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Donald Trumps latest scandal involves Arianne Zucker and DOOL set
Topic Started: Oct 7 2016, 04:26 PM (50,189 Views)
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Hillary could just as easy have a press conference with Trump's accusers,but she hasn't.
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DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:58 PM
If Bills accusers want to be upset with The Clinton,fine,but your standing by the wrong guy,a guy also accused of rape and was caught on video saying he can grope women anytime he wants,Trump is the wrong messenger for this,if it was a guy with no history of being a pig I would say ok fine,but he's not the right guy to do it.
This is what is so bizarre to me. Trump has as many women accusing him of assault and rape. Trump and Bill Clinton have quite a bit in common, why is he (Trump) going here? How can this end well for him?
It's not about ending well. It's about going out in a blaze of glory (in his mind). It's about his unending belief that Hilary "can't take the heat" and will wilt under the sting of his insults and attacks (because she's never faced this kind of thing before you know). It's about proving his superiority by "playing hardball" and, most importantly, it's about playing to his die-hard supporters. He's lost everybody else, but his ego couldn't handle losing them.
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Luce
Oct 9 2016, 07:02 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:38 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:35 PM
The only thing I'm saying is that Academia and media lean to the left. I'm not implying anything as to why that is or how it got that way. It just is.
Yes you are. You literally just said in another post that you think liberals go into those positions in order to influence people. You didn't say anything about the possibility that there may be other, less nefarious reasons that liberal people are drawn to those positions.

What does this mean about the military? You told me that the area you are from is military (I'm not sure whether that means you live near a base or what), and they're overwhelmingly conservative. Using your logic, what generalization do you suggest I apply to the tendency of the military to be full of conservatives?
I was throwing out a guess based on my own experience of liberal professors. Some do seem to like to do that while I noted others DIDN'T. I really don't know the full story of why it is what it is. I just know I detested some of the bias I witnessed. I live near Camp Lejune, Cherry Point, and Fort Bragg. So tons of military live near me as well as military vets. That's what it means.
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Quote of Trump from 1999 about running for president.

https://twitter.com/charlesmblow/status/785246096473919488
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esp13
Oct 9 2016, 07:10 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:58 PM
If Bills accusers want to be upset with The Clinton,fine,but your standing by the wrong guy,a guy also accused of rape and was caught on video saying he can grope women anytime he wants,Trump is the wrong messenger for this,if it was a guy with no history of being a pig I would say ok fine,but he's not the right guy to do it.
This is what is so bizarre to me. Trump has as many women accusing him of assault and rape. Trump and Bill Clinton have quite a bit in common, why is he (Trump) going here? How can this end well for him?
It's not about ending well. It's about going out in a blaze of glory (in his mind). It's about his unending belief that Hilary "can't take the heat" and will wilt under the sting of his insults and attacks (because she's never faced this kind of thing before you know). It's about proving his superiority by "playing hardball" and, most importantly, it's about playing to his die-hard supporters. He's lost everybody else, but his ego couldn't handle losing them.
And maybe she'll prove me wrong, but it just doesn't seem likely at all that she wasn't completely prepared for this. It might have been an effective strategy if we didn't all know this was going to be a topic of conversation tonight. Though probably not.
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esp13
Oct 9 2016, 07:10 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:58 PM
If Bills accusers want to be upset with The Clinton,fine,but your standing by the wrong guy,a guy also accused of rape and was caught on video saying he can grope women anytime he wants,Trump is the wrong messenger for this,if it was a guy with no history of being a pig I would say ok fine,but he's not the right guy to do it.
This is what is so bizarre to me. Trump has as many women accusing him of assault and rape. Trump and Bill Clinton have quite a bit in common, why is he (Trump) going here? How can this end well for him?
It's not about ending well. It's about going out in a blaze of glory (in his mind). It's about his unending belief that Hilary "can't take the heat" and will wilt under the sting of his insults and attacks (because she's never faced this kind of thing before you know). It's about proving his superiority by "playing hardball" and, most importantly, it's about playing to his die-hard supporters. He's lost everybody else, but his ego couldn't handle losing them.
Politically yeah I totally get it, this is like leaving a pile of poo on your boss' desk before you collect your termination papers.

But wouldn't it be really bad for his brand and his business if his own sexual assault history gets out further?
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^ Jason47 already posted this image, from his facebook. Just reposting via tinypic because sometimes facebook image urls disappear.
Edited by nananana7, Oct 9 2016, 07:17 PM.
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 07:15 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 07:10 PM
DesignatedShelley
Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM

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It's not about ending well. It's about going out in a blaze of glory (in his mind). It's about his unending belief that Hilary "can't take the heat" and will wilt under the sting of his insults and attacks (because she's never faced this kind of thing before you know). It's about proving his superiority by "playing hardball" and, most importantly, it's about playing to his die-hard supporters. He's lost everybody else, but his ego couldn't handle losing them.
Politically yeah I totally get it, this is like leaving a pile of poo on your boss' desk before you collect your termination papers.

