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Topic Started: Oct 10 2016, 01:05 AM (36,060 Views)
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Oct 15 2016, 08:33 AM
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LOL. Chloe will become my favorite for the month if she actually raises that issue with Brady while getting back with him. Two months if she brings it all the way back to their marriage, in which her being busy with career and friends who weren't his friends prompted him to start snorting coke and his grandfather to kidnap him and accuse Chloe of murder. Three months if she says "I mean, you were so desperate not to be alone that you got with the woman who nearly murdered your father when he wouldn't be financially extorted over her quickie marriage to you. How do I know you really want me, personally?"

That won't happen, but I'm still pleased, not least because they'll both ship Ericole over NicoDeimos.
:hail: :hail: I will love the show if thus happens and I will absolutely love Chloe if they bring it all the way back to the things you just said; the failing of their marriage because of her friends and his coke addiction, him compensating his unwillingness to be alone by hooking up with the wrong women; Kristen, Theresa.... And I will applaud DAYS if they remember Brady and Chloe were once "meant for each other" and married! I've been wanting Chloe to "save" Brady from himself ever since the end of 2014 when he finally told both Kristen and Theresa where to stick iT!!! It should've been Chloe, not Melanie that he should've been with in 2015!!
Jeez, I blocked out forgot about Melanie for a minute there. That's even worse in a way-- Theresa ran off the woman Brady wanted, so he said "okay, guess I'll be with you then, better than being alone."

Was that supposed to be the original trigger for the drug addiction, too? When we've seen him relapse onscreen, it's generally been over the disastrous end of a romantic relationship. But he was married to a woman who loved him when it happened for the first time offscreen. She wasn't spending much time with him and he didn't know anyone else, so when he got lonely that's what he did rather than getting a job or a hobby or suggesting they relocate? I'd really prefer that Brady and Chloe rehash that a bit before falling into a revived relationship, especially since Chloe's trying to revive her career. It's more than fair for her to ask you couldn't hang with it the last time you weren't the only thing in my universe-- can you do it now?

But that would be actual character development rather than just shoving Brady at the nearest woman in the vicinity like "look, doesn't Eric Martsolf have very blue eyes and very broad shoulders?" which seems to be the show's usual strategy.
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Ugh, poor Ari.
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Yes he wasn't open about his true feelings but then again so was Bo regarding Billie (blame JER for his dumbass writing) or even Austin who never put his foot down and said I'm staying with Carrie!! Sami you just sit down, shut up and deal with it!!

The thing is that unlike my girl Lisa Rinna's Billie or even Rebecca Morrison, they had enough dignity and self-respect to say "Hey John, I found this letter amongst your things, it's addressed to Marlena... you still love her, blah blah blah... I know things changed between us because I didn't you and screamed that you were capable of cold-blooded murder in front of the entire courtroom. And I don't want to be with someone who has another woman in his heart. it's not right for me or for you. We both deserve better than that. I'm letting you go..." Instead she decided to look away as Stefano kidnapped Marlena and endangered her own baby by chasing John to the undergrounds in Paris where Stefano was holding Marlena hostage (and she knew where Stefano was holding Marlena and purposely kept it to herself BTW) she endangered her own life and the life of the baby she so desperately wanted and ended up loosing him. and her sanity in the process. And if that wasn't enough she drugs John and has sex with him while he's moaning Marlena's name, AND DOES SHE STOP!!? :blulaugh: :blulaugh: :facepalm: No... she continues and keeps having sex with him. She was reaching Ben Weston standards before Ben Weston thing.

John can be accused of leading her on, but in his defense, he was trying to move on with a girl he once loved, and was carrying his child. It's not like he and Doc were carrying on an affair behind her back. Blaming John and Marlena for Kristen's descent to madness is like blaming Chad and Abby for Ben being a psycho (And Chad and Abby DID sleep around behind Ben's back!!).

She didn't change in 2012/13!!? she probably would have done the same things to Brady if he had rediscovered his feelings for Chloe or Nicole. She would have played her games to keep them apart. It was still all about revenge on John and Marlena, that never change. She just chose a different approach than being an interloper in their relationship.

