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Donald Trumps latest scandal involves Arianne Zucker and DOOL set
Topic Started: Oct 7 2016, 04:26 PM (50,197 Views)
nananana7
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Regarding replacing Trump as the Republican nominee ...

As has already been stated, some states have already sent out absentee ballots and some states do *only* vote-by-mail. And in a few of those states, voting has already begun. So they really can't change the ballots.

Furthermore, ballots are already printed for everyone else. There isn't enough time to meet, select a new candidate, and then reprint the ballots and distribute them to the voting booths before the election.

However, the party could ask the Electoral College to select another person in January when the Electoral College meets. This is unlikely; but technically it could happen, provided a whole bunch of other conditions are met.

How the Electoral College works (This was posted right before the most recent scandal, so it doesn't mention replacing a candidate)
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-amar-electoral-college-explainer-20161007-snap-story.html

Here are possibilities based on the current situation, of how Trump could be replaced:
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/heres-what-happens-if-donald-trump-drops-out-of-presidential-race/

Edit to add: Another link about how Trump could be replaced.
This is more detailed, and explains precedents.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/us/politics/gop-trump.html
Edited by nananana7, Oct 9 2016, 03:50 PM.
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Bigboy
Oct 9 2016, 03:31 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:28 PM
Bigboy
Oct 9 2016, 03:19 PM
Is there anyway Trump can still this election or is finished after those comments he about women?

I am a outsider that is watching this with a lot of interest say he has a good debate tonight you think that win back some of the voters or won't matter as the damage as already being done by what he said.
After the debate tonight barring any serious gaffes by either candidate
His supporters will still vote for him
Her supporters will still vote for her

I know you are from another country but
do know that it doesn't matter who wins the popular vote
It is the electoral college count that matters?
But nothing is decided tonight right we will find out on 08 Nov who wins?

Actually some states have already started early voting.
I can vote starting in 2 weeks where I live but
yes nothing will be official till election night
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trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:41 PM
concerned
Oct 9 2016, 03:25 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 02:27 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
How sad is it for your country that of a population of however many millions the ones who manage to make it to the top of the leadership scrabble pile are someone objectionable or married to someone who is objectionable.

It is sad & frustrating but I can understand why people wouldn't want to put themselves & their families through
the political process after.
Look at Sen.Cruz & how his wife & his father were attacked by Trump
Michelle Obama was criticized by some for her looks & ridiculed for her interest in
promoting healthy eating.
I still don't get the hate Michelle gets for making school lunches healthier,that's a GOOD thing,wish my school lunches had been better,mine were gross.
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lysie
Oct 9 2016, 03:42 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 03:41 PM
Inara Serra
Oct 9 2016, 03:37 PM
I don't need a link to read about Benghazi. I followed it the day it happened and read about it afterwards. I know what I'm talking about. Just because I'm a Republican doesn't mean I'm dumb. I'm not going to see things your way.
That's not a link about Benghazi.
I'm on my phone and can't read like I would on a laptop. I assumed it was because of my post. I don't know why I didn't just quit this thread yesterday like I said I would. It's pointless.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 03:47 PM
lysie
Oct 9 2016, 03:42 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 03:41 PM
That's not a link about Benghazi.
I'm on my phone and can't read like I would on a laptop. I assumed it was because of my post. I don't know why I didn't just quit this thread yesterday like I said I would. It's pointless.
I'm finding it quite educational.
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Snowing Fan
Oct 9 2016, 03:44 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:41 PM
concerned
Oct 9 2016, 03:25 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
It is sad & frustrating but I can understand why people wouldn't want to put themselves & their families through
the political process after.
Look at Sen.Cruz & how his wife & his father were attacked by Trump
Michelle Obama was criticized by some for her looks & ridiculed for her interest in
promoting healthy eating.
I still don't get the hate Michelle gets for making school lunches healthier,that's a GOOD thing,wish my school lunches had been better,mine were gross.
I don't get it either but some people just have to
find a reason to criticize everything Obama does.
I don't think everyone is wrong all the time nor
Is someone right all the time .
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Bigboy
Oct 9 2016, 03:31 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:28 PM
Bigboy
Oct 9 2016, 03:19 PM
Is there anyway Trump can still this election or is finished after those comments he about women?

