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Donald Trumps latest scandal involves Arianne Zucker and DOOL set
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Restless84
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frivolity
Oct 9 2016, 06:24 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:10 PM
If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
Sigh. Academia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
Maybe that is not a result of bias but of something else ...
That implication is insulting. I think it's because they know it's their territory and they can influence students into voting for their cause. A liberal professor was recently caught vandalizing Republican political signs and there are numerous examples of liberal professors trying to stifle conservative speech or thought on campus. Even in high school, my teachers tried to tell me and the rest of my classmates that Bush was evil and I thought that was very wrong. They start on kids as young as they can.
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Why would NBC be hesitant to fire Billy Bush?
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:30 PM
frivolity
Oct 9 2016, 06:24 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepAcademia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
Maybe that is not a result of bias but of something else ...
That implication is insulting. I think it's because they know it's their territory and they can influence students into voting for their cause. A liberal professor was recently caught vandalizing Republican political signs and there are numerous examples of liberal professors trying to stifle conservative speech or thought on campus. Even in high school, my teachers tried to tell me and the rest of my classmates that Bush was evil and I thought that was very wrong. They start on kids as young as they can.
You're making the same implications, lol. Over and over and over. If these implications bother you, stop doing them in reverse.
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:24 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:10 PM
If your way of seeing things involves too much conspiracy - the mainstream media has a liberal agenda, the universities have a liberal agenda, the freaking FBI guy has a liberal agenda - that's just way too fishy. I mean, how convenient to be able to dismiss everything away without ever needing to address the actual points.

We can't ever discuss anything if we can't agree on basic aspects of reality.
Sigh. Academia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?

I know there are more liberal professors in universities. I know that college education correlates positively with liberal views. That does not make everything that comes out of a university study, for example, a product of an agenda and therefore untrustworthy. That is basically saying no liberal can ever say anything trustworthy, which is a disingenuous way to always be in the right. We all have some bias or other, so nothing anyone says can be trusted? Society cannot operate without trust. This is a downward spiral that will go nowhere.

I'm not saying to never trust professors or Universities (I had some liberal professors that were great & fair; others not), but don't buy what they're selling without asking yourself if they might have their own political agenda first.
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lysie
Oct 9 2016, 06:32 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:30 PM
frivolity
Oct 9 2016, 06:24 PM
That implication is insulting. I think it's because they know it's their territory and they can influence students into voting for their cause. A liberal professor was recently caught vandalizing Republican political signs and there are numerous examples of liberal professors trying to stifle conservative speech or thought on campus. Even in high school, my teachers tried to tell me and the rest of my classmates that Bush was evil and I thought that was very wrong. They start on kids as young as they can.
You're making the same implications, lol. Over and over and over. If these implications bother you, stop doing them in reverse.
Or maybe someone can stop doing them to me.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM
Sigh. Academia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
Are you implying that it's mostly liberals that get hired as teachers and journalists leaving conservatives left out? The only other way there can't be enough conservative teachers and journalists is that there aren't enough of them going into those professions.
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[twitter=JreynoldsJames/status/785232183145279488]
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:30 PM
frivolity
Oct 9 2016, 06:24 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepAcademia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
Maybe that is not a result of bias but of something else ...
That implication is insulting. I think it's because they know it's their territory and they can influence students into voting for their cause. A liberal professor was recently caught vandalizing Republican political signs and there are numerous examples of liberal professors trying to stifle conservative speech or thought on campus. Even in high school, my teachers tried to tell me and the rest of my classmates that Bush was evil and I thought that was very wrong. They start on kids as young as they can.
Source? When I started TAing (and then teaching solo), we were taught that students should never be able to tell what our politics were. With the increasing consumer mentality in universities, I have trouble believing that there has been a complete reversal of this policy. It certainly hasn't been true in any of the universities where I've taught.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:34 PM
lysie
Oct 9 2016, 06:32 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:30 PM
You're making the same implications, lol. Over and over and over. If these implications bother you, stop doing them in reverse.
Or maybe someone can stop doing them to me.
So you want everyone else to stop, despite the fact that you keep doing it. Okie doke. Everyone else is dealing with it just fine. You should be able to as well.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:34 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 06:24 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?

I know there are more liberal professors in universities. I know that college education correlates positively with liberal views. That does not make everything that comes out of a university study, for example, a product of an agenda and therefore untrustworthy. That is basically saying no liberal can ever say anything trustworthy, which is a disingenuous way to always be in the right. We all have some bias or other, so nothing anyone says can be trusted? Society cannot operate without trust. This is a downward spiral that will go nowhere.

