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Topic Started: Oct 10 2016, 01:05 AM (36,069 Views)
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clubkylie
Oct 13 2016, 12:52 PM
Regarding AZ's skirt length bullshit, isn't she just wearing what Nicole wears in the episode Trump was there to tape? Aka she's in COSTUME. Aka she's AT WORK. Aka she's DOING HER JOB. It's ludicrous the length (see what I did there?) people will go defend pigs.
LOL, you know what the next step is after it's pointed out that that is a costume, right?

"Well, maybe she shouldn't have chosen to be on a sleazy soap opera and it wouldn't have happened."
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Oct 12 2016, 05:43 PM
ICan'tWithTrump
Oct 11 2016, 07:32 PM
Y'all, Ari is still trending on Facebook 5 days later.


There was an article published a couple of days ago, written by Heather McDonald, which has gotten a lot of press. She bashes feminists for complaining that women are acting the victim because she feels they are asking for it. She blames AZ for the way she is dressed in the Trump video. I had a long car ride this morning and listened to an interview with her. I was yelling back at the radio that she was dressed as Nicole in the leaked video. And even if that was her own clothing, let's be honest, how many women would love to have AZ's legs? I'll admit it; I would. Heather McDonald equates dressing nicely, wearing make-up among other things with women asking for it.

Sorry to be continuing this conversation, but very few reports I've heard/seen since last week mention AZ. Most just refer to her as some random soap actress.

Mods, go ahead and delete if this is inappropriate.
She could have been walking around naked, it's still not an invitation to be grabbed without consent. Or kissed. Or touched inappropriately. Or even talked about that way.

Women take precautions (not responding to catcalling, wearing pants instead of skirts, walking in packs, taking the route that's lit up, taking a taxi instead of walking) because we're not morons. But we shouldn't have to. And rape, groping, assault is still all on the person committing it, Heather McDonald.
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Lovejm
Oct 13 2016, 10:34 AM
Speaking of which. This conversation right here about the 90's is why it was ridiculous john and Marlena had sex the night of the Kristen reveal and got engaged. I mean I know it was an incredibly long wait from 91 until then to see J&M free to be together but good lord give it a few days.
God, I really hate that reunion. I mean, it's the best he's probably ever looked. But OMG, it was so opposite of what I would have wanted.
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Oct 13 2016, 01:38 PM
Marlene
Oct 12 2016, 05:43 PM
ICan'tWithTrump
Oct 11 2016, 07:32 PM
Y'all, Ari is still trending on Facebook 5 days later.


There was an article published a couple of days ago, written by Heather McDonald, which has gotten a lot of press. She bashes feminists for complaining that women are acting the victim because she feels they are asking for it. She blames AZ for the way she is dressed in the Trump video. I had a long car ride this morning and listened to an interview with her. I was yelling back at the radio that she was dressed as Nicole in the leaked video. And even if that was her own clothing, let's be honest, how many women would love to have AZ's legs? I'll admit it; I would. Heather McDonald equates dressing nicely, wearing make-up among other things with women asking for it.

Sorry to be continuing this conversation, but very few reports I've heard/seen since last week mention AZ. Most just refer to her as some random soap actress.

Mods, go ahead and delete if this is inappropriate.
She could have been walking around naked, it's still not an invitation to be grabbed without consent. Or kissed. Or touched inappropriately. Or even talked about that way.

Women take precautions (not responding to catcalling, wearing pants instead of skirts, walking in packs, taking the route that's lit up, taking a taxi instead of walking) because we're not morons. But we shouldn't have to. And rape, groping, assault is still all on the person committing it, Heather McDonald.
That's it. It's the "without consent" part. Look, if you actually want Trump grabbing you by the crotch that's your prerogative. BUT, that's not what Trump is talking about. Trump talked about grabbing females WITHOUT permission. That is assault, period.
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Mods, if you want to delete this, I understand. This will be my last post on the subject. From one of my favorite speakers, Jen Hatmaker, on FB:

Good morning. A few words about Trump's disqualifying and disgraceful comments leaked last week:

First off, for every woman that has been "grabbed by the p*ssy" or "kissed without asking" or "moved on like a b*tch" by a man who held power over you, a man that saw you as an object for his own lust and ego, I could not be more sorry and furious that we now have a presidential candidate not only degrading women but normalizing sexual assault. What a travesty. What a tragedy. What a national disgrace.

Second, I am furious that Trump dared to categorize this as "locker room talk." The hell it is. My husband and sons don't talk like this. My dad doesn't talk like this. My father-in-law doesn't talk like this. My friends don't talk like this. This wasn't "guy banter" - this was a description of terrifying, habitual, sexually abusive behavior toward women.

