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Donald Trumps latest scandal involves Arianne Zucker and DOOL set
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DesignatedShelley
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If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
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Oct 9 2016, 05:34 PM
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Other than Ari and the late John Ingle, only Billy Warlock and the U/5 actress playing the secretary had scenes with him. If you happen to see this, Access Hollywood, you can stop wasting time trying to cold call all the Days cast. Just call Billy Warlock or find out who played the secretary. Those are your only options!
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:09 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:04 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 05:57 PM
I'm not sure what that means. Comey has only been FBI Director for a couple of years. Do you think people "change" that quickly? He was in Washington when he was at DOJ under Bush. How about all the other people at the FBI and DOJ who worked on the case? Are they part of a conspiracy? FBI employees are generally conservative, by the way.
I'm not saying there is some sort of conspiracy. People change their loyalty's and views all the time. I don't know at all whether Comey had ulterior motives. I do know I think Hillary skated and I also find her very dumb for the whole e-mail mess. When I was hired for a government job, computer and e-mail policy was very clear. Don't mix work with your personal e-mail accounts. Only work on the secure government computers.
Yes, but you must know that the higher-level employees don't have that hammered into them the way other employees do. It's not fair but that's the way it is. I have concerns about Hillary Clinton but her not being prosecuted isn't one of them.
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Billy Bush's on-air apology, first announced for tomorrow's "Today" is now off. He won't be on "Today" tomorrow at all.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/billy-bush-today-donald-trump-nbc-news-1201883317/
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Jason47
Oct 9 2016, 06:13 PM
Billy Bush's on-air apology, first announced for tomorrow's "Today" is now off. He won't be on "Today" tomorrow at all.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/billy-bush-today-donald-trump-nbc-news-1201883317/
What a great sentence.
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lysie
Oct 9 2016, 06:14 PM
Jason47
Oct 9 2016, 06:13 PM
Billy Bush's on-air apology, first announced for tomorrow's "Today" is now off. He won't be on "Today" tomorrow at all.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/billy-bush-today-donald-trump-nbc-news-1201883317/
What a great sentence.
Thanks! :)

I had fun with that one.
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:10 PM
If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
Sigh. Academia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:10 PM
If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
When certain media outlets are outed in leaked emails..it's no conspiracy. It's fact.
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Jason47
Oct 9 2016, 06:13 PM
Billy Bush's on-air apology, first announced for tomorrow's "Today" is now off. He won't be on "Today" tomorrow at all.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/billy-bush-today-donald-trump-nbc-news-1201883317/
Will they fire him?
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funone
Oct 9 2016, 06:18 PM
Jason47
Oct 9 2016, 06:13 PM
Billy Bush's on-air apology, first announced for tomorrow's "Today" is now off. He won't be on "Today" tomorrow at all.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/billy-bush-today-donald-trump-nbc-news-1201883317/
Will they fire him?
As of now, he's being kept off Monday's episode. That's all that's been announced for now.


The situation remained in flux as early as Sunday morning, a source told Variety, which first reported the news that NBC was mulling keeping Bush off the show. One of the scenarios being considered was that Al Roker and Tamron Hall would host Monday’s broadcast of the 9 a.m. hour of “Today,” while Bush would be sidelined. Roker was supposed to have taken the day off to deal with a surgical procedure, but is preparing to appear on air, this person said. The ultimate direction is being handed down by executives above Noah Oppenheim, the senior vice president and executive in charge of “Today.”

NBC’s handling of Bush on “Today” is complicated by the fact that the network is on the defensive for taking several days to release the damaging “Access Hollywood” material about Trump, allowing the Washington Post to beat NBC at its own story. Observers have noted that NBC faced legal questions regarding the “Access Hollywood” recording that the Post did not. “NBC News did exactly what you would expect from a great news organization,” a spokesman said. “As soon as we saw the tape and made the assessment it was undoubtedly newsworthy, we moved quickly and deliberately to get it published and to do so in the most responsible way.”

