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Oct 13 2016, 11:46 AM
Hell hath no fury...Hurricane "Nicole" is in the news!
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I think Ari handled that really well. She found the one positive in the story - encouraging women to tell their story and to feel able to say this kind of behaviour isn't just fun stuff from the angle of the victims it has an impact on peoples lives.

She avoided getting drawn into any of the political stuff.
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For me I wouldn't have had them sleep together and get engaged the same day he was marrying Kristen. Or Susan or whoever that was as Marlena joked that day.

To top it off, not only did they rush that, they had Roman appear directly afterwards. After years of hurry up and wait, they rushed the whole thing and started a new disaster right after.
It really was weird. That payoff was so day mn good and then you get the rushed fallout and then on to the next story. I know JER was leaving so they likely had to wrap up alot of things before SSM took over but it was such an odd time. The pacing was just so unlike JER.

And the Roman thing is just odd. I think that was something JER had in his back pocket if he needed another reason to keep J&M apart because that is what he liked to do but it's weird that he would play that card when he did in his final months of material. I always felt like SSM wanted no part of that story or the jungle stuff. I know she kept the jungle madness crap going for a few months after but I think she just used that because it was there. Once her material started airing, she wrapped up the jungle stuff pretty quick and, within 3 months, Roman learned about J&M and that whole mess of a triangle came to a pretty lackluster end. It almost felt things got pushed up and JER was forced to use the Roman and jungle stuff to fill the rest of his time on the show because the only story left without a payoff that needed to play out was Carrie/Austin/Sami. Every other story had pretty much finished.
It probably would have gone three more years if he stayed LOL. And it was so half hearted. I don't think anyone felt she was actually going to choose Roman. It was just guilt upon guilt. My bigger problem then was the clear hope John direction they were starting in the jungle. Oh and that room of baby stuff they found at the compound
Ugh of JER had stayed John would have arrived to late at the church and Marlena would have married Roman in 97. Then J/M would have carried on with an affair waiting until he was good enough so she could get a divorce and tell him of their feelings. It would have dragged for another 6 months and somehow Kristen would miraculously end up pregnant with John's baby. 2 years later John and Marlena get back together and plan the wedding of the century but he is kidnapped by Gina/Hope on the day of the wedding turns into the pawn and Marlena and Bo go chasing after them all around Europe.

Oh and after John and Hope go back to normal they suddenly start developing feelings for each other causing more angst for Jarlena and Bope... It would have been a disaster!!

I was just rewatching 1997/98 and they were really setting up John and Hope lol :rolleyes: especially with the jungle Stuff. I actually got a little scared in 2004 cause they were getting a little too close while Bo was searching for Billie in Europe and Marlena was being a serial killer. Thankfully it didn't go that direction but I wasn't too happy about Faux and Kate either or Billie and Patrick for Bope.

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Oct 13 2016, 12:19 PM
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Just curious, but did you ever like Ericole because I don't remember you liking them, or Eric for that matter, and before this rewrite of Daniel being the love of her life, the show did a damn good job of selling Nicole's love for Eric, and his for her.

I'll be honest, I had great expectations when they cast GV and resumed Eric at first, I had expectations of a Thorn Bird Story, but the story which was played out was nothing that appealed to me, I thought Eric was stiff and dull and priest thing bored me. And the Daniel thing did not make things better later, I understand that people want to see Ericole because there is chemistry between the actors on stage :) I just hope that they write a more exciting story than what was shown earlier thats all. And I have trouble seeing Nicole so in love in Eric when she was all in with Daniel , my God, she still talks about Daniel in between. lol
In case I wasn't obvious the first time.... parallels to SAFE.

There's enough concerned looks between the two of them, the time just wasn't right, heated sad moments - I don't see anything that stops Ericole happening based on the history of prior couples on this show.
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Oct 13 2016, 04:11 PM
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Oct 13 2016, 11:46 AM
Hell hath no fury...Hurricane "Nicole" is in the news!
????????????

