 02:13 AM.
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laurondo
Oct 2 2016, 02:13 AM
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Sep 30 2016, 05:09 PM

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Fine, but then when he calmed down he should have felt bad for yelling at her and either said he was sorry or gave her a non-verbal hug (though autistic Theo never seems to act like he is awkward with expressing his feelings). As for Ciara, like I said, he grew up knowing Marlena as one of Abe's closest friends, as well as Lexie's, so he should feel comfortable with her as well. Comfortable enough to know enough to apologize, or seek comfort from her. What he yelled at her made no sense to me.
It's entirely possible Theo doesn't get that yelling at Marlena was something he needs to apologize for due to his autism. All he knows is that his dad was hurt (?) and he's upset. Yeah they learn to pick up on social cues as they get older but it's something he'll always have to deal with from what I understand.

I didn't watch the episode but was Marlena even upset? I mean she's a doctor. She should get it and be fine with it.
She wasn't. He wasn't really yelling at her. He was kind of yelling in general and she happened to be the person there. It has nothing to do with her.
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Lovejm


Had to watch this ep in pieces but it was definitely enjoyable. Marlena really was upset and I thought Theo was good too. Ciara continues to be a weak spot
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Forgot to mention, Cop Hope is still enjoyable. Rafe Hope is not.
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