The mood at “Today” is “anxious,” according to the person familiar with the matter, particularly among female staffers, who view the revelations about Bush’s involvement with the incident to be of great professional concern. The show’s audience is strongly female, and after a newsy 7 a.m. hour, “Today” tackles more feature-oriented material, including cooking demonstrations and celebrity interviews
Edited by Jason47, Oct 9 2016, 06:20 PM.
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

All media is inherently biased. The important thing is to know which way the bias leans and to read articles from sources outside your ideological bubble. If the article cannot provide solid evidence to support the findings, then it is not an investigative piece based on fact and instead falls into the category of pure conjecture/opinion. It is also helpful to know who is funding your news source.

My daily reading often consists of both liberal and conservative newspapers from the US, UK, France, Europe, and Australia. I also follow up and check facts for myself. The only way to form a knowledgeable opinion is to do the research, read credible news sources instead of relying on opinion-based websites with a mission to push an ideological viewpoint (whether conservative or liberal), and then form an opinion for one's self.

Too many conservatives and liberals are eager to take the shortcut of accepting an opinion that appeals to their own worldview. The problem with the short-sightedness of that is the inability to see the larger picture.

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I'm curious.
Are there any news outlets that both liberals and conservatives can agree are neutral?
I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm genuinely curious.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:10 PM
If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
Sigh. Academia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?

I know there are more liberal professors in universities. I know that college education correlates positively with liberal views. That does not make everything that comes out of a university study, for example, a product of an agenda and therefore untrustworthy. That is basically saying no liberal can ever say anything trustworthy, which is a disingenuous way to always be in the right. We all have some bias or other, so nothing anyone says can be trusted? Society cannot operate without trust. This is a downward spiral that will go nowhere.

As for implicit bias, as I said earlier, implicit bias is widespread in human populations regardless of race and career field, gender, sexuality, political affiliation, religion, whatnot. But that doesn't mean that I think that every police officer lies about every black man ever.

KweenBoda
Oct 9 2016, 06:17 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:10 PM
If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
When certain media outlets are outed in leaked emails..it's no conspiracy. It's fact.
You didn't prove anything. Certain media outlets are leaked, therefore, there is a liberal agenda? That is not logic. It is also a broadbrush that allows you to dismiss everything out of hand when it is not necessarily appropriate. Again, convenient, but not how logic actually works.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:10 PM
If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
Sigh. Academia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
Maybe that is not a result of bias but of something else ...
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Jason47
Oct 9 2016, 06:20 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:18 PM
Jason47
Oct 9 2016, 06:13 PM
Billy Bush's on-air apology, first announced for tomorrow's "Today" is now off. He won't be on "Today" tomorrow at all.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/billy-bush-today-donald-trump-nbc-news-1201883317/
Will they fire him?
As of now, he's being kept off Monday's episode. That's all that's been announced for now.


The situation remained in flux as early as Sunday morning, a source told Variety, which first reported the news that NBC was mulling keeping Bush off the show. One of the scenarios being considered was that Al Roker and Tamron Hall would host Monday’s broadcast of the 9 a.m. hour of “Today,” while Bush would be sidelined. Roker was supposed to have taken the day off to deal with a surgical procedure, but is preparing to appear on air, this person said. The ultimate direction is being handed down by executives above Noah Oppenheim, the senior vice president and executive in charge of “Today.”

NBC’s handling of Bush on “Today” is complicated by the fact that the network is on the defensive for taking several days to release the damaging “Access Hollywood” material about Trump, allowing the Washington Post to beat NBC at its own story. Observers have noted that NBC faced legal questions regarding the “Access Hollywood” recording that the Post did not. “NBC News did exactly what you would expect from a great news organization,” a spokesman said. “As soon as we saw the tape and made the assessment it was undoubtedly newsworthy, we moved quickly and deliberately to get it published and to do so in the most responsible way.”

The mood at “Today” is “anxious,” according to the person familiar with the matter, particularly among female staffers, who view the revelations about Bush’s involvement with the incident to be of great professional concern. The show’s audience is strongly female, and after a newsy 7 a.m. hour, “Today” tackles more feature-oriented material, including cooking demonstrations and celebrity interviews
I think they will fire him.
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Or it least demote him. Look at Brian Williams.
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Oct 9 2016, 06:25 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:20 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:18 PM
As of now, he's being kept off Monday's episode. That's all that's been announced for now.