I think Ari handled that really well. She found the one positive in the story - encouraging women to tell their story and to feel able to say this kind of behaviour isn't just fun stuff from the angle of the victims it has an impact on peoples lives.

She avoided getting drawn into any of the political stuff.


LOL! Hurricane Nicole is a real hurricane out in the sea that might make a landing to the USA. :biggrin: The poster use the real weather and compared that to Ari Zucker just to make everyone laugh.
Edited by tiff5555, Oct 13 2016, 04:25 PM.
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I'll be honest, I had great expectations when they cast GV and resumed Eric at first, I had expectations of a Thorn Bird Story, but the story which was played out was nothing that appealed to me, I thought Eric was stiff and dull and priest thing bored me. And the Daniel thing did not make things better later, I understand that people want to see Ericole because there is chemistry between the actors on stage :) I just hope that they write a more exciting story than what was shown earlier thats all. And I have trouble seeing Nicole so in love in Eric when she was all in with Daniel , my God, she still talks about Daniel in between. lol
In case I wasn't obvious the first time.... parallels to SAFE.

There's enough concerned looks between the two of them, the time just wasn't right, heated sad moments - I don't see anything that stops Ericole happening based on the history of prior couples on this show.
You have a point :) I'm sure Ericole is in the cards so to speak, but I really hope it's a good story this time. Interesting, exciting, compelling, etc. No corny shit and dull crap thanks.
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Regarding Kristen personally, I loved the last head writers writing of her :) In the 90's, I remember only a sweet Kristen who became psycho which never make sense considering she was the beautiful, stylish, young, woman who could easily have got any man she wanted, but she turn psycho for John ??? WTF we usually talk about destroying the characters in stories or pimp another characters, well the 90th Kristen pimp Marlena and John, in my opinion. Bristen were hot and it was the only time I noticed the current Brady.l :)
Kristen? Stylish in the 90s?

We may have different definitions of pimping, but Kristen didn't exist to make J&M look better, and she certainly didn't stand around talking about how amazing they looked. I think there might have been some confusion earlier when I said I preferred 90s Kristen to the more recent one. I don't mean I liked her better. I do mean that I enjoyed her story better. She was definitely a pathetic mess, but watching her downfall was enjoyable and well played by ED. I don't think her motivations were too difficult to follow, and I don't think it was all just about her loving John. I think part of it was that and part of it was her losing the baby and part of it was her screwed up childhood/parentage. That's why I say she was more layered then.

However, that was a trope Reilly fell back on far too much back then. Kristen and Billie were too similar. If it hadn't been for the downfall into madness, she'd have just been another bland character that came through with little to no consequence.
Ok stylish in that era :) I do not know but John chased Kristen when she was with Tony, I will remember pretty hot scenes in the cabin. She was the good girl then as happened to be Stefano's adopted daughter, anyway, it was quite crystal clear that she come out psycho or've become the bad girl so John's love for Marlena would prevail, etc. I saw it as pimping John and Marlena. IMO I did not like it one bit and would rather have seen her move on to something better.
There's a difference in a rooting couple and pimping. They would have prevailed whether she went bad or not. That was set up long before she went psycho. If she hadn't gone bad, she would be a blip on Days' radar. Rooting couples can be pimped, but I don't think she pimped them. She didn't need to. If anything, she did the opposite.
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Oct 13 2016, 04:25 PM
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Oct 13 2016, 04:11 PM
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Oct 13 2016, 11:46 AM
Hell hath no fury...Hurricane "Nicole" is in the news!
????????????

I think Ari handled that really well. She found the one positive in the story - encouraging women to tell their story and to feel able to say this kind of behaviour isn't just fun stuff from the angle of the victims it has an impact on peoples lives.

She avoided getting drawn into any of the political stuff.


LOL! Hurricane Nicole is a real hurricane out in the sea that might make a landing to the USA. :biggrin: The poster use the real weather and compared that to Ari Zucker just to make everyone laugh.
I also wonder why the hurricane was named Nicole. Maybe the weather people play in the sands without sticking their heads in it or it was simply time for the name to be used. Nonetheless, it's the perfect storm!
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Oct 13 2016, 04:26 PM
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In case I wasn't obvious the first time.... parallels to SAFE.

