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Donald Trumps latest scandal involves Arianne Zucker and DOOL set
Topic Started: Oct 7 2016, 04:26 PM (50,216 Views)
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 05:35 PM
Hillary does not claim she's an advocate of women because she has a vagina. It's because she has:

advocated for the Family and Medical Leave Act

started the National Campaign to End Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy

advocated for better access to contraception

advocated for the Paycheck Fairness Act and the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

created maternity leave at her law firm in the 80's

etc.

IOW she has actually been an advocate for women. She has made real and significant widespread differences that impact many people. She is the one who coined "Women's rights are human rights." She is a flawed candidate, but she is also one with an actual record full of things she has actually done.

She also helped push through the U.N. resolution that set out guidelines for international response to victims of sexual assault in war-torn areas. This is not stuff that people are making up to spin her into a do-gooder. It's on the record, it actually happened.
I so enjoy facts.
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 07:00 PM
Also, Bill Clinton got impeached. This is weird territory for Trump to get into if he doesn't want to imply that he should get the same fate one day.
My dad has been saying all along that he can't see any way Trump would last even a year as president. He'll either get impeached, or quit after realizing he can't just do whatever he wants.

Unrelated to the post I replied to, I don't care if someone disagrees with me. I lived for many years with someone who was Republican, and I am not. We had some really great, perfectly civil conversations despite the fact that she felt differently than me about many economic issues, abortion, etc.

But having opposing views enters entirely different territory for me once the opposing views entail supporting a person who I feel is a direct danger to our country, and more specifically, to minority groups. I'm not prepared to watch my friends live in fear that their lives are about to fall apart while this schmuck railroads right over our constitution (and basic human decency, for that matter). He's an attention-seeking jerk, and the most dangerous thing about him, in my opinion, isn't that he's a racist or a sexist. It's that he doesn't give a flying fuck what I, or anybody else really thinks, as long as someone is whispering praise in his ear to feed his ego, putting money in his pocket to satisfy his expensive taste, and there's a giant sign flashing in gold lights somewhere that spells out T-R-U-M-P, to make him feel successful and important. That, as far as I'm concerned, is one of the most dangerous cocktails of motivation for a leader that I could possibly think of.
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lysie
Oct 8 2016, 03:37 PM
It's one thing to have political differences when it comes to the economy or state vs federal or whatever. This election is very different. I know people want it to be as simple as "we have a difference of opinion" but it's just not. There's much more on the line for many people this time, and it's no longer a situation where a simple agree to disagree even makes sense.
Cannot be said enough.





*I'm not even an American, but this election is bigger than all of you. Nuclear football, I'm lookin' at you and imagining those six seconds.
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Tammy
Oct 8 2016, 07:15 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 07:12 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 07:00 PM
Also, Bill Clinton got impeached. This is weird territory for Trump to get into if he doesn't want to imply that he should get the same fate one day.
He got impeached for lying under oath. Not his sexual misconduct.
I don't think lying under oath would be outside the realm of possibility for Trump lol. If Presiden't got impeached for sexual misconduct... well that would be a pretty long list I'm sure.
Right, yet people are now saying Trump is unfit LOL. Sorry, I can't wrap my head around some of the hypocrisy.

Of course it's possible Trump could lie under oath. Hillary lied under oath about her e-mails.

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Oct 8 2016, 06:58 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/trump-on-howard-stern/index.html

Donald Trump to Howard Stern: It's okay to call my daughter a 'piece of ass'


A series of audio clips on CNN: convos between Trump and Howard Stern. Saying disgusting things about women.
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Luce
Oct 8 2016, 07:26 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 07:00 PM
Also, Bill Clinton got impeached. This is weird territory for Trump to get into if he doesn't want to imply that he should get the same fate one day.
My dad has been saying all along that he can't see any way Trump would last even a year as president. He'll either get impeached, or quit after realizing he can't just do whatever he wants.
Every so often I think exactly what funone said earlier, that he never thought he'd get this far and doesn't really want to do the dreadfully restrictive, dreadfully unfun job that is being the president. He just is too proud to back down now that he's this far. Nothing he's saying is ever going to come true. There is no realistic way that there is going to be a wall along the southern border and even less of a possibility that Mexico is going to pay for it. The idea of safe zones in Syria makes me cry. Leaving NAFTA would cause trade retaliation and recession, regardless of whether or not we should have done it in the first place. He'll have very little to show after four years and very little of his outlandish promises will come to pass. He's not going to be a winner and that messes up his brand. No wonder he loves to say that everything that goes against him is part of a rigged system. That's the only way he can lose and still win.
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Do you all think Trump will step down?
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funone
Oct 8 2016, 07:44 PM
Do you all think Trump will step down?
He's too full of himself to step down because he's a "star."
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funone
Oct 8 2016, 07:44 PM
Do you all think Trump will step down?
He says no, so far. He's been quite defiant. If he did, then the RNC would have to choose someone else, either by another convention or a vote of members. Maybe Pensk, he made a good enough impression at the VP debate and is a very traditional conservative. He's also got Trump as baggage maybe, though, I dunno. Anyway, the process would take some time, and we have about 4 weeks left until election day so it would be a squeeze. Some states already have mailed out their absentee ballots so whoever replaced Trump wouldn't even appear on all the ballots.
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Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 06:30 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 06:26 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 06:22 PM

