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Topic Started: Oct 10 2016, 01:05 AM (36,078 Views)
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PhoenixRising05
Oct 11 2016, 03:14 PM
thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 01:40 PM
lysie
Oct 11 2016, 01:12 PM
I'm still not sure who that was tomsell wrote for. She wasn't anything like Kristen, and she lost every layer she ever had. The story was structured fine but the character wasn't done any favors imo.
I liked that new character better than the old one, though :shrug: .
Honestly, same here.

While I agree that they wrecked J&M and there was alot about that story that crapped all over history, I felt like Tomsell actually made Kristen a sustainable character. I had always thought of her as a limited character if she ever came back. What they did with her made her into a character I felt had far more possibilities. I had to look past alot in the story but I was willing to because the story was structured well and was entertaining. So much of 2013/early 2014 was. You had actual stories that had long-term direction and each story flowed into the next seamlessly. And there felt like there were stakes and urgency. And then it all went down the toilet in 2014.
Oh I thought they managed to make her even less sustainable. I think the story worked okay until it fell apart but even beyond what they did to her (and completely forgetting j&m) I think they made everyone else in town look stupid for her. The story worked better than the characters...but that's also if you leave out the first half which was pretty dull overall imo.
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Bellarke <3

Hugo
Oct 11 2016, 03:21 PM
thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 01:59 PM
Casey is adorable. :wub2:

I like JJ but I want love him and I can't really get there. The whole Eve/Paige fiasco didn't do the character any favor but I thought he was more compelling back then than he is now. It's weird because I was on board with him dating Gabi and becoming a cop. Something is not working and I hope it can be fixed.
JJ began to be boring when he became a Dan follower. That hurt him. They need to give him back some edge.
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ICan'tWithTrump


Jen Lilley's exit is permemant, right??
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Deverauxfan
Oct 10 2016, 05:49 PM
[twitter=nbcdays/status/785601274016301056]
[twitter=Lola617/status/784506484306640896]
:wub: :wub: I absolutely love everything about this scene!! Gives me chills every single time I watch it. And I sometimes laugh because I remember Deidre and Drake's interview on soap talk for the 40th anniversary where they laughed and explained he was really pulling her hair during the hug scene and she said "stop it! you're pulling my hair out" lol :lol:
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Quan loves the 90's DOOL and Kristen, so I think he would do a good arc with her. Hope it happens.
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ShaneDOOLFan
Oct 11 2016, 04:20 PM
Quan loves the 90's DOOL and Kristen, so I think he would do a good arc with her. Hope it happens.
Me too. And keep JL gone.
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ShaneDOOLFan
Oct 11 2016, 04:20 PM
Quan loves the 90's DOOL and Kristen, so I think he would do a good arc with her. Hope it happens.
He and Dena would have to write with far more urgency than we are seeing onscreen now for it to work The current story with the prisoners isn't bad but it is lacking in terms of punch.

And my feeling is that a Kristen story until this regime would feel like more of a Dena story than a Quan story. So far, I sense far more Dena in the stories whereas I see more of Quan in scripts but that could change over time. It tends to when Dena has a co-HW :blulaugh: .
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

I'd take Kristen back if it means she's the new head of the DiMera family. Plus it's be interesting seeing her interact with Andre considering she thought he was Tony back in the 90s.
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Bellarke <3

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Hugo
Oct 11 2016, 03:21 PM
I like JJ but I want love him and I can't really get there. The whole Eve/Paige fiasco didn't do the character any favor but I thought he was more compelling back then than he is now. It's weird because I was on board with him dating Gabi and becoming a cop. Something is not working and I hope it can be fixed.
He's boring as a good guy, and Casey is being wasted. As bad as Jeve was, I liked that JJ was screwing up, I liked his passion.

