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Topic Started: Oct 10 2016, 01:05 AM (36,077 Views)
ICan'tWithTrump


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Oct 11 2016, 11:45 PM
thepadange
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Oct 11 2016, 07:17 PM

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I don't disagree about the destruction of John and Marlena. It wasn't needed.But it doesn't mean I didn't like the character of Kristen more this time around. She became too pathetic for my taste in the 90s (trying to hold onto a man who was clearly in love with someone else is not what makes a character likable to me.)
But that was pretty much a theme during the nineties....Kristin trying to hold onto John, Billie trying to hold onto Bo, Peter trying to hold onto Jen, Stefano trying to hold onto Marlena, Roman tried to hold onto Marlena...they all knew the object of their obsession was in love with someone else but tried everything from pregnancy to kidnapping to emotional blackmail to keep them apart...and to me it made those characters came across as desperate and pathetic
Kristen under TomSell >>> whiny pathetic Kristen of the 1990s. She was a droopy, pathetic mess back then. This time around she got different love interests, new rivalries (while still keeping her old one with Marlena in tact), got to explore her relationship with her family, got to have a sense of humor, and yet still be a crazy mess. She was more layered this time around.

I would trade at least 15 characters on this show just to have Kristen back for 3 measley months. It really pisses me off that HigQuan aren't apparently bringing her back. Well, I blame that on Higley since Quan said he wants to write for her.


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But that was pretty much a theme during the nineties....Kristin trying to hold onto John, Billie trying to hold onto Bo, Peter trying to hold onto Jen, Stefano trying to hold onto Marlena, Roman tried to hold onto Marlena...they all knew the object of their obsession was in love with someone else but tried everything from pregnancy to kidnapping to emotional blackmail to keep them apart...and to me it made those characters came across as desperate and pathetic
Kristen under TomSell >>> whiny pathetic Kristen of the 1990s. She was a droopy, pathetic mess back then. This time around she got different love interests, new rivalries (while still keeping her old one with Marlena in tact), got to explore her relationship with her family, got to have a sense of humor, and yet still be a crazy mess. She was more layered this time around.

I would trade at least 15 characters on this show just to have Kristen back for 3 measley months. It really pisses me off that HigQuan aren't apparently bringing her back. Well, I blame that on Higley since Quan said he wants to write for her.


They probably can't afford her.
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I don't want Kristen back. They would probably have her interact with Brady and I can't stand him. He's an idiot.
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thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 11:33 PM
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Oct 11 2016, 07:17 PM
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Oct 11 2016, 11:29 AM

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Different strokes for different folks! I much preferred 90's Kristen to the one that came back under TomSell.
I did enjoy the Bristen pairing, but there was no need to destroy J&M to make it work. On the contrary, J&M
should have been stronger than ever.
My main beef on her return, was that Marlena & Kristen were well-known bitter enemies/rivals and Deidre & Eileen
were always mesmerizing in scenes together, but alas we saw very little of that under TomSell.
Instead, they made Marlena insecure and John a total jerk in order to prop Bristen, when it could have been
done/written so differently, while still enjoying the Bristen pairing.
I don't disagree about the destruction of John and Marlena. It wasn't needed.But it doesn't mean I didn't like the character of Kristen more this time around. She became too pathetic for my taste in the 90s (trying to hold onto a man who was clearly in love with someone else is not what makes a character likable to me.)
The destruction of John and Marlena and making Nick crazy are probably the only things I didn't like about that period. I wish Tomsell hadn't done those things, but overall I enjoyed the show during that time. Now I don't, but I'm trying. Which goes to show that you can fix relationships and characters, but still have a terrible show. If Tomsell could have done what they did without destroying certain characters that would have been a much better show. But it was better then even with those destructions so I would take that over what we have now in a heartbeat.
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ICan'tWithTrump
Oct 12 2016, 12:09 AM
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Oct 11 2016, 11:45 PM
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Oct 11 2016, 11:33 PM

