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Donald Trumps latest scandal involves Arianne Zucker and DOOL set
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DesignatedShelley
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KweenBoda
Oct 8 2016, 08:52 PM
She attacked the women he raped therefore she is as culpable as he is. She stood by him through the rapes therefore she's as nasty as him and abetted him. I don't want that trash as my president. As for facts..they are everywhere. The head of the DNC who was let go for those emails was hired by guess who..Hillary herself. As for the 13 year old it has been thrown out a couple of times.
There is no way that she is as culpable as Bill for anything Bill did. By this "logic" anyone who supports Donald Trump is equally as culpable for what he does as he is. Do you want that on you? That's the point people were making to Restless84 earlier. I see you still don't respond to the charges of assault that were brought against Trump, ever so conveniently.

"they are everywhere" is a total copout. If you want to have a real discussion then bring some support for your claims. Debbie Wasserman Schulz was let go duly for her inappropriate behavior, but the DNC supporting the registered Democrat over the registered independent is not a crime. Which, if you would care to remain on topic, was what was being discussed.
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lysie
Oct 8 2016, 08:42 PM
Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 08:29 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 08:05 PM

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People want to know how I or anyone else can vote for Trump. I'm giving them my reason. I know I'm not a perfect person or poster, sue me. I admit my faults and when I am wrong. I don't know how I can fix myself to be better poster in your eyes, believe me I've tried different ways. I think you & the rest of the staff do a terrific job running this board and I try to respect everyone (being imperfect, I say things sometimes I shouldn't). Some of the insinuations that I've gotten that I'm some sort of bad person for my beliefs are hurtful, especially from people that I respect even though their views are different than mine (not a big deal to me).

In future elections, I will never talk about my feelings publicly again, especially on social media where I've gotten some shitty treatment from soap fans. My initial instinct was not to vote and to lay low on this election, but after some of the anti-police and anti-America stuff started, it pissed me off too much. I regret speaking my mind because being dumped on by people does not feel good.
You seem to be under the impression that you're not making these same insinuations.

And you could stop changing the subject. You have at the moment, but that was the problem being alluded to.

On a personal note, my other suggestion would be to actually read what people are saying and attempt to see where they're coming from. I'm sure you think you are, but your responses lead me to believe otherwise on certain subjects especially when it comes to some of the topics you're finding the most problematic. Outright rejection at the idea of implicit bias and at the idea that there is more at stake here for some people that simple political disagreements...whether it changes your vote or not, I would implore you to look at where people are coming from on these things. It's not as simple as liberal vs conservative, Hillary vs. Trump, or Republican vs. Democrat. There are very deep and real reasons people aren't willing to agree to disagree this election cycle and very few of those reasons have anything to do with actual politics.
I've read page after page of where people are coming from. I don't think anyone who disagrees with me here is a bad person, but I feel like people think I am. Personally I think there is a lot at stake for our police officers, military, and the unborn just to name a few issues.

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Tammy
Oct 8 2016, 08:53 PM
KweenBoda
Oct 8 2016, 08:47 PM
Tammy
Oct 8 2016, 08:45 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIwhite, your Christian masses yearning to breathe free.”
So your for open borders and no security check? And he has said he wanted stronger security measures.
Who said anything about not being for security checks? Trump outright said he wanted to ban Muslims from entering our country!
Nobody ever said anything about abolishing the 2nd amendment either, but some people are under the impression that it's going to happen any day.

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Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 09:09 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 08:42 PM
Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 08:29 PM

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You seem to be under the impression that you're not making these same insinuations.

And you could stop changing the subject. You have at the moment, but that was the problem being alluded to.

On a personal note, my other suggestion would be to actually read what people are saying and attempt to see where they're coming from. I'm sure you think you are, but your responses lead me to believe otherwise on certain subjects especially when it comes to some of the topics you're finding the most problematic. Outright rejection at the idea of implicit bias and at the idea that there is more at stake here for some people that simple political disagreements...whether it changes your vote or not, I would implore you to look at where people are coming from on these things. It's not as simple as liberal vs conservative, Hillary vs. Trump, or Republican vs. Democrat. There are very deep and real reasons people aren't willing to agree to disagree this election cycle and very few of those reasons have anything to do with actual politics.
I've read page after page of where people are coming from. I don't think anyone who disagrees with me here is a bad person, but I feel like people think I am. Personally I think there is a lot at stake for our police officers, military, and the unborn just to name a few issues.