"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

No, Donald Trump. You cannot do anything. You cannot kiss, grope, grab, and move on women without their permission. You cannot shrug off this behavior as locker room antics. This is not funny, cute, harmless, or normal. You are building and sustaining the sexual abuse culture in which millions of women have been victimized then laughed off.

God forbid you have any influence over my sons and daughters, and everyone's sons and daughters.

Women, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not just a sexual object. You are not subject to men in power simply because they want something. You are not just body parts to be leered at or touched or taken.

Men, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not depraved, sexual deviants caught up in disgraceful talk. You are good men, good husbands and sons and fathers. You are not a part of the lowest common denominator.

Good voters, I want to remind you that you are not stuck or without options on election day. There are four names on the presidential ballot. You can vote your conscience.
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Oct 13 2016, 01:43 PM
Lovejm
Oct 13 2016, 10:34 AM
Speaking of which. This conversation right here about the 90's is why it was ridiculous john and Marlena had sex the night of the Kristen reveal and got engaged. I mean I know it was an incredibly long wait from 91 until then to see J&M free to be together but good lord give it a few days.
God, I really hate that reunion. I mean, it's the best he's probably ever looked. But OMG, it was so opposite of what I would have wanted.
It was rushed, and they were ready to get married the next day LOL I'm glad we had SSM write the wedding, because it was incredible.

Just curious, how would you have had the 1997 reunion play out?
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Oct 13 2016, 09:58 AM
Regarding Kristen personally, I loved the last head writers writing of her :) In the 90's, I remember only a sweet Kristen who became psycho which never make sense considering she was the beautiful, stylish, young, woman who could easily have got any man she wanted, but she turn psycho for John ??? WTF we usually talk about destroying the characters in stories or pimp another characters, well the 90th Kristen pimp Marlena and John, in my opinion. Bristen were hot and it was the only time I noticed the current Brady.l :)
Kristen? Stylish in the 90s?

We may have different definitions of pimping, but Kristen didn't exist to make J&M look better, and she certainly didn't stand around talking about how amazing they looked. I think there might have been some confusion earlier when I said I preferred 90s Kristen to the more recent one. I don't mean I liked her better. I do mean that I enjoyed her story better. She was definitely a pathetic mess, but watching her downfall was enjoyable and well played by ED. I don't think her motivations were too difficult to follow, and I don't think it was all just about her loving John. I think part of it was that and part of it was her losing the baby and part of it was her screwed up childhood/parentage. That's why I say she was more layered then.

However, that was a trope Reilly fell back on far too much back then. Kristen and Billie were too similar. If it hadn't been for the downfall into madness, she'd have just been another bland character that came through with little to no consequence.
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lysie
Oct 13 2016, 02:33 PM
The Scorpion
Oct 13 2016, 09:58 AM
Regarding Kristen personally, I loved the last head writers writing of her :) In the 90's, I remember only a sweet Kristen who became psycho which never make sense considering she was the beautiful, stylish, young, woman who could easily have got any man she wanted, but she turn psycho for John ??? WTF we usually talk about destroying the characters in stories or pimp another characters, well the 90th Kristen pimp Marlena and John, in my opinion. Bristen were hot and it was the only time I noticed the current Brady.l :)
Kristen? Stylish in the 90s?

We may have different definitions of pimping, but Kristen didn't exist to make J&M look better, and she certainly didn't stand around talking about how amazing they looked. I think there might have been some confusion earlier when I said I preferred 90s Kristen to the more recent one. I don't mean I liked her better. I do mean that I enjoyed her story better. She was definitely a pathetic mess, but watching her downfall was enjoyable and well played by ED. I don't think her motivations were too difficult to follow, and I don't think it was all just about her loving John. I think part of it was that and part of it was her losing the baby and part of it was her screwed up childhood/parentage. That's why I say she was more layered then.

However, that was a trope Reilly fell back on far too much back then. Kristen and Billie were too similar. If it hadn't been for the downfall into madness, she'd have just been another bland character that came through with little to no consequence.
Ok stylish in that era :) I do not know but John chased Kristen when she was with Tony, I will remember pretty hot scenes in the cabin. She was the good girl then as happened to be Stefano's adopted daughter, anyway, it was quite crystal clear that she come out psycho or've become the bad girl so John's love for Marlena would prevail, etc. I saw it as pimping John and Marlena. IMO I did not like it one bit and would rather have seen her move on to something better.
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Oct 13 2016, 02:33 PM
The Scorpion
Oct 13 2016, 09:58 AM
Regarding Kristen personally, I loved the last head writers writing of her :) In the 90's, I remember only a sweet Kristen who became psycho which never make sense considering she was the beautiful, stylish, young, woman who could easily have got any man she wanted, but she turn psycho for John ??? WTF we usually talk about destroying the characters in stories or pimp another characters, well the 90th Kristen pimp Marlena and John, in my opinion. Bristen were hot and it was the only time I noticed the current Brady.l :)
Kristen? Stylish in the 90s?
This isn't your idea of something that should be in Vogue? ;)

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For me I wouldn't have had them sleep together and get engaged the same day he was marrying Kristen. Or Susan or whoever that was as Marlena joked that day.