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But that was pretty much a theme during the nineties....Kristin trying to hold onto John, Billie trying to hold onto Bo, Peter trying to hold onto Jen, Stefano trying to hold onto Marlena, Roman tried to hold onto Marlena...they all knew the object of their obsession was in love with someone else but tried everything from pregnancy to kidnapping to emotional blackmail to keep them apart...and to me it made those characters came across as desperate and pathetic
Kristen under TomSell >>> whiny pathetic Kristen of the 1990s. She was a droopy, pathetic mess back then. This time around she got different love interests, new rivalries (while still keeping her old one with Marlena in tact), got to explore her relationship with her family, got to have a sense of humor, and yet still be a crazy mess. She was more layered this time around.

I would trade at least 15 characters on this show just to have Kristen back for 3 measley months. It really pisses me off that HigQuan aren't apparently bringing her back. Well, I blame that on Higley since Quan said he wants to write for her.


ITs not like she didn't have other relationships in the 90s. My problem with the more recent stuff is that it was all at the expense of what established before. It might have been more interesting for Kristen (I don't think it was. She was way more layered in the 90s when we actually saw her descent into BSC), but it made everyone else who interacted with her look like idiots and sacrificed all of their histories.
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lysie
Oct 12 2016, 07:56 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 12:09 AM
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Oct 11 2016, 11:45 PM

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Kristen under TomSell >>> whiny pathetic Kristen of the 1990s. She was a droopy, pathetic mess back then. This time around she got different love interests, new rivalries (while still keeping her old one with Marlena in tact), got to explore her relationship with her family, got to have a sense of humor, and yet still be a crazy mess. She was more layered this time around.

I would trade at least 15 characters on this show just to have Kristen back for 3 measley months. It really pisses me off that HigQuan aren't apparently bringing her back. Well, I blame that on Higley since Quan said he wants to write for her.


ITs not like she didn't have other relationships in the 90s. My problem with the more recent stuff is that it was all at the expense of what established before. It might have been more interesting for Kristen (I don't think it was. She was way more layered in the 90s when we actually saw her descent into BSC), but it made everyone else who interacted with her look like idiots and sacrificed all of their histories.
The 'pathetic mess' part of Kristen was really the tail end of her 90's run. She was much more intricate/developed the rest of the time. It's pretty insane they were even able to sustain her level of crazy as long as they did once she went downhill. The character she was upon her return wasn't the same one as the 90's and that isn't a compliment. They truly did dumb down the rest of town to attempt to make this version of her sustainable and she still wasn't.
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Lovejm
Oct 12 2016, 08:15 AM
lysie
Oct 12 2016, 07:56 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 12:09 AM

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ITs not like she didn't have other relationships in the 90s. My problem with the more recent stuff is that it was all at the expense of what established before. It might have been more interesting for Kristen (I don't think it was. She was way more layered in the 90s when we actually saw her descent into BSC), but it made everyone else who interacted with her look like idiots and sacrificed all of their histories.
The 'pathetic mess' part of Kristen was really the tail end of her 90's run. She was much more intricate/developed the rest of the time. It's pretty insane they were even able to sustain her level of crazy as long as they did once she went downhill. The character she was upon her return wasn't the same one as the 90's and that isn't a compliment. They truly did dumb down the rest of town to attempt to make this version of her sustainable and she still wasn't.
Don't get me started on what a moron Brady was with her!!! I hated that relationship. It was beyond disgusting!!
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Oct 12 2016, 09:42 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 08:15 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 07:56 AM