I am a outsider that is watching this with a lot of interest say he has a good debate tonight you think that win back some of the voters or won't matter as the damage as already being done by what he said.
After the debate tonight barring any serious gaffes by either candidate
His supporters will still vote for him
Her supporters will still vote for her

I know you are from another country but
do know that it doesn't matter who wins the popular vote
It is the electoral college count that matters?
But nothing is decided tonight right we will find out on 08 Nov who wins?

Right, but we're so close to the elections that I doubt a lot of people are going to change their minds on who to vote for at this point.
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What a pity Ari doesn't have any decent material this year - the sympathy vote may have been enough to finally get her an Emmy.


Maybe I'll cross my fingers and hope there's some good stuff coming up when she meets Xander.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 02:26 PM
Drew
Oct 9 2016, 02:22 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 02:09 PM

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LOL.

"Big Union" ... how DARE workers be treated like people instead of wage slaves. Then again this comes from the country that doesn't believe in Parental Leave, Unemployment Insurance or Sick Pay.

"Cutting military spending" .... because blocking the funding of medical and psychiatric care for veterans when they return home is so noble of the GOP. But typical I guess of Trump and his supporters "they just couldn't handle it"
How dare people have the right not to be part of a union. Hillary doesn't believe in "right to work."

I live in a military country and the overwhelming majority of them are not supporting Hillary because they know she and the democratic party won't do anything good for them. But you probably just think they're stupid. :rolleyes:
Right to Work states' workers have lower wages and fewer benefits than workers in other states. It is illegal under federal law to force anyone to join a union or to pay for a union's political work even in so-called "union" states. Workers can be compelled to contribute to funds used for collective bargaining and to prosecute employers that mistreat their workers on behalf of that wronged employee.

The current Democratic president has consistently asked for more military spending than Congress will approve. The sequestration agreement that Republican members of Congress pushed for in 2011 limits the amount of money that can be used for the military. The Pentagon has asked to close excess military bases to use the money elsewhere, but members of Congress have resisted. Many military families may not agree with what the Pentagon thinks or may not know the truth behind the numbers. We've heard nothing but what a terrible state our military is in for the past year. President Obama and Secretary Clinton have made it clear they don't believe that. I don't believe it either. I have too much respect for our military members and their families for all their hard work and sacrifices to say that.

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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 03:41 PM
Inara Serra
Oct 9 2016, 03:37 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 03:15 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_U.S._diplomatic_facilities

I don't need a link to read about Benghazi. I followed it the day it happened and read about it afterwards. I know what I'm talking about. Just because I'm a Republican doesn't mean I'm dumb. I'm not going to see things your way.
The link includes ALL the attacks on US diplomatic facilities, including the attack on 18 April 1983 in Beirut, Lebanon where an Islamic Jihad car bomb destroyed the Embassy (63 dead) which occurred under President Reagan.

I don't know know why you insist that sharing links that provide evidence to the contrary is a personal attack. I have posted nothing that could possibly be construed as trying to persuade you to "see things" my way. Since I've gone to great lengths to keep my postings factual, you have no knowledge of what I believe or how I see things and I have not required you to defend your choices or beliefs.

For those interested, here's a link to the 636 entries in the Congressional Record relating to Benghazi:

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%22congrecord%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22Benghazi%22%7D
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Inara Serra
Oct 9 2016, 03:59 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 03:41 PM
Inara Serra
Oct 9 2016, 03:37 PM
I don't need a link to read about Benghazi. I followed it the day it happened and read about it afterwards. I know what I'm talking about. Just because I'm a Republican doesn't mean I'm dumb. I'm not going to see things your way.
The link includes ALL the attacks on US diplomatic facilities, including the attack on 18 April 1983 in Beirut, Lebanon where an Islamic Jihad car bomb destroyed the Embassy (63 dead) which occurred under President Reagan.

I don't know know why you insist that sharing links that provide evidence to the contrary is a personal attack. I have posted nothing that could possibly be construed as trying to persuade you to "see things" my way. Since I've gone to great lengths to keep my postings factual, you have no knowledge of what I believe or how I see things and I have not required you to defend your choices or beliefs.