To top it off, not only did they rush that, they had Roman appear directly afterwards. After years of hurry up and wait, they rushed the whole thing and started a new disaster right after.
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ICan'tWithTrump
Oct 13 2016, 02:15 PM
Mods, if you want to delete this, I understand. This will be my last post on the subject. From one of my favorite speakers, Jen Hatmaker, on FB:

Good morning. A few words about Trump's disqualifying and disgraceful comments leaked last week:

First off, for every woman that has been "grabbed by the p*ssy" or "kissed without asking" or "moved on like a b*tch" by a man who held power over you, a man that saw you as an object for his own lust and ego, I could not be more sorry and furious that we now have a presidential candidate not only degrading women but normalizing sexual assault. What a travesty. What a tragedy. What a national disgrace.

Second, I am furious that Trump dared to categorize this as "locker room talk." The hell it is. My husband and sons don't talk like this. My dad doesn't talk like this. My father-in-law doesn't talk like this. My friends don't talk like this. This wasn't "guy banter" - this was a description of terrifying, habitual, sexually abusive behavior toward women.

"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

No, Donald Trump. You cannot do anything. You cannot kiss, grope, grab, and move on women without their permission. You cannot shrug off this behavior as locker room antics. This is not funny, cute, harmless, or normal. You are building and sustaining the sexual abuse culture in which millions of women have been victimized then laughed off.

God forbid you have any influence over my sons and daughters, and everyone's sons and daughters.

Women, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not just a sexual object. You are not subject to men in power simply because they want something. You are not just body parts to be leered at or touched or taken.

Men, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not depraved, sexual deviants caught up in disgraceful talk. You are good men, good husbands and sons and fathers. You are not a part of the lowest common denominator.

Good voters, I want to remind you that you are not stuck or without options on election day. There are four names on the presidential ballot. You can vote your conscience.
OT, thank you very much. Now ignored.
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Oct 13 2016, 03:04 PM
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Oct 13 2016, 02:33 PM
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Oct 13 2016, 09:58 AM
Regarding Kristen personally, I loved the last head writers writing of her :) In the 90's, I remember only a sweet Kristen who became psycho which never make sense considering she was the beautiful, stylish, young, woman who could easily have got any man she wanted, but she turn psycho for John ??? WTF we usually talk about destroying the characters in stories or pimp another characters, well the 90th Kristen pimp Marlena and John, in my opinion. Bristen were hot and it was the only time I noticed the current Brady.l :)
Kristen? Stylish in the 90s?
This isn't your idea of something that should be in Vogue? ;)

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Ugh!! That hair! lol
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Lovejm
Oct 13 2016, 03:09 PM
For me I wouldn't have had them sleep together and get engaged the same day he was marrying Kristen. Or Susan or whoever that was as Marlena joked that day.

To top it off, not only did they rush that, they had Roman appear directly afterwards. After years of hurry up and wait, they rushed the whole thing and started a new disaster right after.
It really was weird. That payoff was so damn good and then you get the rushed fallout and then on to the next story. I know JER was leaving so they likely had to wrap up alot of things before SSM took over but it was such an odd time. The pacing was just so unlike JER.

And the Roman thing is just odd. I think that was something JER had in his back pocket if he needed another reason to keep J&M apart because that is what he liked to do but it's weird that he would play that card when he did in his final months of material. I always felt like SSM wanted no part of that story or the jungle stuff. I know she kept the jungle madness crap going for a few months after but I think she just used that because it was there. Once her material started airing, she wrapped up the jungle stuff pretty quick and, within 3 months, Roman learned about J&M and that whole mess of a triangle came to a pretty lackluster end. It almost felt things got pushed up and JER was forced to use the Roman and jungle stuff to fill the rest of his time on the show because the only story left without a payoff that needed to play out was Carrie/Austin/Sami. Every other story had pretty much finished.
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Oct 13 2016, 03:34 PM
Lovejm
Oct 13 2016, 03:09 PM
For me I wouldn't have had them sleep together and get engaged the same day he was marrying Kristen. Or Susan or whoever that was as Marlena joked that day.