There's enough concerned looks between the two of them, the time just wasn't right, heated sad moments - I don't see anything that stops Ericole happening based on the history of prior couples on this show.
You have a point :) I'm sure Ericole is in the cards so to speak, but I really hope it's a good story this time. Interesting, exciting, compelling, etc. No corny shit and dull crap thanks.
I'm sorry..but it makes me laugh that somehow pre-psycho Kristen fit the sex, interesting, compelling thing for you but Eric didn't lol. The devout Catholic social worker in flower hats and ankle length dresses.
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Ok stylish in that era :) I do not know but John chased Kristen when she was with Tony, I will remember pretty hot scenes in the cabin. She was the good girl then as happened to be Stefano's adopted daughter, anyway, it was quite crystal clear that she come out psycho or've become the bad girl so John's love for Marlena would prevail, etc. I saw it as pimping John and Marlena. IMO I did not like it one bit and would rather have seen her move on to something better.
There's a difference in a rooting couple and pimping. They would have prevailed whether she went bad or not. That was set up long before she went psycho. If she hadn't gone bad, she would be a blip on Days' radar. Rooting couples can be pimped, but I don't think she pimped them. She didn't need to. If anything, she did the opposite.
I thought Kristen was an interesting character in itself and I think she had coped very well if they had allowed her to say fuck you to John and moved on to something else. So if John and Marlena did not need a third party in their story why was Kristen in this story ??? I stand by it was pimping of John and Marlena,. And I was glad that Kristen was John who ?? when Tomsell wrote for her, I mean, she was busy with his son instead. lol ;)
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You have a point :) I'm sure Ericole is in the cards so to speak, but I really hope it's a good story this time. Interesting, exciting, compelling, etc. No corny shit and dull crap thanks.
I'm sorry..but it makes me laugh that somehow pre-psycho Kristen fit the sex, interesting, compelling thing for you but Eric didn't lol. The devout Catholic social worker in flower hats and ankle length dresses.
For the simple reason she shine more on stage. IMO
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LOL! Hurricane Nicole is a real hurricane out in the sea that might make a landing to the USA. :biggrin: The poster use the real weather and compared that to Ari Zucker just to make everyone laugh.
I also wonder why the hurricane was named Nicole. Maybe the weather people play in the sands without sticking their heads in it or it was simply time for the name to be used. Nonetheless, it's the perfect storm!
It's a crazy coincidence, the National Hurricane Center has a set of names they recycle every 6 years (unless a hurricane is retired like Katrina). After Matthew, Nicole was next on the list, it just happened to coincide with this story, :o
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There's a difference in a rooting couple and pimping. They would have prevailed whether she went bad or not. That was set up long before she went psycho. If she hadn't gone bad, she would be a blip on Days' radar. Rooting couples can be pimped, but I don't think she pimped them. She didn't need to. If anything, she did the opposite.
I thought Kristen was an interesting character in itself and I think she had coped very well if they had allowed her to say fuck you to John and moved on to something else. So if John and Marlena did not need a third party in their story why was Kristen in this story ??? I stand by it was pimping of John and Marlena,. And I was glad that Kristen was John who ?? when Tomsell wrote for her, I mean, she was busy with his son instead. lol ;)
I think what Lysie means to say and correct me if I'm wrong Lysie. Is that John and Marlena were an established popular couple and Kristen didn't pimp them or prop them up like you're saying. To pimp means to elevate or make them greater like they today by force feeding us Rope. That's what I think of of when someone uses the word pimp. If not for Kristen they would have gotten together some other way. They didn't need her to make their story work. She was used as an obstacle and her descent to darkness is what made her popular or she'd just be a blip in DAYS history.
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There's a difference in a rooting couple and pimping. They would have prevailed whether she went bad or not. That was set up long before she went psycho. If she hadn't gone bad, she would be a blip on Days' radar. Rooting couples can be pimped, but I don't think she pimped them. She didn't need to. If anything, she did the opposite.
I thought Kristen was an interesting character in itself and I think she had coped very well if they had allowed her to say fuck you to John and moved on to something else. So if John and Marlena did not need a third party in their story why was Kristen in this story ??? I stand by it was pimping of John and Marlena,. And I was glad that Kristen was John who ?? when Tomsell wrote for her, I mean, she was busy with his son instead. lol ;)
I mean...it's a story. Just because there is a third party doesn't mean it was needed. And I didn't say that anyway. That's not what that sentence meant. Stories have other people in them. That's how television shows work. She also wasn't "John who" when she came back. She was busy with his son getting revenge on him.

