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Spoilers for the Week of October 10th
Topic Started: Sep 30 2016, 11:16 PM (22,329 Views)
Hugo


OMG!!! Andre actually tries to kill Chad and gives Thomas to Clyde?
Thaao wasn't kidding when he said he would do something diabolical.

Nevermind, just read the last tweet that says "all is not what it seems." :blulaugh:
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Oct 5 2016, 04:37 PM
OMG!!! Andre actually tries to kill Chad and gives Thomas to Clyde?
Thaao wasn't kidding when he said he would do something diabolical.
It sounds like a set-up if you look at the last tweet. I absolutely loathe Andre having anything to do with Thomas after what he has done. I hate this Chad/Andre/Kate stuff.
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Oct 5 2016, 04:40 PM
Hugo
Oct 5 2016, 04:37 PM
OMG!!! Andre actually tries to kill Chad and gives Thomas to Clyde?
Thaao wasn't kidding when he said he would do something diabolical.
It sounds like a set-up if you look at the last tweet. I absolutely loathe Andre having anything to do with Thomas after what he has done. I hate this Chad/Andre/Kate stuff.
Me too. And if it is a set up Chad and Andre will be even closer.
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Hugo
Oct 5 2016, 04:37 PM
OMG!!! Andre actually tries to kill Chad and gives Thomas to Clyde?
Thaao wasn't kidding when he said he would do something diabolical.
It sounds like a set-up if you look at the last tweet. I absolutely loathe Andre having anything to do with Thomas after what he has done. I hate this Chad/Andre/Kate stuff.
Me too. And if it is a set up Chad and Andre will be even closer.
I hope Chad finds out that Andre made him believe that Abby was dead and that it will be the last straw.
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Oct 5 2016, 04:48 PM
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Me too. And if it is a set up Chad and Andre will be even closer.
I hope Chad finds out that Andre made him believe that Abby was dead and that it will be the last straw.
I bet Dena keeps them close. Her stupid reborn dimeras.
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Andre outwits Clyde?

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Jennifer, go away. You wanted to take Thomas because Chad is a Dimera and now you don't care that your cousin is a murderer.
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Wow.

There is a lot of stupid in those spoilers.

Dena gonna Dena.
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Oct 5 2016, 04:52 PM
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I hope Chad finds out that Andre made him believe that Abby was dead and that it will be the last straw.
I bet Dena keeps them close. Her stupid reborn dimeras.
She better not! :censored:
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Sounds good to me I guess :shrug:
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My reaction to this: :facepalm:

Does no one in Salem give a shit that Hope murdered a man & has been keeping it a secret for the better part of a year? And how come Hope can just tell Jen that Aiden's blackmailing her, but can't tell Rafe? lol. This story was stupid to begin with, but with this, it just became even stupider!

Watch, next week, Jen sets up a secret meeting between Hope & Rafe in the tunnels. RME.
I think Jen probably cares, but why would she rat out her cousin and best friend for decades?
When JJ told Jennifer that he cheated on Paige with Eve, she didn't tell Paige but she did encourage JJ to confess. I'm hoping Jennifer will at least do that much with Hope, without any active cover-up assistance.

In reality, I think confessing tends to make plea bargaining a sentence down less likely, so if Hope wants to lessen her time in jail she should not confess. But this is Salem, not reality, and maybe she should want to confess just because it's the right thing to do.

When you think about it, Hope telling Jennifer at all puts Jennifer in a really tough situation. Even though I think it's about time that Hope confesses, it seems a little ... inconsiderate? on Hope's part. I don't think Jennifer is legally obligated to report Hope's confession to law enforcement before a trial but she'd have to know that keeping a secret like that is a big deal. Why draw Jennifer into it? Especially as others pointed out, Hope already has a confidant in Rafe. What is Jennifer supposed to do about anything?
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I think Jen probably cares, but why would she rat out her cousin and best friend for decades?
When JJ told Jennifer that he cheated on Paige with Eve, she didn't tell Paige but she did encourage JJ to confess. I'm hoping Jennifer will at least do that much with Hope, without any active cover-up assistance.

In reality, I think confessing tends to make plea bargaining a sentence down less likely, so if Hope wants to lessen her time in jail she should not confess. But this is Salem, not reality, and maybe she should want to confess just because it's the right thing to do.