I don't think you are a bad person. I just don't agree with you politically.
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Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 09:09 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 08:42 PM
Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 08:29 PM

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You seem to be under the impression that you're not making these same insinuations.

And you could stop changing the subject. You have at the moment, but that was the problem being alluded to.

On a personal note, my other suggestion would be to actually read what people are saying and attempt to see where they're coming from. I'm sure you think you are, but your responses lead me to believe otherwise on certain subjects especially when it comes to some of the topics you're finding the most problematic. Outright rejection at the idea of implicit bias and at the idea that there is more at stake here for some people that simple political disagreements...whether it changes your vote or not, I would implore you to look at where people are coming from on these things. It's not as simple as liberal vs conservative, Hillary vs. Trump, or Republican vs. Democrat. There are very deep and real reasons people aren't willing to agree to disagree this election cycle and very few of those reasons have anything to do with actual politics.
I've read page after page of where people are coming from. I don't think anyone who disagrees with me here is a bad person, but I feel like people think I am. Personally I think there is a lot at stake for our police officers, military, and the unborn just to name a few issues.

I didn't mean people here.
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Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 09:09 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 08:42 PM
Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 08:29 PM

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You seem to be under the impression that you're not making these same insinuations.

And you could stop changing the subject. You have at the moment, but that was the problem being alluded to.

On a personal note, my other suggestion would be to actually read what people are saying and attempt to see where they're coming from. I'm sure you think you are, but your responses lead me to believe otherwise on certain subjects especially when it comes to some of the topics you're finding the most problematic. Outright rejection at the idea of implicit bias and at the idea that there is more at stake here for some people that simple political disagreements...whether it changes your vote or not, I would implore you to look at where people are coming from on these things. It's not as simple as liberal vs conservative, Hillary vs. Trump, or Republican vs. Democrat. There are very deep and real reasons people aren't willing to agree to disagree this election cycle and very few of those reasons have anything to do with actual politics.
I've read page after page of where people are coming from. I don't think anyone who disagrees with me here is a bad person, but I feel like people think I am. Personally I think there is a lot at stake for our police officers, military, and the unborn just to name a few issues.

I also don't think you're a bad person. We've had nothing but civil conversations this entire time, lol. I just strongly disagree with your politics is all.
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funone
Oct 8 2016, 09:11 PM
Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 09:09 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 08:42 PM

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I've read page after page of where people are coming from. I don't think anyone who disagrees with me here is a bad person, but I feel like people think I am. Personally I think there is a lot at stake for our police officers, military, and the unborn just to name a few issues.

I don't think you are a bad person. I just don't agree with you politically.
Restless I don't think you're a bad person either, and I don't think most Trump supporters are. But I think he is a pretty bad person, and I think he has brought out bad parts of other people around him too.
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 09:10 PM
Tammy
Oct 8 2016, 08:53 PM
KweenBoda
Oct 8 2016, 08:47 PM

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Who said anything about not being for security checks? Trump outright said he wanted to ban Muslims from entering our country!
Nobody ever said anything about abolishing the 2nd amendment either, but some people are under the impression that it's going to happen any day.

I never got that argument either lol. How do stricter gun laws equate with taking away everyone's guns? Just because some people don't want everyone being able to buy assault rifles doesn't mean they don't want you to own a pistol.
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funone
Oct 7 2016, 08:56 PM
I hate to say it, but will this actually sway votes given all the outlandish shit Trump has said thus far??
Unfortunately, this could actually help with his die-hards..... :shame:
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ICan'tWithTrump
Oct 8 2016, 09:18 PM
funone
Oct 7 2016, 08:56 PM
I hate to say it, but will this actually sway votes given all the outlandish shit Trump has said thus far??
Unfortunately, this could actually help with his die-hards..... :shame:
Yes, but that's a small group in comparison to the independent voters on the fence currently.
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Tammy
Oct 8 2016, 09:17 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 09:10 PM
Tammy
Oct 8 2016, 08:53 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIwhite, your Christian
Nobody ever said anything about abolishing the 2nd amendment either, but some people are under the impression that it's going to happen any day.