The situation remained in flux as early as Sunday morning, a source told Variety, which first reported the news that NBC was mulling keeping Bush off the show. One of the scenarios being considered was that Al Roker and Tamron Hall would host Monday’s broadcast of the 9 a.m. hour of “Today,” while Bush would be sidelined. Roker was supposed to have taken the day off to deal with a surgical procedure, but is preparing to appear on air, this person said. The ultimate direction is being handed down by executives above Noah Oppenheim, the senior vice president and executive in charge of “Today.”

NBC’s handling of Bush on “Today” is complicated by the fact that the network is on the defensive for taking several days to release the damaging “Access Hollywood” material about Trump, allowing the Washington Post to beat NBC at its own story. Observers have noted that NBC faced legal questions regarding the “Access Hollywood” recording that the Post did not. “NBC News did exactly what you would expect from a great news organization,” a spokesman said. “As soon as we saw the tape and made the assessment it was undoubtedly newsworthy, we moved quickly and deliberately to get it published and to do so in the most responsible way.”

The mood at “Today” is “anxious,” according to the person familiar with the matter, particularly among female staffers, who view the revelations about Bush’s involvement with the incident to be of great professional concern. The show’s audience is strongly female, and after a newsy 7 a.m. hour, “Today” tackles more feature-oriented material, including cooking demonstrations and celebrity interviews
I think they will fire him.
I'm not sure what they can do with him now. In some ways, he could almost skate by on the fact that it was 11 years ago (even though he wasn't exactly just a kid when it happened), but his job involves having to talk to people...people who will have been influenced by this. I wouldn't want to talk to him on air.
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

nananana7
Oct 9 2016, 06:21 PM
I'm curious.
Are there any news outlets that both liberals and conservatives can agree are neutral?
I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm genuinely curious.
Not to my knowledge. That's typically why a city has two newspapers - one that leans left and one that leans right.

However, there are several that make an effort to provide both viewpoints. Usually a newspaper identifies as liberal/conservative by the makeup of their editorial board and television by their board of directors.
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Oct 9 2016, 06:28 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:20 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://variety.com/2016/tv/news/billy-bush-today-donald-trump-nbc-news-1201883317/The situation remained in flux as early as Sunday morning, a source told Variety, which first reported the news that NBC was mulling keeping Bush off the show. One of the scenarios being considered was that Al Roker and Tamron Hall would host Monday’s broadcast of the 9 a.m. hour of “Today,” while Bush would be sidelined. Roker was supposed to have taken the day off to deal with a surgical procedure, but is preparing to appear on air, this person said. The ultimate direction is being handed down by executives above Noah Oppenheim, the senior vice president and executive in charge of “Today.”

NBC’s handling of Bush on “Today” is complicated by the fact that the network is on the defensive for taking several days to release the damaging “Access Hollywood” material about Trump, allowing the Washington Post to beat NBC at its own story. Observers have noted that NBC faced legal questions regarding the “Access Hollywood” recording that the Post did not. “NBC News did exactly what you would expect from a great news organization,” a spokesman said. “As soon as we saw the tape and made the assessment it was undoubtedly newsworthy, we moved quickly and deliberately to get it published and to do so in the most responsible way.”

The mood at “Today” is “anxious,” according to the person familiar with the matter, particularly among female staffers, who view the revelations about Bush’s involvement with the incident to be of great professional concern. The show’s audience is strongly female, and after a newsy 7 a.m. hour, “Today” tackles more feature-oriented material, including cooking demonstrations and celebrity interviews
I think they will fire him.
I'm not sure what they can do with him now. In some ways, he could almost skate by on the fact that it was 11 years ago (even though he wasn't exactly just a kid when it happened), but his job involves having to talk to people...people who will have been influenced by this. I wouldn't want to talk to him on air.
Could they force him out without actually having to fire him?
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