When you think about it, Hope telling Jennifer at all puts Jennifer in a really tough situation. Even though I think it's about time that Hope confesses, it seems a little ... inconsiderate? on Hope's part. I don't think Jennifer is legally obligated to report Hope's confession to law enforcement before a trial but she'd have to know that keeping a secret like that is a big deal. Why draw Jennifer into it? Especially as others pointed out, Hope already has a confidant in Rafe. What is Jennifer supposed to do about anything?
I'm hoping this taps into Jennifer's investigative skills and she's the one who discovers either more skeletons in Aiden's closet OR that Aiden did indeed kill Meredith! I love Jennifer is being pulled into the story and their tight friendship is highlighted again.

There are some cool rumors floating that Meredith may be the daughter and Chase the grandson in the picture Orpheus showed Joey in today's episode. If it comes out Aiden killed Orpheus' daughter it'd be fantastic soap if Orpheus kills Aiden in retribution! That'd be a very clever wrap up.
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When JJ told Jennifer that he cheated on Paige with Eve, she didn't tell Paige but she did encourage JJ to confess. I'm hoping Jennifer will at least do that much with Hope, without any active cover-up assistance.

In reality, I think confessing tends to make plea bargaining a sentence down less likely, so if Hope wants to lessen her time in jail she should not confess. But this is Salem, not reality, and maybe she should want to confess just because it's the right thing to do.

When you think about it, Hope telling Jennifer at all puts Jennifer in a really tough situation. Even though I think it's about time that Hope confesses, it seems a little ... inconsiderate? on Hope's part. I don't think Jennifer is legally obligated to report Hope's confession to law enforcement before a trial but she'd have to know that keeping a secret like that is a big deal. Why draw Jennifer into it? Especially as others pointed out, Hope already has a confidant in Rafe. What is Jennifer supposed to do about anything?
I'm hoping this taps into Jennifer's investigative skills and she's the one who discovers either more skeletons in Aiden's closet OR that Aiden did indeed kill Meredith! I love Jennifer is being pulled into the story and their tight friendship is highlighted again.

There are some cool rumors floating that Meredith may be the daughter and Chase the grandson in the picture Orpheus showed Joey in today's episode. If it comes out Aiden killed Orpheus' daughter it'd be fantastic soap if Orpheus kills Aiden in retribution! That'd be a very clever wrap up.
Well, it depends. If Jennifer tries to dig up dirt on Aiden in order to hinder Hope's arrest, then that is a crime and I think she'd become an accessory after the fact. She has no legal obligation to report Hope's confession but she is legally obligated to not obstruct justice in any way. If Jennifer plans to use any dirt on Aiden to prevent him from pressing charges against Hope, then regardless of Aiden's history with Hope I'm pretty sure that's a crime. I'm not a legal expert and all I did was google for 60 seconds so I could be wrong, but I'm hoping right now that Jennifer isn't pulled into all of this in a major way. I want her to be investigating again, but no blackmail. If she's trying to uncover Aiden's crimes for its own sake, without any intention of protecting Hope, that'd be okay by me.
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When JJ told Jennifer that he cheated on Paige with Eve, she didn't tell Paige but she did encourage JJ to confess. I'm hoping Jennifer will at least do that much with Hope, without any active cover-up assistance.

In reality, I think confessing tends to make plea bargaining a sentence down less likely, so if Hope wants to lessen her time in jail she should not confess. But this is Salem, not reality, and maybe she should want to confess just because it's the right thing to do.

When you think about it, Hope telling Jennifer at all puts Jennifer in a really tough situation. Even though I think it's about time that Hope confesses, it seems a little ... inconsiderate? on Hope's part. I don't think Jennifer is legally obligated to report Hope's confession to law enforcement before a trial but she'd have to know that keeping a secret like that is a big deal. Why draw Jennifer into it? Especially as others pointed out, Hope already has a confidant in Rafe. What is Jennifer supposed to do about anything?
I'm hoping this taps into Jennifer's investigative skills and she's the one who discovers either more skeletons in Aiden's closet OR that Aiden did indeed kill Meredith! I love Jennifer is being pulled into the story and their tight friendship is highlighted again.