I never got that argument either lol. How do stricter gun laws equate with taking away everyone's guns? Just because some people don't want everyone being able to buy assault rifles doesn't mean they don't want you to own a pistol.
Because we already have enough laws. And to make more only effects the law abiding gun owner. And Hillary has said that it would be a great thing to try here..Australian gun laws. Which means citizens are banned from owning any. Sorry I can't bring that video over here as I'm on my kindle and not my lap top. (Not to tech savvy lol)
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KweenBoda
Oct 8 2016, 09:22 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 09:17 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 09:10 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIwhite, your Christian
I never got that argument either lol. How do stricter gun laws equate with taking away everyone's guns? Just because some people don't want everyone being able to buy assault rifles doesn't mean they don't want you to own a pistol.
Because we already have enough laws. And to make more only effects the law abiding gun owner. And Hillary has said that it would be a great thing to try here..Australian gun laws. Which means citizens are banned from owning any. Sorry I can't bring that video over here as I'm on my kindle and not my lap top. (Not to tech savvy lol)
What's a little inconvenience for the "law abiding gun owner" if it means guns won't get in to the wrong hands?
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Citizens are not banned from owning guns in Australia, WTF?
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laurondo
Oct 8 2016, 09:14 PM
Restless84
Oct 8 2016, 09:09 PM
lysie
Oct 8 2016, 08:42 PM

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I've read page after page of where people are coming from. I don't think anyone who disagrees with me here is a bad person, but I feel like people think I am. Personally I think there is a lot at stake for our police officers, military, and the unborn just to name a few issues.

I also don't think you're a bad person. We've had nothing but civil conversations this entire time, lol. I just strongly disagree with your politics is all.
I definitely didn't mean you. It's my fault because I'm mixing up some of the stuff directed at me on Twitter with the responses here and reacting defensively.
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funone
Oct 8 2016, 09:24 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 09:22 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 09:17 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIwhite, your Christian
Because we already have enough laws. And to make more only effects the law abiding gun owner. And Hillary has said that it would be a great thing to try here..Australian gun laws. Which means citizens are banned from owning any. Sorry I can't bring that video over here as I'm on my kindle and not my lap top. (Not to tech savvy lol)
What's a little inconvenience for the "law abiding gun owner" if it means guns won't get in to the wrong hands?
Just curious. How often do bad guys go through background checks?
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 09:25 PM
Citizens are not banned from owning guns in Australia, WTF?
Oh sorry! Just heard from a lot of people who live there say they are.
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 09:25 PM
Citizens are not banned from owning guns in Australia, WTF?
Nothing about that was accurate. I just...
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 09:09 PM
KweenBoda
Oct 8 2016, 08:52 PM
She attacked the women he raped therefore she is as culpable as he is. She stood by him through the rapes therefore she's as nasty as him and abetted him. I don't want that trash as my president. As for facts..they are everywhere. The head of the DNC who was let go for those emails was hired by guess who..Hillary herself. As for the 13 year old it has been thrown out a couple of times.
There is no way that she is as culpable as Bill for anything Bill did. By this "logic" anyone who supports Donald Trump is equally as culpable for what he does as he is. Do you want that on you? That's the point people were making to Restless84 earlier. I see you still don't respond to the charges of assault that were brought against Trump, ever so conveniently.

"they are everywhere" is a total copout. If you want to have a real discussion then bring some support for your claims. Debbie Wasserman Schulz was let go duly for her inappropriate behavior, but the DNC supporting the registered Democrat over the registered independent is not a crime. Which, if you would care to remain on topic, was what was being discussed.
And Schulz wasn't hired,she didn't get paid,her position was just to tell people vote Hillary and that's it,it's been done before,it a way of phasing a person out.
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Actual reality about gun laws in Australia, for the curious. It is pro-regulation so not unbiased, but the regulations are spelled out clearly in easy to understand terms.
Edited by DesignatedShelley, Oct 8 2016, 09:30 PM.
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KweenBoda
Oct 8 2016, 09:22 PM
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Oct 8 2016, 09:17 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 8 2016, 09:10 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIwhite, your Christian
I never got that argument either lol. How do stricter gun laws equate with taking away everyone's guns? Just because some people don't want everyone being able to buy assault rifles doesn't mean they don't want you to own a pistol.
Because we already have enough laws. And to make more only effects the law abiding gun owner. And Hillary has said that it would be a great thing to try here..Australian gun laws. Which means citizens are banned from owning any. Sorry I can't bring that video over here as I'm on my kindle and not my lap top. (Not to tech savvy lol)
Okay then... why does a law abiding gun owner need an assault rifle? I mean honestly how do we have enough gun laws... when any Tom, Dick Or Harry can buy an assault weapon and shoot up a school, or a mall, or a nightclub?

I honestly doubt that ANYONE would get away with abolishing the 2nd amendment... I don't care WHO they are lol.

And I have gotten way off-topic of this thread so feel free not to respond lol. :P
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