Kristen was a multilayered character in the 90s with numerous connections, her family; Peter, Stefano, Tony, had friends in Jennifer and Billie, had a job and aspirations..etc she was a real person before she became mad. Did she do anything in 2012-2015 beside scheme? she was one-note and had it not been for her fall to villainy you would not be her fan today.
I don't agree that Kristen was one-note at all. When they brought her back summer of 2014, you might be able to make that argument, but not the original return. She honestly fell for Brady. Whether that relationship was right or wrong is beside the point because it was shown that she genuinely fell in love with him. It may have been a twisted, Kristen kind of love, but it was real. I liked Bristen despite myself. She wanted revenge on Marlena, yes, but at some point she just wanted Brady and would have let it go. Without Kristen that period wouldn't have been nearly as much fun.
I think she was even less one-note during her return stint in the summer of 2014. She was actually being productive, collecting evidence against Theresa (taping her conversations with Anne and Eve) to prove to dumbass Brady that, yes, Theresa tried to kill his father. Even after Kristen got the proof, dumbass Brady was like "no, it's a fake!" Then he was oh so upset that she ended up in Dan's bed. Not that I liked Dan, but still, Brady had no room to talk. :sadwalk:

Also, Kristen ultimately put aside her hatred of John to save his life with that drug. Not that Brady was grateful or anything. :rolleyes:

The only time she was truly one-note during TomSell, IMO, was her very last stint in the castle when she was holed with ChristoTate. BUT, I despised the "Scooby Gang" of Melanie/Theresa thinking they were bad asses, that I rooted for Kristen to keep ChristoTate and would have celebrated their murders. I despise those 2 chicks.
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Oct 15 2016, 12:17 PM
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I don't agree that Kristen was one-note at all. When they brought her back summer of 2014, you might be able to make that argument, but not the original return. She honestly fell for Brady. Whether that relationship was right or wrong is beside the point because it was shown that she genuinely fell in love with him. It may have been a twisted, Kristen kind of love, but it was real. I liked Bristen despite myself. She wanted revenge on Marlena, yes, but at some point she just wanted Brady and would have let it go. Without Kristen that period wouldn't have been nearly as much fun.
I think she was even less one-note during her return stint in the summer of 2014. She was actually being productive, collecting evidence against Theresa (taping her conversations with Anne and Eve) to prove to dumbass Brady that, yes, Theresa tried to kill his father. Even after Kristen got the proof, dumbass Brady was like "no, it's a fake!" Then he was oh so upset that she ended up in Dan's bed. Not that I liked Dan, but still, Brady had no room to talk. :sadwalk:

Also, Kristen ultimately put aside her hatred of John to save his life with that drug. Not that Brady was grateful or anything. :rolleyes:

The only time she was truly one-note during TomSell, IMO, was her very last stint in the castle when she was holed with ChristoTate. BUT, I despised the "Scooby Gang" of Melanie/Theresa thinking they were bad asses, that I rooted for Kristen to keep ChristoTate and would have celebrated their murders. I despise those 2 chicks.
Your description of why she wasn't one more is part of my description of why she was one note lol. Doing stuff and being productive doesn't really have anything to do with it, imo.
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I don't agree that Kristen was one-note at all. When they brought her back summer of 2014, you might be able to make that argument, but not the original return. She honestly fell for Brady. Whether that relationship was right or wrong is beside the point because it was shown that she genuinely fell in love with him. It may have been a twisted, Kristen kind of love, but it was real. I liked Bristen despite myself. She wanted revenge on Marlena, yes, but at some point she just wanted Brady and would have let it go. Without Kristen that period wouldn't have been nearly as much fun.
I think she was even less one-note during her return stint in the summer of 2014. She was actually being productive, collecting evidence against Theresa (taping her conversations with Anne and Eve) to prove to dumbass Brady that, yes, Theresa tried to kill his father. Even after Kristen got the proof, dumbass Brady was like "no, it's a fake!" Then he was oh so upset that she ended up in Dan's bed. Not that I liked Dan, but still, Brady had no room to talk. :sadwalk:

Also, Kristen ultimately put aside her hatred of John to save his life with that drug. Not that Brady was grateful or anything. :rolleyes:

The only time she was truly one-note during TomSell, IMO, was her very last stint in the castle when she was holed with ChristoTate. BUT, I despised the "Scooby Gang" of Melanie/Theresa thinking they were bad asses, that I rooted for Kristen to keep ChristoTate and would have celebrated their murders. I despise those 2 chicks.
While I tend to agree that Kristen wasn't one-note during her 2012-2014 return, she didn't save John's life out of some noble purpose. She forced Eric to refuse to testify against her in exchange for saving John.
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Oct 15 2016, 11:31 AM
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I think she was even less one-note during her return stint in the summer of 2014. She was actually being productive, collecting evidence against Theresa (taping her conversations with Anne and Eve) to prove to dumbass Brady that, yes, Theresa tried to kill his father. Even after Kristen got the proof, dumbass Brady was like "no, it's a fake!" Then he was oh so upset that she ended up in Dan's bed. Not that I liked Dan, but still, Brady had no room to talk. :sadwalk:

Also, Kristen ultimately put aside her hatred of John to save his life with that drug. Not that Brady was grateful or anything. :rolleyes:

The only time she was truly one-note during TomSell, IMO, was her very last stint in the castle when she was holed with ChristoTate. BUT, I despised the "Scooby Gang" of Melanie/Theresa thinking they were bad asses, that I rooted for Kristen to keep ChristoTate and would have celebrated their murders. I despise those 2 chicks.
While I tend to agree that Kristen wasn't one-note during her 2012-2014 return, she didn't save John's life out of some noble purpose. She forced Eric to refuse to testify against her in exchange for saving John.
Right, but a completely one-note Kristen would have been happy to let John die, and would roll on his grave.
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While I tend to agree that Kristen wasn't one-note during her 2012-2014 return, she didn't save John's life out of some noble purpose. She forced Eric to refuse to testify against her in exchange for saving John.
Right, but a completely one-note Kristen would have been happy to let John die, and would roll on his grave.
Maybe, but I think self-preservation had to play a role. Although she did at least feel bad about what she did to Eric, which suggests to me she wasn't one-note. I mean she still DID it and it was horrible, but she did feel bad. I know I'm going to get hit with, "So does that excuse her actions" from someone so NO that is not what I'm saying. I'm just saying she felt bad. It was still inexcusable. But in terms of her character being only about vengeance I think she had some conflict.
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Right, but a completely one-note Kristen would have been happy to let John die, and would roll on his grave.
Maybe, but I think self-preservation had to play a role. Although she did at least feel bad about what she did to Eric, which suggests to me she wasn't one-note. I mean she still DID it and it was horrible, but she did feel bad. I know I'm going to get hit with, "So does that excuse her actions" from someone so NO that is not what I'm saying. I'm just saying she felt bad. It was still inexcusable. But in terms of her character being only about vengeance I think she had some conflict.
She's basically like Rumplestitskin with the Dark One magic/ dagger... she's addicted and can't give it up.

Let's not forget that she was also perfectly willing to let Brady die in Italy, she was willing to allow Curtis/or whatever his name is that was dating Theresa at the time shot and kill Brady. so her so called "love" is basically a bunch of baloney!!.
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Oct 15 2016, 01:55 PM
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I like the picture but Katerina :rolleyes: is not a DiMera!!

Unless they are foreshadowing a Kate/Andre wedding!! :OhMy:
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I like the picture but Katerina :rolleyes: is not a DiMera!!

Unless they are foreshadowing a Kate/Andre wedding!! :OhMy:
She was their stepmom for a while when she was married to Stefano. She was a Dimera. :ermm: :shrug:
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I don't agree that Kristen was one-note at all. When they brought her back summer of 2014, you might be able to make that argument, but not the original return. She honestly fell for Brady. Whether that relationship was right or wrong is beside the point because it was shown that she genuinely fell in love with him. It may have been a twisted, Kristen kind of love, but it was real. I liked Bristen despite myself. She wanted revenge on Marlena, yes, but at some point she just wanted Brady and would have let it go. Without Kristen that period wouldn't have been nearly as much fun.
I think she was even less one-note during her return stint in the summer of 2014. She was actually being productive, collecting evidence against Theresa (taping her conversations with Anne and Eve) to prove to dumbass Brady that, yes, Theresa tried to kill his father. Even after Kristen got the proof, dumbass Brady was like "no, it's a fake!" Then he was oh so upset that she ended up in Dan's bed. Not that I liked Dan, but still, Brady had no room to talk. :sadwalk:

Also, Kristen ultimately put aside her hatred of John to save his life with that drug. Not that Brady was grateful or anything. :rolleyes:

The only time she was truly one-note during TomSell, IMO, was her very last stint in the castle when she was holed with ChristoTate. BUT, I despised the "Scooby Gang" of Melanie/Theresa thinking they were bad asses, that I rooted for Kristen to keep ChristoTate and would have celebrated their murders. I despise those 2 chicks.
She didn't save John out of the kindness of her heart.
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But that's all moot.. John really wasn't obsessed with Kristen at all, he was making it with Tori on the side.