There are some cool rumors floating that Meredith may be the daughter and Chase the grandson in the picture Orpheus showed Joey in today's episode. If it comes out Aiden killed Orpheus' daughter it'd be fantastic soap if Orpheus kills Aiden in retribution! That'd be a very clever wrap up.
It wouldn't for me. Orpheus crossing into that mess of a story is a nightmare for me
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I'm hoping this taps into Jennifer's investigative skills and she's the one who discovers either more skeletons in Aiden's closet OR that Aiden did indeed kill Meredith! I love Jennifer is being pulled into the story and their tight friendship is highlighted again.

There are some cool rumors floating that Meredith may be the daughter and Chase the grandson in the picture Orpheus showed Joey in today's episode. If it comes out Aiden killed Orpheus' daughter it'd be fantastic soap if Orpheus kills Aiden in retribution! That'd be a very clever wrap up.
Well, it depends. If Jennifer tries to dig up dirt on Aiden in order to hinder Hope's arrest, then that is a crime and I think she'd become an accessory after the fact. She has no legal obligation to report Hope's confession but she is legally obligated to not obstruct justice in any way. If Jennifer plans to use any dirt on Aiden to prevent him from pressing charges against Hope, then regardless of Aiden's history with Hope I'm pretty sure that's a crime. I'm not a legal expert and all I did was google for 60 seconds so I could be wrong, but I'm hoping right now that Jennifer isn't pulled into all of this in a major way. I want her to be investigating again, but no blackmail. If she's trying to uncover Aiden's crimes for its own sake, without any intention of protecting Hope, that'd be okay by me.
If Aiden killed his wife that's a heinous crime. Jennifer getting back to her roots to uncover this would be fun to watch. Im all for her jumping in and getting a juicy investigative story. I don't know if it will go that way, but I'd like Jennifer getting the itch to go back to the Spectator.

Im pretty confident Hope will confess and get her jail time, so I'm not stressing over whether Jennifer is hindering anything. It's a soap. Crimes are aplenty. Realistic punishments rare. Let's see a woman take charge and be the one to bring a lunatic down.
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Oct 5 2016, 07:36 PM
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Well, it depends. If Jennifer tries to dig up dirt on Aiden in order to hinder Hope's arrest, then that is a crime and I think she'd become an accessory after the fact. She has no legal obligation to report Hope's confession but she is legally obligated to not obstruct justice in any way. If Jennifer plans to use any dirt on Aiden to prevent him from pressing charges against Hope, then regardless of Aiden's history with Hope I'm pretty sure that's a crime. I'm not a legal expert and all I did was google for 60 seconds so I could be wrong, but I'm hoping right now that Jennifer isn't pulled into all of this in a major way. I want her to be investigating again, but no blackmail. If she's trying to uncover Aiden's crimes for its own sake, without any intention of protecting Hope, that'd be okay by me.
If Aiden killed his wife that's a heinous crime. Jennifer getting back to her roots to uncover this would be fun to watch. Im all for her jumping in and getting a juicy investigative story. I don't know if it will go that way, but I'd like Jennifer getting the itch to go back to the Spectator.

Im pretty confident Hope will confess and get her jail time, so I'm not stressing over whether Jennifer is hindering anything. It's a soap. Crimes are aplenty. Realistic punishments rare. Let's see a woman take charge and be the one to bring a lunatic down.
Oh we're disagreeing on different things. Jennifer helping I'm totally for. Orpheus being chases grandfather is a big no lol
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Well, it depends. If Jennifer tries to dig up dirt on Aiden in order to hinder Hope's arrest, then that is a crime and I think she'd become an accessory after the fact. She has no legal obligation to report Hope's confession but she is legally obligated to not obstruct justice in any way. If Jennifer plans to use any dirt on Aiden to prevent him from pressing charges against Hope, then regardless of Aiden's history with Hope I'm pretty sure that's a crime. I'm not a legal expert and all I did was google for 60 seconds so I could be wrong, but I'm hoping right now that Jennifer isn't pulled into all of this in a major way. I want her to be investigating again, but no blackmail. If she's trying to uncover Aiden's crimes for its own sake, without any intention of protecting Hope, that'd be okay by me.
If Aiden killed his wife that's a heinous crime. Jennifer getting back to her roots to uncover this would be fun to watch. Im all for her jumping in and getting a juicy investigative story. I don't know if it will go that way, but I'd like Jennifer getting the itch to go back to the Spectator.

