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Donald Trumps latest scandal involves Arianne Zucker and DOOL set
Topic Started: Oct 7 2016, 04:26 PM (50,235 Views)
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Oct 7 2016, 07:13 PM
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Oct 7 2016, 06:51 PM
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Actually Hollywood has shown they have no morals when they openly support a corrupt candidate because she's a woman. What Trump said was totally uncalled for and wrong but he has stood up and apologized. And maybe I misunderstood but do people actually believe his words are the same as rape?? Because you have to be touched to be raped. Shocking, I know. I do feel bad for Ari because the media will go on a feeding frenzy.
I'll join you in being unpopular here, but I do agree with you to an extent. Any moral outrage from Hillary and co is laughable considering her excuses for her husband getting bj's in the oval office while he was president. Trump's comments, while disgusting and totally inappropriate, were said while he was a private citizen, not while he was running for president and not while he was holding office. I'm not excusing what he's said, I just think the "moral outrage" from some is ridiculous, all things considered. I'm interested to see if this changes anything. There's still a month before the election and supposedly they are really tight in the polls. If it does hurt Trump, I wonder if it will stick until November 8th? His die-hard supporters don't seem to care what he says. This has been one of the nastiest, mud-slinging elections that I can remember. :shame:
I think the BJ was consensual....
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Bill Clinton isn't running,if a women slept with my husband I wouldn't take the women out for a girls day,I would leave my husband,buts it none of my business to tell others what to do in their relationship,typical Trump supporter everytime Trump says or does something stupid they go to something Bill or Hillary did or said,as if that obsolves Trump of HIS actions,I don't care right now what Bill has said or done,THIS comment has zero to do with him,Bill didn't force DT to talk like that,nobody forces him to talk like that,he is a grown man who acts like a child or teenager,just because Bill Clinton has been a shitty husband in a line of presidents who have been unfaithful doesn't make his comments ok,women who worked on the Apprentice have said he compared their butt's to his daughters,that's not ok either,if he was truly sorry he would of said so,but all we got was a "if I offended" and no I was seriously wrong.


I don't care if he was a private citizen,like that makes it ok.He wasn't a private citizen when urging voters to check out a sex tape or bashing Rosie during a debate.
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It's the mentality that leads to the action of rape. The culture that breeds this anger and possession over women. It absolutely is.
So all the men who have used crude language have raped a woman? And speaking from fucking experience words are not the same as RAPE.
Why are you skipping from point A to get to point G?

Is sexually disrespectful comments about men & women part of rape culture? Yes.

Is condoning/condoning by default for not calling out such disrespectful comments because "boys will be boys" part of rape culture? Yes.

Are those comments as damaging as being physically raped? No.

Is every man who uses such language and have such thoughts a rapist? No. But all rapists benefit from and sometimes thrive off the silent acceptance of such mentality.


What Trump said is unacceptable. What Billy did was unacceptable. Just because rape culture attempts to make that behavior acceptable, doesn't mean it actually is.

There is no "boys will be boys" argument that will ever make such sexist commentary "okay" and it's time everyone stops letting themselves get brainwashed into thinking there is.
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Oct 7 2016, 10:14 PM
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Oct 7 2016, 09:52 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but this locker room mentality is what got Brock Turner 6 months in jail for rape. This is why it's so important to educate children particularly boys that this is not acceptable. So when people ask "is it as bad as rape?" You are god damn right it is!
Words are not as bad as rape. I don't give a fuck what a person SAYS it does not compare to the actual PHYSICAL RAPE of a person. That is disgusting.
I mean, you do have a point. The actual act of rape is disgusting. So are the things that were said.

If a person is going around saying the things that were said in that video, they're more than likely the type of person to rape someone else or make excuses for rape.

Doesn't Trump have at least 2 rape cases on his hands, plus a wife that has said he raped her.
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Oct 7 2016, 10:33 PM
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Not to beat a dead horse, but this locker room mentality is what got Brock Turner 6 months in jail for rape. This is why it's so important to educate children particularly boys that this is not acceptable. So when people ask "is it as bad as rape?" You are god damn right it is!
Words are not as bad as rape. I don't give a fuck what a person SAYS it does not compare to the actual PHYSICAL RAPE of a person. That is disgusting.
I mean, you do have a point. The actual act of rape is disgusting. So are the things that were said.