You can stand by it all you want to. Like I said, I think we have different definitions of that word.
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I thought Kristen was an interesting character in itself and I think she had coped very well if they had allowed her to say fuck you to John and moved on to something else. So if John and Marlena did not need a third party in their story why was Kristen in this story ??? I stand by it was pimping of John and Marlena,. And I was glad that Kristen was John who ?? when Tomsell wrote for her, I mean, she was busy with his son instead. lol ;)
I think what Lysie means to say and correct me if I'm wrong Lysie. Is that John and Marlena were an established popular couple and Kristen didn't pimp them or prop them up like you're saying. To pimp means to elevate or make them greater like they today by force feeding us Rope. That's what I think of of when someone uses the word pimp. If not for Kristen they would have gotten together some other way. They didn't need her to make their story work. She was used as an obstacle and her descent to darkness is what made her popular or she'd just be a blip in DAYS history.
I understood but I disagree with it. :) Sure John and Marlena were endgame and yada yada, but that does not mean I liked that Kristen went psycho I mean a young, beautiful woman went crazy for John ??? Nah not credible in my book. And I do not like stories where women become a mess for a man. I like stories with strong women who go their own way.
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I think what Lysie means to say and correct me if I'm wrong Lysie. Is that John and Marlena were an established popular couple and Kristen didn't pimp them or prop them up like you're saying. To pimp means to elevate or make them greater like they today by force feeding us Rope. That's what I think of of when someone uses the word pimp. If not for Kristen they would have gotten together some other way. They didn't need her to make their story work. She was used as an obstacle and her descent to darkness is what made her popular or she'd just be a blip in DAYS history.
I understood but I disagree with it. :) Sure John and Marlena were endgame and yada yada, but that does not mean I liked that Kristen went psycho I mean a young, beautiful woman went crazy for John ??? Nah not credible in my book. And I do not like stories where women become a mess for a man. I like stories with strong women who go their own way.
If that's what you've come away with from my posts, I'm not really sure what to tell you.
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Oct 13 2016, 02:15 PM
Mods, if you want to delete this, I understand. This will be my last post on the subject. From one of my favorite speakers, Jen Hatmaker, on FB:

Good morning. A few words about Trump's disqualifying and disgraceful comments leaked last week:

First off, for every woman that has been "grabbed by the p*ssy" or "kissed without asking" or "moved on like a b*tch" by a man who held power over you, a man that saw you as an object for his own lust and ego, I could not be more sorry and furious that we now have a presidential candidate not only degrading women but normalizing sexual assault. What a travesty. What a tragedy. What a national disgrace.

Second, I am furious that Trump dared to categorize this as "locker room talk." The hell it is. My husband and sons don't talk like this. My dad doesn't talk like this. My father-in-law doesn't talk like this. My friends don't talk like this. This wasn't "guy banter" - this was a description of terrifying, habitual, sexually abusive behavior toward women.

"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

No, Donald Trump. You cannot do anything. You cannot kiss, grope, grab, and move on women without their permission. You cannot shrug off this behavior as locker room antics. This is not funny, cute, harmless, or normal. You are building and sustaining the sexual abuse culture in which millions of women have been victimized then laughed off.

God forbid you have any influence over my sons and daughters, and everyone's sons and daughters.

Women, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not just a sexual object. You are not subject to men in power simply because they want something. You are not just body parts to be leered at or touched or taken.