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I'm not talking about her. I'm not in here patting her on the back or endorsing her. You're the one who has no defense for the person we're discussing. My legs are firmly planted. You're the one pivoting.
I'm been pretty consistent that Hillary is a horrible human being. I've said several times Trumps words are wrong. I don't think he's worse than Hillary. I've repeated the same thing over and over. So try again.
LOL at "his words are wrong"... As though they have nothing to do with what kind of person he is.
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funone
Oct 8 2016, 07:44 PM
Do you all think Trump will step down?
Hell No!
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 07:50 PM
funone
Oct 8 2016, 07:44 PM
Do you all think Trump will step down?
He says no, so far. He's been quite defiant. If he did, then the RNC would have to choose someone else, either by another convention or a vote of members. Maybe Pensk, he made a good enough impression at the VP debate and is a very traditional conservative. He's also got Trump as baggage maybe, though, I dunno. Anyway, the process would take some time, and we have about 4 weeks left until election day so it would be a squeeze. Some states already have mailed out their absentee ballots so whoever replaced Trump wouldn't even appear on all the ballots.
I'm nervous it could be Pence, but it's not likely he would be elected anyway right? At least I hope not.
Edited by funone, Oct 8 2016, 07:53 PM.
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Oct 8 2016, 06:47 PM
Snowing Fan
Oct 8 2016, 06:12 PM
If we could have a different republican nominee,who would you pick?For me I will not vote for anyone who wants to ban gay marriage,so I cannot really pick anyone.
I'm a democratic, but if Colin Powell ran I'd vote for him in minute.
Oh my gosh. I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican, that guy will stab you in the back in a heartbeat.
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funone
Oct 8 2016, 07:44 PM
Do you all think Trump will step down?
Are you kidding? That man's ego won't let him.
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Oct 8 2016, 07:51 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 06:30 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 06:26 PM

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I'm been pretty consistent that Hillary is a horrible human being. I've said several times Trumps words are wrong. I don't think he's worse than Hillary. I've repeated the same thing over and over. So try again.
LOL at "his words are wrong"... As though they have nothing to do with what kind of person he is.
Sure and your candidate is so superior. :rolleyes:
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Oct 8 2016, 07:51 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 06:30 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 06:26 PM

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I'm been pretty consistent that Hillary is a horrible human being. I've said several times Trumps words are wrong. I don't think he's worse than Hillary. I've repeated the same thing over and over. So try again.
LOL at "his words are wrong"... As though they have nothing to do with what kind of person he is.
"His words are wrong"???? :blink: I can't with that one lol... I shall slowly back out of this thread now lol. :run:
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Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 07:55 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 07:51 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 06:30 PM

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LOL at "his words are wrong"... As though they have nothing to do with what kind of person he is.
Sure and your candidate is so superior. :rolleyes:
Deflect deflect. Divert divert.
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funone
Oct 8 2016, 07:53 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 07:50 PM
funone
Oct 8 2016, 07:44 PM
Do you all think Trump will step down?
He says no, so far. He's been quite defiant. If he did, then the RNC would have to choose someone else, either by another convention or a vote of members. Maybe Pensk, he made a good enough impression at the VP debate and is a very traditional conservative. He's also got Trump as baggage maybe, though, I dunno. Anyway, the process would take some time, and we have about 4 weeks left until election day so it would be a squeeze. Some states already have mailed out their absentee ballots so whoever replaced Trump wouldn't even appear on all the ballots.
I'm nervous it Gould be Pence, but it's not likely he would be elected anyway right? At least I hope not.
I mean, a lot of people liked Pensk on Tuesday night and wished he was running for president all along instead of Trump. But if he were to replace Trump now, Trump supporters might be really pissed off on election day. Same reason the RNC nominated Trump in the first place despite their misgivings about him as a candidate. Trump generated higher turnout than anyone else in the Republican primary, his passionate support base is a thriving part of the right wing, and even though many hate him, he won that primary by a landslide according to popular vote. I can't see the future, but I think the RNC feel like they're between a rock and a hard place with no good immediate answers. There's probably a reason why they're trying to focus so much on the senate now.
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lysie
Oct 8 2016, 07:58 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 07:55 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 07:51 PM

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Sure and your candidate is so superior. :rolleyes:
Deflect deflect. Divert divert.
Trump sucks. Hillary sucks more.

You can keep ignoring my point.
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Oct 8 2016, 07:55 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 06:30 PM

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LOL at "his words are wrong"... As though they have nothing to do with what kind of person he is.
"His words are wrong"???? :blink: I can't with that one lol... I shall slowly back out of this thread now lol. :run:
I have the laugh at the hypocrisy of Hillary supporters lecturing me on who I support. This election is so scary for part of the country because they are afraid of what she'll do. It isn't just Hillary supporters who are afraid their rights will be infringed upon.
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