If a person is going around saying the things that were said in that video, they're more than likely the type of person to rape someone else or make excuses for rape.

Doesn't Trump have at least 2 rape cases on his hands, plus a wife that has said he raped her.
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/federal-judge-orders-hearing-in-donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-case/

Yep.
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I feel sick for Ari.
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We didn't know how good we had it with Romney and McCain...or Bush for that matter.
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laurondo
Oct 7 2016, 10:33 PM
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Oct 7 2016, 09:52 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but this locker room mentality is what got Brock Turner 6 months in jail for rape. This is why it's so important to educate children particularly boys that this is not acceptable. So when people ask "is it as bad as rape?" You are god damn right it is!
Words are not as bad as rape. I don't give a fuck what a person SAYS it does not compare to the actual PHYSICAL RAPE of a person. That is disgusting.
I mean, you do have a point. The actual act of rape is disgusting. So are the things that were said.

If a person is going around saying the things that were said in that video, they're more than likely the type of person to rape someone else or make excuses for rape.

Doesn't Trump have at least 2 rape cases on his hands, plus a wife that has said he raped her.
And a guy who repeatedly calls women pigs among a whole host of horrible names, not to mention coming across as both emotionally stunted and unstable.
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Oct 7 2016, 10:29 PM
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So all the men who have used crude language have raped a woman? And speaking from fucking experience words are not the same as RAPE.
Why are you skipping from point A to get to point G?

Is sexually disrespectful comments about men & women part of rape culture? Yes.

Is condoning/condoning by default for not calling out such disrespectful comments because "boys will be boys" part of rape culture? Yes.

Are those comments as damaging as being physically raped? No.

Is every man who uses such language and have such thoughts a rapist? No. But all rapists benefit from and sometimes thrive off the silent acceptance of such mentality.


What Trump said is unacceptable. What Billy did was unacceptable. Just because rape culture attempts to make that behavior acceptable, doesn't mean it actually is.

There is no "boys will be boys" argument that will ever make such sexist commentary "okay" and it's time everyone stops letting themselves get brainwashed into thinking there is.
ICAM. Words are generally not as bad as a physical assault but words can (particuarly when condoned) make it more likely that phsycial assaults will occur. Words can be extremely powerful in both good and bad ways particularly on the young and/or impressionable.

As DAYS viewers I think this has impacted many of us quite strongly as we feel close to AZ. It highlights how appalling Trump is and makes me think back on some of his other conduct/alleged conduct and the impact it has probably had on his other victims.
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So all the men who have used crude language have raped a woman? And speaking from fucking experience words are not the same as RAPE.
Why are you skipping from point A to get to point G?

Is sexually disrespectful comments about men & women part of rape culture? Yes.

Is condoning/condoning by default for not calling out such disrespectful comments because "boys will be boys" part of rape culture? Yes.

Are those comments as damaging as being physically raped? No.

Is every man who uses such language and have such thoughts a rapist? No. But all rapists benefit from and sometimes thrive off the silent acceptance of such mentality.


What Trump said is unacceptable. What Billy did was unacceptable. Just because rape culture attempts to make that behavior acceptable, doesn't mean it actually is.

There is no "boys will be boys" argument that will ever make such sexist commentary "okay" and it's time everyone stops letting themselves get brainwashed into thinking there is.
I never said what Trump said was right. But I know damn well that spoken words does not compare to rape. Reminds me of this group I read a while back that actually believed you can rape a woman without touching her. If that's also your belief then we are from different planets.
Edited by KweenBoda, Oct 7 2016, 10:42 PM.
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What Billy Bush did to AZ in manipulating AZ into hugging Donald Trump and Trump behavior in "returning the favor" by suggesting she hug Billy Bish while they essentially laughed at her makes me physically ill.
I don't know much about Billy Bush's history with woman but I have become somewhat familiar with Donald Trump's history.While these remarks by Donald Trump were made approximately ten years ago they are consistent with degrading remarks he has made about women since his campaign began such as those about Carly F,Megan k, and Alicia M.As has been stated in the past,when a person shows you who they are,believe them.
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KweenBoda, what conversation are you having right now? Because I swear if anyone makes a post, you reply with some bizarro post about something that was never said or implied.
Edited by Panda Panda, Oct 7 2016, 10:44 PM.
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Oct 7 2016, 10:40 PM
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Why are you skipping from point A to get to point G?