Men, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not depraved, sexual deviants caught up in disgraceful talk. You are good men, good husbands and sons and fathers. You are not a part of the lowest common denominator.

Good voters, I want to remind you that you are not stuck or without options on election day. There are four names on the presidential ballot. You can vote your conscience.
I'm good with posts that relate to AZ/Days relation to his inappropriate remarks, but this has nothing to do with AZ or Days :shrug:
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I think what Lysie means to say and correct me if I'm wrong Lysie. Is that John and Marlena were an established popular couple and Kristen didn't pimp them or prop them up like you're saying. To pimp means to elevate or make them greater like they today by force feeding us Rope. That's what I think of of when someone uses the word pimp. If not for Kristen they would have gotten together some other way. They didn't need her to make their story work. She was used as an obstacle and her descent to darkness is what made her popular or she'd just be a blip in DAYS history.
I understood but I disagree with it. :) Sure John and Marlena were endgame and yada yada, but that does not mean I liked that Kristen went psycho I mean a young, beautiful woman went crazy for John ??? Nah not credible in my book. And I do not like stories where women become a mess for a man. I like stories with strong women who go their own way.
Also John in the 90's was like Brady's age now. He wasn't an old man. So it's not like Kristen was 19 with a 60 year old. It's believeable she was in love with him
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Oct 13 2016, 02:15 PM
Mods, if you want to delete this, I understand. This will be my last post on the subject. From one of my favorite speakers, Jen Hatmaker, on FB:

Good morning. A few words about Trump's disqualifying and disgraceful comments leaked last week:

First off, for every woman that has been "grabbed by the p*ssy" or "kissed without asking" or "moved on like a b*tch" by a man who held power over you, a man that saw you as an object for his own lust and ego, I could not be more sorry and furious that we now have a presidential candidate not only degrading women but normalizing sexual assault. What a travesty. What a tragedy. What a national disgrace.

Second, I am furious that Trump dared to categorize this as "locker room talk." The hell it is. My husband and sons don't talk like this. My dad doesn't talk like this. My father-in-law doesn't talk like this. My friends don't talk like this. This wasn't "guy banter" - this was a description of terrifying, habitual, sexually abusive behavior toward women.

"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

No, Donald Trump. You cannot do anything. You cannot kiss, grope, grab, and move on women without their permission. You cannot shrug off this behavior as locker room antics. This is not funny, cute, harmless, or normal. You are building and sustaining the sexual abuse culture in which millions of women have been victimized then laughed off.

God forbid you have any influence over my sons and daughters, and everyone's sons and daughters.

Women, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not just a sexual object. You are not subject to men in power simply because they want something. You are not just body parts to be leered at or touched or taken.

Men, don't believe it. Don't listen. You are not depraved, sexual deviants caught up in disgraceful talk. You are good men, good husbands and sons and fathers. You are not a part of the lowest common denominator.

Good voters, I want to remind you that you are not stuck or without options on election day. There are four names on the presidential ballot. You can vote your conscience.
I'm good with posts that relate to AZ/Days relation to his inappropriate remarks, but this has nothing to do with AZ or Days :shrug:
Just yell KRISTEN. That's what I've been doing.
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I understood but I disagree with it. :) Sure John and Marlena were endgame and yada yada, but that does not mean I liked that Kristen went psycho I mean a young, beautiful woman went crazy for John ??? Nah not credible in my book. And I do not like stories where women become a mess for a man. I like stories with strong women who go their own way.
Also John in the 90's was like Brady's age now. He wasn't an old man. So it's not like Kristen was 19 with a 60 year old. It's believeable she was in love with him
He's only 6 years older than her, lol. It shows now, but it hasn't shown long. She wasn't baby faced.
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Also John in the 90's was like Brady's age now. He wasn't an old man. So it's not like Kristen was 19 with a 60 year old. It's believeable she was in love with him
He's only 6 years older than her, lol. It shows now, but it hasn't shown long. She wasn't baby faced.
She looks better now than 20 years ago lol.

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