There's that too. What a slap in the face to Marlena and Kristen. While they were busy lusting after his frocks, he was making time with another woman. :blulaugh:
Eh, Marlena was trying to save her marriage and family at that time, so... Yeah, that was just Kristen. :D
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I think she was even less one-note during her return stint in the summer of 2014. She was actually being productive, collecting evidence against Theresa (taping her conversations with Anne and Eve) to prove to dumbass Brady that, yes, Theresa tried to kill his father. Even after Kristen got the proof, dumbass Brady was like "no, it's a fake!" Then he was oh so upset that she ended up in Dan's bed. Not that I liked Dan, but still, Brady had no room to talk. :sadwalk:

Also, Kristen ultimately put aside her hatred of John to save his life with that drug. Not that Brady was grateful or anything. :rolleyes:

The only time she was truly one-note during TomSell, IMO, was her very last stint in the castle when she was holed with ChristoTate. BUT, I despised the "Scooby Gang" of Melanie/Theresa thinking they were bad asses, that I rooted for Kristen to keep ChristoTate and would have celebrated their murders. I despise those 2 chicks.
She didn't save John out of the kindness of her heart.
Exactly if she truly loved Brady and wanted to leave her past behind her she would have given them the drug to save John for Brady's sake and would've taken the consequences for her actions and served her time or whatever and hoped she could be forgiven once she was released and the dust was settled. She's crazy-town, always has been always will be!! I do love ED BTW and I love Kristen Blake DiMera much more than I ever cared for Ashely Abbott. I'd take her back if they had her focused on the DiMera family with Andre, and Chad but keep her away from the Black family, she and Marlena can still hate each other but no more schemes and over the top villainies against their family cause it's grown tiresome. As long as she stays away from John, Marlena, Brady... etc. I'm OK.
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But that's all moot.. John really wasn't obsessed with Kristen at all, he was making it with Tori on the side.

There's that too. What a slap in the face to Marlena and Kristen. While they were busy lusting after his frocks, he was making time with another woman. :blulaugh:
Eh, Marlena was trying to save her marriage and family at that time, so... Yeah, that was just Kristen. :D
Exactly J/M weren't even together, she was begging Roman to stay and then went to Colorado with Belle for a little while.

John was chasing after Kristen, so it was a slap across her face ;)
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Oct 15 2016, 05:56 AM
That makes sense. And he knew he loved Marlena more than anyone else when he was writing the letter.
What he had to do, when he realized that, was to walk away from Kristen or at least be open to her about his feelings for Marlena, then they both should have decided wheteher they want to continue or not. Him not being open to Kristen about that was not fair to Kristen.
That's the only thing he is responsible for. It wasn't intentional but yes, it happened.
To be fair to John, he was a moron. He didn't actually want to get back with Kristen then, he felt betrayed and oh, he wanted to be with Marlena. Marlena pretty much told him to (because Kristen begged her to, claiming John felt guilty in regards to her and stuff). John gave Kristen a chance because Marlena told him he should, and even then, they all moved into the mansion with John very not-really-committed to Kristen because of Stefano. Which was stupid. But then, John did a lot of stupid stuff at that time. If he had just said "I love Marlena" at the beginning, none of it would have happened. Mor-on.
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Oct 15 2016, 05:56 AM
That makes sense. And he knew he loved Marlena more than anyone else when he was writing the letter.
What he had to do, when he realized that, was to walk away from Kristen or at least be open to her about his feelings for Marlena, then they both should have decided wheteher they want to continue or not. Him not being open to Kristen about that was not fair to Kristen.
That's the only thing he is responsible for. It wasn't intentional but yes, it happened.
To be fair to John, he was a moron. He didn't actually want to get back with Kristen then, he felt betrayed and oh, he wanted to be with Marlena. Marlena pretty much told him to (because Kristen begged her to, claiming John felt guilty in regards to her and stuff). John gave Kristen a chance because Marlena told him he should, and even then, they all moved into the mansion with John very not-really-committed to Kristen because of Stefano. Which was stupid. But then, John did a lot of stupid stuff at that time. If he had just said "I love Marlena" at the beginning, none of it would have happened. Mor-on.
To be fair they were all morons!! John, Bo, Austin, Jack (fake Jack), Lucas... etc it was a very long list of dumb people. I blame JER, and if you don't believe me just watch Passions, it's the definition of stupidity, from the writing, to the characters, to the plot (snail paced plot) to the kindergarten dialogue. That show was beyond stupid OMG!!! :facepalm:
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