Is sexually disrespectful comments about men & women part of rape culture? Yes.

Is condoning/condoning by default for not calling out such disrespectful comments because "boys will be boys" part of rape culture? Yes.

Are those comments as damaging as being physically raped? No.

Is every man who uses such language and have such thoughts a rapist? No. But all rapists benefit from and sometimes thrive off the silent acceptance of such mentality.


What Trump said is unacceptable. What Billy did was unacceptable. Just because rape culture attempts to make that behavior acceptable, doesn't mean it actually is.

There is no "boys will be boys" argument that will ever make such sexist commentary "okay" and it's time everyone stops letting themselves get brainwashed into thinking there is.
I never said what Trump said was right. But I know damn well that spoken words does not compare to rape. Reminds me of this group I read a while back that actually believed you can rape a woman without touching her. If that's also your belief then we are from different planets.
Good Grief. You're completely missing her entire point.
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Remember Trump said two days ago he calls women "fat pigs,dogs,etc" for entertainment.
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Oct 7 2016, 07:13 PM
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No one said he can't say it but they are holding him accountable for saying it. There is a difference.
And he stood up and apologized for it. But that's not enough for some people. They want him tarred and feathered. Because after all its as bad as rape. SMH.
It's not as bad as rape, but it absolutely feeds into rape culture.
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CNN says Trump has a video statement that's ready to air soon.
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KweenBoda
Oct 7 2016, 10:40 PM
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Oct 7 2016, 10:29 PM
KweenBoda
Oct 7 2016, 10:18 PM

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Why are you skipping from point A to get to point G?

Is sexually disrespectful comments about men & women part of rape culture? Yes.

Is condoning/condoning by default for not calling out such disrespectful comments because "boys will be boys" part of rape culture? Yes.

Are those comments as damaging as being physically raped? No.

Is every man who uses such language and have such thoughts a rapist? No. But all rapists benefit from and sometimes thrive off the silent acceptance of such mentality.


What Trump said is unacceptable. What Billy did was unacceptable. Just because rape culture attempts to make that behavior acceptable, doesn't mean it actually is.

There is no "boys will be boys" argument that will ever make such sexist commentary "okay" and it's time everyone stops letting themselves get brainwashed into thinking there is.
I never said what Trump said was right. But I know damn well that spoken words does not compare to rape. Reminds me of this group I read a while back that actually believed you can rape a woman without touching her. If that's also your belief then we are from different planets.
No one is saying the spoken word compares to or is as bad as physical rape. We are saying it is part of the culture that, among other things, helps create sexual assault. (Although I know from my work that the spoken word in the wrong circumstances can cause very serious mental health issues.)
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We're literally all agreeing that rape & rape culture is bad yet still arguing about it? What???
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Oct 7 2016, 10:36 PM
We didn't know how good we had it with Romney and McCain...or Bush for that matter.
I wouldn't go there. McCain came with Sarah Palin, and Bush... let's not even go there. Romney was probably the more moderate but out-of-touch... so is he Republican Party. Crazier and crazier with each passing cycle. We shouldn't be surprised by any of this. When Ted Cruz isn't far enough to the Right for you, you know you have a problem. :eyeroll: His conspiracy theories were no match for Donald's I guess. Oh, well. Poor him. Even after Trump claimed that Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of JFK, that still didn't end up deterring him (Cruz) from campaigning for him (Trump) in the end. 2016 has truly been the insanest year I've ever witnessed.
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Oct 7 2016, 10:44 PM
CNN says Trump has a video statement that's ready to air soon.
"I was only 59 years old. I didn't know any better."
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