Now he's dull, and when he's looking down on Chad for being a Dimera, he's hypocritical. Jabi should be more interesting, played by 2 hot people, but lack of story aside, they fall flat for me. JJ needs a bad girl, imo.
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Darn, GG is still there:(
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Hugo
Oct 11 2016, 03:21 PM
thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 01:59 PM
Casey is adorable. :wub2:

I like JJ but I want love him and I can't really get there. The whole Eve/Paige fiasco didn't do the character any favor but I thought he was more compelling back then than he is now. It's weird because I was on board with him dating Gabi and becoming a cop. Something is not working and I hope it can be fixed.
IMO it's that he has nothing going on inside. I didn't always find every single problem they ever wrote for JJ totally compelling, sometimes it seemed like his self-loathing was overdone, but it was something. Now he just doesn't have as much internal conflict or development.

Also it doesn't help that we never get to see any kind of progression arc for him as a cop. We don't see a lot of rookie mistakes, being chewed out for said mistakes, learning from said mistakes, etc. I don't think it's as bad as Theresa one day becoming a super talented fashion designer, since nobody is saying JJ is the biggest prodigy the SPD has ever seen, but it still suffers similarly from there being no sense of achievement. I would have rather they played it like him making a somewhat impetuous career choice because helping Roman made him feel like he was atoning, but finding that it didn't really fit his personality. I was hoping he could be the rebellious, play-outside-the-lines cop that Roman and Rafe have to constantly keep in check. I don't want him to be as immature as he used to be, but I liked him best when he was trying to outthink Theresa, I wish we could see him more in that mode.

And I agree with KLK that when he looks down on Chad for being a Dimera, it makes JJ look really hypocritical, after how he hated himself and went through that phase of being angry at his dad. It's not that Chad is a pretty princess that nobody can be mean to, it just doesn't fit with JJ. And it makes me irritated because it feels like they just had to make either JJ or Jennifer hate Chad for the sake of Chabby having a Romeo and Juliet dynamic.

The JJabi stuff has been half baked too, so he just hasn't had anything good lately. Some scenes with his family have been nice but those are little things.
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Oct 11 2016, 11:29 AM
DrewHamilton
Oct 11 2016, 10:45 AM
Four years later, and I still can't believe we got a Kristen return. I so wish someone other than TomSell was writing when they finally got her back. I think Hogan would've had a lot of fun with Kristen back in 2007.
It wasn't perfect but I liked what Tomlin and Whitesell did with the character (with some exceptions, eg. some parts of the Eric stuff) It was a great return! (I mean the first one).
They made me fall in love with the character (I wasn't a Kristen fan from the 90s). I'm so very thankful for that. It happens so rarely to me.
If it meant I could get to watch Eileen on Days on a permanent basis again, I'd love to have Tomlin and Whitesell back as HWs.
Different strokes for different folks! I much preferred 90's Kristen to the one that came back under TomSell.
I did enjoy the Bristen pairing, but there was no need to destroy J&M to make it work. On the contrary, J&M
should have been stronger than ever.
My main beef on her return, was that Marlena & Kristen were well-known bitter enemies/rivals and Deidre & Eileen
were always mesmerizing in scenes together, but alas we saw very little of that under TomSell.
Instead, they made Marlena insecure and John a total jerk in order to prop Bristen, when it could have been
done/written so differently, while still enjoying the Bristen pairing.
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ICan'tWithTrump


Y'all, Ari is still trending on Facebook 5 days later.
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DrewHamilton
Oct 11 2016, 10:45 AM
Four years later, and I still can't believe we got a Kristen return. I so wish someone other than TomSell was writing when they finally got her back. I think Hogan would've had a lot of fun with Kristen back in 2007.
I'm glad that Kristen didn't come back in 2007. Hogan would have botched that like he did with all the other DiMeras returning. I didn't like how TomSell reintroduced Kristen to the show. Given how she left in 1998, her return should have been big, like Tony's in 2002. Instead it was very low key, which was typical TomSell. That is probably the only thing they had in common with Hogan, he also wrote returns as none events. But at least TomSell actually seemed to like Kristen and wrote for her. Hogan would have probably just had Eileen play Stefano's mother in flashbacks to show even more how tragic the love saga of Santo and Colleen was :eyeroll:
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Oct 11 2016, 01:13 PM
Thank you! Love this. Mr. moss, you are a cutie.