But wouldn't it be really bad for his brand and his business if his own sexual assault history gets out further?
His brand is pretty much diminished at this point. Regardless how the election turns out, he is going to face multiple investigations - some with serious consequences.
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Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:58 PM
If Bills accusers want to be upset with The Clinton,fine,but your standing by the wrong guy,a guy also accused of rape and was caught on video saying he can grope women anytime he wants,Trump is the wrong messenger for this,if it was a guy with no history of being a pig I would say ok fine,but he's not the right guy to do it.
This is what is so bizarre to me. Trump has as many women accusing him of assault and rape. Trump and Bill Clinton have quite a bit in common, why is he (Trump) going here? How can this end well for him?
It didn't take long for news channels to pull up videos of Donald Trump defending Bill Clinton in 1998 and saying Paula Jones' accusations were false. He doesn't care about these women. He's at the point where if he's going down, he's taking everyone with him.
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Oct 9 2016, 07:25 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:58 PM
If Bills accusers want to be upset with The Clinton,fine,but your standing by the wrong guy,a guy also accused of rape and was caught on video saying he can grope women anytime he wants,Trump is the wrong messenger for this,if it was a guy with no history of being a pig I would say ok fine,but he's not the right guy to do it.
This is what is so bizarre to me. Trump has as many women accusing him of assault and rape. Trump and Bill Clinton have quite a bit in common, why is he (Trump) going here? How can this end well for him?
It didn't take long for news channels to pull up videos of Donald Trump defending Bill Clinton in 1998 and saying Paula Jones' accusations were false. He doesn't care about these women. He's at the point where if he's going down, he's taking everyone with him.
Yes, and he said that HRC went through a lot and she was an admirable woman.

And he called Paula Jones a loser back then.
Edited by DesignatedShelley, Oct 9 2016, 07:28 PM.
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Oct 9 2016, 07:25 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:58 PM
If Bills accusers want to be upset with The Clinton,fine,but your standing by the wrong guy,a guy also accused of rape and was caught on video saying he can grope women anytime he wants,Trump is the wrong messenger for this,if it was a guy with no history of being a pig I would say ok fine,but he's not the right guy to do it.
This is what is so bizarre to me. Trump has as many women accusing him of assault and rape. Trump and Bill Clinton have quite a bit in common, why is he (Trump) going here? How can this end well for him?
It didn't take long for news channels to pull up videos of Donald Trump defending Bill Clinton in 1998 and saying Paula Jones' accusations were false. He doesn't care about these women. He's at the point where if he's going down, he's taking everyone with him.
Of course he doesn't care.

It doesn't even make sense for them to even want to be NEAR Trump. He has been accused of assault like Bill has.
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Amber Tamblyn posted this sad,sick story on Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLWMkrSDopR/?hl=en
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USA Today is reporting that Billy Bush was just suspended from the "Today" show.
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And maybe just maybe he has spent some time with the victims. Gotten to know them and their personal stories and he's changed his views of what happened.
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Convenient he does that now.


A debate is about the issues of today,this is a distraction.
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laurondo
Oct 9 2016, 07:27 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 07:25 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM

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It didn't take long for news channels to pull up videos of Donald Trump defending Bill Clinton in 1998 and saying Paula Jones' accusations were false. He doesn't care about these women. He's at the point where if he's going down, he's taking everyone with him.
Of course he doesn't care.

It doesn't even make sense for them to even want to be NEAR Trump. He has been accused of assault like Bill has.
When confronted with the accounts of the women who say Trump assaulted them, will these women extend their solidarity to them? Or will they continue saying Donald Trump is a hero?
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They are saying DTs press conference as brave. How?
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http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/09/billy-bush-today-show-host

Bush has officially been suspended.
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funone
Oct 9 2016, 07:37 PM
They are saying DTs press conference as brave. How?
The victims are brave for speaking out, I'd say.

Still doesn't make sense to me that they're doing it the way they are, but y'know.
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laurondo
Oct 9 2016, 07:39 PM
funone
Oct 9 2016, 07:37 PM
They are saying DTs press conference as brave. How?
The victims are brave for speaking out, I'd say.

Still doesn't make sense to me that they're doing it the way they are, but y'know.
Not when they are standing next to Trump
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