To top it off, not only did they rush that, they had Roman appear directly afterwards. After years of hurry up and wait, they rushed the whole thing and started a new disaster right after.
It really was weird. That payoff was so damn good and then you get the rushed fallout and then on to the next story. I know JER was leaving so they likely had to wrap up alot of things before SSM took over but it was such an odd time. The pacing was just so unlike JER.

And the Roman thing is just odd. I think that was something JER had in his back pocket if he needed another reason to keep J&M apart because that is what he liked to do but it's weird that he would play that card when he did in his final months of material. I always felt like SSM wanted no part of that story or the jungle stuff. I know she kept the jungle madness crap going for a few months after but I think she just used that because it was there. Once her material started airing, she wrapped up the jungle stuff pretty quick and, within 3 months, Roman learned about J&M and that whole mess of a triangle came to a pretty lackluster end. It almost felt things got pushed up and JER was forced to use the Roman and jungle stuff to fill the rest of his time on the show because the only story left without a payoff that needed to play out was Carrie/Austin/Sami. Every other story had pretty much finished.
It probably would have gone three more years if he stayed LOL. And it was so half hearted. I don't think anyone felt she was actually going to choose Roman. It was just guilt upon guilt. My bigger problem then was the clear hope John direction they were starting in the jungle. Oh and that room of baby stuff they found at the compound
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Oct 13 2016, 04:06 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 10:42 PM
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Oct 12 2016, 10:35 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepI saw a man comment on the FB People article "what do you expect from a sleazy soap actress? She's dressed like a hooker anyway" Then a woman replied to that & said "I've watched Days for many years. She has always been a slut."

WTF?! I just knew that Ari would be seen as "Nicole" by some of these people. :soapbox: :redface:
It's hard when people are unable to tell the difference between fact and fiction.
Oh wow....just speechless with the FB comments! :shame:
And yeah, can't they separate real from fiction. Like they have not watched a movie in their lives.
They probably still think Julia Roberts once worked as a prostitute.
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Lovejm
Oct 13 2016, 03:39 PM
PhoenixRising05
Oct 13 2016, 03:34 PM
Lovejm
Oct 13 2016, 03:09 PM
For me I wouldn't have had them sleep together and get engaged the same day he was marrying Kristen. Or Susan or whoever that was as Marlena joked that day.

To top it off, not only did they rush that, they had Roman appear directly afterwards. After years of hurry up and wait, they rushed the whole thing and started a new disaster right after.
It really was weird. That payoff was so damn good and then you get the rushed fallout and then on to the next story. I know JER was leaving so they likely had to wrap up alot of things before SSM took over but it was such an odd time. The pacing was just so unlike JER.

And the Roman thing is just odd. I think that was something JER had in his back pocket if he needed another reason to keep J&M apart because that is what he liked to do but it's weird that he would play that card when he did in his final months of material. I always felt like SSM wanted no part of that story or the jungle stuff. I know she kept the jungle madness crap going for a few months after but I think she just used that because it was there. Once her material started airing, she wrapped up the jungle stuff pretty quick and, within 3 months, Roman learned about J&M and that whole mess of a triangle came to a pretty lackluster end. It almost felt things got pushed up and JER was forced to use the Roman and jungle stuff to fill the rest of his time on the show because the only story left without a payoff that needed to play out was Carrie/Austin/Sami. Every other story had pretty much finished.
It probably would have gone three more years if he stayed LOL. And it was so half hearted. I don't think anyone felt she was actually going to choose Roman. It was just guilt upon guilt. My bigger problem then was the clear hope John direction they were starting in the jungle. Oh and that room of baby stuff they found at the compound
I always felt like the jungle stuff was supposed to go on longer. I feel like John was supposed to go MIA and remain in the jungle for awhile, maybe even be presumed dead, which would allow Roman and Marlena to grow closer. That whole jungle story was over within 6 weeks and it felt very rushed. Of course, the baby stuff and John/Hope aspect to me was meant to be further angst for J&M and B&H and I think those were all JER ideas. He loved to just plant seeds and always have the next hurdle ready to go. I think they basically went with JER outlines and SSM took over and just abandoned alot of it It's just so weird because it was clear they were wrapping up alot of JER stories in June 1997. The pacing picked up and the Carrie/Austin/Sami stuff was the only thing left. To start so much new story with JER leaving and for it to obviously be ideas he had was very odd.
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Oct 13 2016, 11:14 AM
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Oct 13 2016, 11:03 AM
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Oct 13 2016, 10:44 AM

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They would have gone back to Ericole sooner or later IMO. Seric wasn't created as a rootable couple. The more angst the more investment from fans. I understand the logic.
Precisely because they wasted so much time on Nicole and Daniel, I can not take Ericole seriousley from Nicole's side, love story ??? Well, needed really talented writers to convince me. Just saying.
What about all the time wasted on Safe.....
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