For those interested, here's a link to the 636 entries in the Congressional Record relating to Benghazi:

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%22congrecord%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22Benghazi%22%7D
I explained my error. I apologize for biting your head off. It's hard not to get to defensive when it's 100 to 1 here and I'm constantly being told I'm wrong.
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Inara Serra
Oct 9 2016, 03:37 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 03:15 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:03 PM

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Hillary isn't any better. Benghazi happened on her watch.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_U.S._diplomatic_facilities

As you pointed out with that list, if you blame Clinton for Benghazi, you would have to blame every Secretary of State for the past 30 years for embassy or consulate attacks that happened during their terms. And Bush for 9/11. If we had unlimited resources and future-telling ability and still ignored the situations, then yes blame them. But otherwise, I believe all of these people have done everything they could to protect lives.
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trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:50 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 03:44 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:41 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
I still don't get the hate Michelle gets for making school lunches healthier,that's a GOOD thing,wish my school lunches had been better,mine were gross.
I don't get it either but some people just have to
find a reason to criticize everything Obama does.
I don't think everyone is wrong all the time nor
Is someone right all the time .
I don't have stats or articles to quote, but judging by the teachers I know, I think it's because there's a general understanding (or at least an opinion) among school staff, that the kids themselves hated the new food and some would not eat it at all.

I found that disappointing. She's trying to combat a real problem, and has put it a lot of admirable effort to what I consider a very good cause. I just think it still needs more work. I get discouraged by the tendency to tag something as a failure or not worth the effort if it doesn't function completely perfectly the first time.
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Oct 9 2016, 04:10 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:50 PM
Snowing Fan
Oct 9 2016, 03:44 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
I don't get it either but some people just have to
find a reason to criticize everything Obama does.
I don't think everyone is wrong all the time nor
Is someone right all the time .
I don't have stats or articles to quote, but judging by the teachers I know, I think it's because there's a general understanding (or at least an opinion) among school staff, that the kids themselves hated the new food and some would not eat it at all.

I found that disappointing. She's trying to combat a real problem, and has put it a lot of admirable effort to what I consider a very good cause. I just think it still needs more work. I get discouraged by the tendency to tag something as a failure or not worth the effort if it doesn't function completely perfectly the first time.
That's my understanding too, which seems like a fixable problem. However, I don't remember kids loving school food when I was in school either. I sure didn't. So I don't really get why that's such a big deal now. But I agree with what you're saying in general. For some reason, especially with this administration, the consensus seems to have been if something doesn't work, END IT RIGHT NOW. That's just not how these things are supposed to work. You have to try things and make changes. They're not going to get everything perfect for everyone on the first try. At no point in history for any administration has that been true.
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I think Hillary was dumb to not disclose her emails and to use that private server in the first place. She was rightly rebuked for her bad judgment.

But I don't understand thinking that Hillary in any way wanted those people to die any more than George W Bush wanted anyone to die on 9/11. And I hated the Bush years but there was never any reason to think he wanted anyone to die. It happened during someone's watch, yes, and maybe there was even negligence. But I don't see how Hillary Clinton's negligence was worse than any wartime decision maker's negligence in the history of ever, which is how it seems this gets regarded. She was found innocent of criminal activity multiple times. The person who was in charge of the investigation at the FBI is a Republican and he said that he did not want the findings of the investigation politicized as they inevitably would be.

There were conspiracy theorist nuts who thought GWB was responsible for 9/11, but they never managed to investigate him multiple times for it.
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Oct 9 2016, 04:10 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:50 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 03:44 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
I don't get it either but some people just have to
find a reason to criticize everything Obama does.
I don't think everyone is wrong all the time nor
Is someone right all the time .
I don't have stats or articles to quote, but judging by the teachers I know, I think it's because there's a general understanding (or at least an opinion) among school staff, that the kids themselves hated the new food and some would not eat it at all.

I found that disappointing. She's trying to combat a real problem, and has put it a lot of admirable effort to what I consider a very good cause. I just think it still needs more work. I get discouraged by the tendency to tag something as a failure or not worth the effort if it doesn't function completely perfectly the first time.
the kids themselves hated the new food and some would not eat it at all.