Im pretty confident Hope will confess and get her jail time, so I'm not stressing over whether Jennifer is hindering anything. It's a soap. Crimes are aplenty. Realistic punishments rare. Let's see a woman take charge and be the one to bring a lunatic down.
Even though crimes are plentiful, I don't think they should be. Inevitably it devalues their significance, which is not just bad from a moral standpoint, it hinders the impact of crimes as plot points. Why should the audience care that villains do these big bad things if everyone in Salem does them anyway? Also, the idea of Jennifer and Hope covering up a crime together seriously reminds me of Kate and Sami helping Gabi cover up Nick's death. And for me that totally had an impact on how I saw the characters, it was part of my slowly becoming done with Kate. Yes Nick was attempting a terrible crime, but if so, why didn't Gabi just claim self defense? Why did Kate and Sami convince her to cover it up? It's both dumb and duplicitous. Lastly I actually like Jennifer the girl scout, she gets on people's nerves for being perky and boring but I actually like her for her idealism, and while she's allowed to make mistakes and have bad days I think covering up something like murder would cross a line.

But like I said if she investigates Aiden for its own sake that's not a problem for me. I'd prefer her to encourage Hope to turn herself in, but at the very least she shouldn't aid a cover-up. I don't know how Tom's cover-up of Bill's rape of Laura played at the time, but perhaps it had a lot to do with how rape was seen back in the day, I don't know. But I can't recall a time when justice for murder (even manslaughter) was trumped by social convention. I've brought up Agatha Christie's Murder on the Orient Express before as a comparison point for this idea that if the victim is heinous enough, maybe people wouldn't care if his killer was brought to justice. But there needs to be some acknowledgment that the cover-up does indeed cross a line, at the very least.
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I think Jen probably cares, but why would she rat out her cousin and best friend for decades?
When JJ told Jennifer that he cheated on Paige with Eve, she didn't tell Paige but she did encourage JJ to confess. I'm hoping Jennifer will at least do that much with Hope, without any active cover-up assistance.

In reality, I think confessing tends to make plea bargaining a sentence down less likely, so if Hope wants to lessen her time in jail she should not confess. But this is Salem, not reality, and maybe she should want to confess just because it's the right thing to do.

When you think about it, Hope telling Jennifer at all puts Jennifer in a really tough situation. Even though I think it's about time that Hope confesses, it seems a little ... inconsiderate? on Hope's part. I don't think Jennifer is legally obligated to report Hope's confession to law enforcement before a trial but she'd have to know that keeping a secret like that is a big deal. Why draw Jennifer into it? Especially as others pointed out, Hope already has a confidant in Rafe. What is Jennifer supposed to do about anything?
Yeah, I agree. There doesn't seem to be any point to Hope confiding in Jennifer other than for her to have another shoulder to cry on. I'm still mad Jennifer never said anything to Hope about the way Ciara was behaving.
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Oct 5 2016, 04:37 PM
OMG!!! Andre actually tries to kill Chad and gives Thomas to Clyde?
Thaao wasn't kidding when he said he would do something diabolical.

Nevermind, just read the last tweet that says "all is not what it seems." :blulaugh:
still sounds evil to me
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Well hopefully Andre and Chad are playing Clyde because enough of the DiMeras tearing into each other
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Oct 5 2016, 04:33 PM
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Oct 5 2016, 04:17 PM
so let me get this straight...

Chad falls apart when Abby "dies" and Jen tries to take their son
Jen uses drugs and everybody freaks
Eric drives drunk and causes an accident that ends with a fatality...and he goes to jail

but....

Hope kills a man in a wheel chair in cold blood (mind you a scum bag)... but still innocent of what she was accusing him up, and every body understands

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If someone she loves had a negative reaction, it would actually make me more sympathetic towards Hope. Like if someone reacted like this: "I never thought you would be capable of doing something like this. I don't know who you are anymore." But everyone is so understanding, it's disturbing.
I don't expect Jen to turn her in, but to encourage her to come forward.

Not to understand that Stefano was scum... i need someone to be outraged...the only one outraged is Andre.
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