The writers need to flesh out his character more and he needs more screen time. But...I could be biased there. He is jack's kid after all. That gives them plenty of material to work with right there. As far as Jabi goes, the writers need to treat him as if he is an actual factor in the relationship. And the audience needs to be shown aspects of their relationship instead of reading tweets about it.
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tiff5555


ICan'tWithTrump
Oct 11 2016, 07:32 PM
Y'all, Ari is still trending on Facebook 5 days later.


Yep.........
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Sindacco
Oct 11 2016, 09:14 PM
DrewHamilton
Oct 11 2016, 10:45 AM
Four years later, and I still can't believe we got a Kristen return. I so wish someone other than TomSell was writing when they finally got her back. I think Hogan would've had a lot of fun with Kristen back in 2007.
I'm glad that Kristen didn't come back in 2007. Hogan would have botched that like he did with all the other DiMeras returning. I didn't like how TomSell reintroduced Kristen to the show. Given how she left in 1998, her return should have been big, like Tony's in 2002. Instead it was very low key, which was typical TomSell. That is probably the only thing they had in common with Hogan, he also wrote returns as none events. But at least TomSell actually seemed to like Kristen and wrote for her. Hogan would have probably just had Eileen play Stefano's mother in flashbacks to show even more how tragic the love saga of Santo and Colleen was :eyeroll:


Loved EJAMI but the Santo and Colleen, shouldn't have happened and it made no sense afterwards.....
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HollyGolightly
Oct 11 2016, 07:17 PM
thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 11:29 AM
DrewHamilton
Oct 11 2016, 10:45 AM
Four years later, and I still can't believe we got a Kristen return. I so wish someone other than TomSell was writing when they finally got her back. I think Hogan would've had a lot of fun with Kristen back in 2007.
It wasn't perfect but I liked what Tomlin and Whitesell did with the character (with some exceptions, eg. some parts of the Eric stuff) It was a great return! (I mean the first one).
They made me fall in love with the character (I wasn't a Kristen fan from the 90s). I'm so very thankful for that. It happens so rarely to me.
If it meant I could get to watch Eileen on Days on a permanent basis again, I'd love to have Tomlin and Whitesell back as HWs.
Different strokes for different folks! I much preferred 90's Kristen to the one that came back under TomSell.
I did enjoy the Bristen pairing, but there was no need to destroy J&M to make it work. On the contrary, J&M
should have been stronger than ever.
My main beef on her return, was that Marlena & Kristen were well-known bitter enemies/rivals and Deidre & Eileen
were always mesmerizing in scenes together, but alas we saw very little of that under TomSell.
Instead, they made Marlena insecure and John a total jerk in order to prop Bristen, when it could have been
done/written so differently, while still enjoying the Bristen pairing.
I don't disagree about the destruction of John and Marlena. It wasn't needed.But it doesn't mean I didn't like the character of Kristen more this time around. She became too pathetic for my taste in the 90s (trying to hold onto a man who was clearly in love with someone else is not what makes a character likable to me.)
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thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 11:33 PM
HollyGolightly
Oct 11 2016, 07:17 PM
thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 11:29 AM

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Different strokes for different folks! I much preferred 90's Kristen to the one that came back under TomSell.
I did enjoy the Bristen pairing, but there was no need to destroy J&M to make it work. On the contrary, J&M
should have been stronger than ever.
My main beef on her return, was that Marlena & Kristen were well-known bitter enemies/rivals and Deidre & Eileen
were always mesmerizing in scenes together, but alas we saw very little of that under TomSell.
Instead, they made Marlena insecure and John a total jerk in order to prop Bristen, when it could have been
done/written so differently, while still enjoying the Bristen pairing.
I don't disagree about the destruction of John and Marlena. It wasn't needed.But it doesn't mean I didn't like the character of Kristen more this time around. She became too pathetic for my taste in the 90s (trying to hold onto a man who was clearly in love with someone else is not what makes a character likable to me.)
But that was pretty much a theme during the nineties....Kristin trying to hold onto John, Billie trying to hold onto Bo, Peter trying to hold onto Jen, Stefano trying to hold onto Marlena, Roman tried to hold onto Marlena...they all knew the object of their obsession was in love with someone else but tried everything from pregnancy to kidnapping to emotional blackmail to keep them apart...and to me it made those characters came across as desperate and pathetic
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