That's my kids every time I try to introduce them to something new / and healthy.
Seems like a good indicator that the kids needed the program.

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Oct 9 2016, 04:10 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:50 PM
Snowing Fan
Oct 9 2016, 03:44 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
I don't get it either but some people just have to
find a reason to criticize everything Obama does.
I don't think everyone is wrong all the time nor
Is someone right all the time .
I don't have stats or articles to quote, but judging by the teachers I know, I think it's because there's a general understanding (or at least an opinion) among school staff, that the kids themselves hated the new food and some would not eat it at all.

I found that disappointing. She's trying to combat a real problem, and has put it a lot of admirable effort to what I consider a very good cause. I just think it still needs more work. I get discouraged by the tendency to tag something as a failure or not worth the effort if it doesn't function completely perfectly the first time.
It is sad because obesity, the lack of healthy eating habits & the lack of exercise
will have repercussions for our youth going forward.

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lysie
Oct 9 2016, 04:13 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 04:10 PM
trojangal
Oct 9 2016, 03:50 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
I don't have stats or articles to quote, but judging by the teachers I know, I think it's because there's a general understanding (or at least an opinion) among school staff, that the kids themselves hated the new food and some would not eat it at all.

I found that disappointing. She's trying to combat a real problem, and has put it a lot of admirable effort to what I consider a very good cause. I just think it still needs more work. I get discouraged by the tendency to tag something as a failure or not worth the effort if it doesn't function completely perfectly the first time.
That's my understanding too, which seems like a fixable problem. However, I don't remember kids loving school food when I was in school either. I sure didn't. So I don't really get why that's such a big deal now. But I agree with what you're saying in general. For some reason, especially with this administration, the consensus seems to have been if something doesn't work, END IT RIGHT NOW. That's just not how these things are supposed to work. You have to try things and make changes. They're not going to get everything perfect for everyone on the first try. At no point in history for any administration has that been true.
That was same attitude after the Bush administration. Obama ran as the anti-Bush candidate. It doesn't seem odd to me, but rather the norm nowadays.
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Oct 9 2016, 04:18 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
That's my understanding too, which seems like a fixable problem. However, I don't remember kids loving school food when I was in school either. I sure didn't. So I don't really get why that's such a big deal now. But I agree with what you're saying in general. For some reason, especially with this administration, the consensus seems to have been if something doesn't work, END IT RIGHT NOW. That's just not how these things are supposed to work. You have to try things and make changes. They're not going to get everything perfect for everyone on the first try. At no point in history for any administration has that been true.
That was same attitude after the Bush administration. Obama ran as the anti-Bush candidate. It doesn't seem odd to me, but rather the norm nowadays.
But this has been the attitude DURING the entire Obama administration. After the administration is one thing (though also annoying), but during is just ridiculous.
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lysie
Oct 9 2016, 04:13 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 03:50 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htmWhat happened to believing in the victim?
I don't have stats or articles to quote, but judging by the teachers I know, I think it's because there's a general understanding (or at least an opinion) among school staff, that the kids themselves hated the new food and some would not eat it at all.

I found that disappointing. She's trying to combat a real problem, and has put it a lot of admirable effort to what I consider a very good cause. I just think it still needs more work. I get discouraged by the tendency to tag something as a failure or not worth the effort if it doesn't function completely perfectly the first time.
That's my understanding too, which seems like a fixable problem. However, I don't remember kids loving school food when I was in school either. I sure didn't. So I don't really get why that's such a big deal now. But I agree with what you're saying in general. For some reason, especially with this administration, the consensus seems to have been if something doesn't work, END IT RIGHT NOW. That's just not how these things are supposed to work. You have to try things and make changes. They're not going to get everything perfect for everyone on the first try. At no point in history for any administration has that been true.
I didn't love it either, and even if I didn't want everything that was served on a particular day, most of the time I could at least get some sort of bread, noodles, pizza, or white potato (empty carbs that are palatable to most kids). But I think most of that is probably off limits now though because that's exactly what causes the obesity.
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