I'm not saying to never trust professors or Universities (I had some liberal professors that were great & fair; others not), but don't buy what they're selling without asking yourself if they might have their own political agenda first.
They might, yes.

Then you have to go further though. You gather information from different sources, you compare and contrast, you look at methodology, and you ascertain whether a biased result is likely or not. You can't just stop at "there might be a bias because of this connection, therefore you can't believe this source on any given topic." There has to be a truth out there, and we can do things to get closer to it.

I'm curious how many other outlets are corroborating what Breitbart reported on Comey being compromised.
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Kenny
Oct 9 2016, 02:54 PM
[twitter=Ari_Zucker/status/785204569995227136]

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"My name is Arianne (R-E-on) ZUCKER (Zooker) and I am a strong, independent, hard working mother, business woman and partner to a great man. I have grown to learn that the words of others cannot effect the value of my self worth or define the content of my character. How we treat one another, whether behind closed doors, locker rooms or face to face, should be done with kindness, dignity and respect. Unfortunately, there are too many people in power who abuse their position and disregard these simple principles and are rewarded for it. In understanding the magnitude of this situation, I choose to stand tall with self respect and use my voice to enrich, inspire and elevate the best of who we are as people."
I have a lot of respect for Ari.

A strong and very well written statement from her.
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Miss Rhi
Oct 9 2016, 06:35 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM
Sigh. Academia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
Are you implying that it's mostly liberals that get hired as teachers and journalists leaving conservatives left out? The only other way there can't be enough conservative teachers and journalists is that there aren't enough of them going into those professions.
The only thing I'm saying is that Academia and media lean to the left. I'm not implying anything as to why that is or how it got that way. It just is.
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Oct 9 2016, 06:37 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:34 PM
lysie
Oct 9 2016, 06:32 PM
Or maybe someone can stop doing them to me.
So you want everyone else to stop, despite the fact that you keep doing it. Okie doke. Everyone else is dealing with it just fine. You should be able to as well.
Well I'm still here as pretty much the only person arguing against tons of posters, so I think I'm dealing with it fine.
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Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:30 PM
frivolity
Oct 9 2016, 06:24 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:16 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepAcademia is overwhelmingly populated with liberals. Proven by the freaking Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/

Same with journalists:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/

That's not a conspiracy theory. You think there is implicit bias in race but no bias in academia or the media towards democrats/liberals?
Maybe that is not a result of bias but of something else ...
That implication is insulting. I think it's because they know it's their territory and they can influence students into voting for their cause. A liberal professor was recently caught vandalizing Republican political signs and there are numerous examples of liberal professors trying to stifle conservative speech or thought on campus. Even in high school, my teachers tried to tell me and the rest of my classmates that Bush was evil and I thought that was very wrong. They start on kids as young as they can.
Teachers need to keep their opinions like that to themselves. It isn't their job to teach kids like that.
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Vincent Irizarry retweeted Ari's tweet.

Casey Moss retweeted Paul Telfer's tweet about donating to Ari's arrow-heart.com charity.
Edited by nananana7, Oct 9 2016, 06:44 PM.
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Oct 9 2016, 06:42 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:37 PM
Restless84
Oct 9 2016, 06:34 PM
So you want everyone else to stop, despite the fact that you keep doing it. Okie doke. Everyone else is dealing with it just fine. You should be able to as well.
Well I'm still here as pretty much the only person arguing against tons of posters, so I think I'm dealing with it fine.
Then please stop complaining every time someone responds to you the same way you respond to everyone else. That's what I'm talking about it. We're not complaining when you do it to us.
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Oct 9 2016, 12:38 AM

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Trump recently attacked his ex beauty pageant contestant of calling her fat. That was not very nice though. :shrug:
Yeah, I meant that as a joke.

I think I'm going back to my initial position of not voting for anyone in the presidential race. This election is embarrassing.


Never mind what I said :smile: Read your post wrong...
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No lie...Donald Trump is having a press conference as we speak with 4 of Bill's victims. Live on CNN. And he's bringing them to the debate .
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Oct 8 2016, 10:22 PM


Steven Nichols tweeted out a link to this opinion column today.
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

Interesting study released in May 2016 by Xavier University.

"Surveys conducted by the Xavier University in Ohio have provided a different explanation of the prevalence of liberal academics in colleges. The survey outlined the so-called 'Self-Selection Hypothesis', which proposed that conservatives were less likely to pursue careers in academia due to a combination of personal preference and belief that they would face more challenges in achieving academic success due in a progressive-dominated field. The study found that conservatives aspired to get into higher-paying jobs, whilst liberals were more likely to be affiliated with community service occupations and were less influenced by monetary gratification."

http://www.xavier.edu/xjop/documents/Hudson.pdf
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