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The 'pathetic mess' part of Kristen was really the tail end of her 90's run. She was much more intricate/developed the rest of the time. It's pretty insane they were even able to sustain her level of crazy as long as they did once she went downhill. The character she was upon her return wasn't the same one as the 90's and that isn't a compliment. They truly did dumb down the rest of town to attempt to make this version of her sustainable and she still wasn't.
Don't get me started on what a moron Brady was with her!!! I hated that relationship. It was beyond disgusting!!
He is definitely not less of a moron with Theresa.
At least he had chemistry with Kristen :P and was watchable (enjoyable to me).
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Oct 12 2016, 09:46 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 09:42 AM
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Don't get me started on what a moron Brady was with her!!! I hated that relationship. It was beyond disgusting!!
He is definitely not less of a moron with Theresa.
At least he had chemistry with Kristen :P and was watchable (enjoyable to me).
I remember being really uncomfortable with them going there, but once it was established really liking them. Despite how wrong it was, she was his best pairing. I actually started rooting for her and Brady. It was wrong, but I loved it.
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Oct 12 2016, 09:46 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 09:42 AM
Lovejm
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Don't get me started on what a moron Brady was with her!!! I hated that relationship. It was beyond disgusting!!
He is definitely not less of a moron with Theresa.
At least he had chemistry with Kristen :P and was watchable (enjoyable to me).
It's safe to say he's just dumb most of the time lol
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thepadange
Oct 12 2016, 09:46 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 09:42 AM
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Don't get me started on what a moron Brady was with her!!! I hated that relationship. It was beyond disgusting!!
He is definitely not less of a moron with Theresa.
At least he had chemistry with Kristen :P and was watchable (enjoyable to me).
I did like the chemistry but the fact that she was in her 30s and carrying him around in her lap, being all stepmom like always felt icky!! The woman tried to kill your stepmother and nearly killed your little sister in the process with that penicillin chocolate bar, she raped your brother and dumbo Brady was ready to forgive her until he caught her in bed with Tan.. which I will never understand what that was all about.

I did like Kristen in the 90s and like some of you are saying she wasn't isolated in her obsessive bubble, she did have relationship dynamics with her family; Tony, Stefano, Peter... real friendships with Jennifer and Billie. When Jen and Kristen became friends again in 2012-13 it felt so fake, Jennifer was like "Sure, I've got nothing better to do anyway, I'll be your friend again even though your a total sociopath" and feuds with Marlena and Laura as well as her obsession with getting pregnant and keeping John. Yes she was pathetic, like when she drugged John to sleep with her in Paris and he was calling out for Marlena and she still kept going anyway :lol: :facepalm: But she still had more layers to her character in the 90s. She was a bit one-note in 2012-14, no real emotions. The Kristen I met in the 90s screamed, cried, loved, hated, was passionate and batshit-crazy. She was too stoic and cold when she returned but I guess she had to change since she was older now.

I guess I would have enjoyed the story more if J/M had stuck together and worked together to get Brady away from her. Instead TomSell completely trashed John, trashed his relationship with Marlena and Brady, I even started hating him a little and didn't think they were ever gonna fix it. I still do like Kristen I'd love a return but keep her away from Brady and don't ruin J/M at her expense.

But at least Kristen saved John right!! lol unlike Theresa who tried to kill him TWICE!! I wonder if Brady knew she went into his father's hospital room with a syringe.
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TomSell gave us Nicole's baby dying inside of her and her throwing herself down a flight of stairs and blaming Jennifer for it. They also gave us Dannifer and made Daniel the star of the show. I never want them back.....never.
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Oct 12 2016, 10:08 AM
TomSell gave us Nicole's baby dying inside of her and her throwing herself down a flight of stairs and blaming Jennifer for it. They also gave us Dannifer and made Daniel the star of the show. I never want them back.....never.
They also brought Eric back, started Ericole and likely were going there again with the FOL ;)
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

I hate how they never mentioned the history between EJ, John and Kristen and how she tried to pass him of as hers. EJ had one comment about it and he said something like "Oh you tried to pass of a baby as yours" That baby was YOU ELVIS!! Hello!! It's infuriating how they SORAS and then they don't like to deal with the consequences and act as if it had never happened.
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thepadange
Oct 12 2016, 10:12 AM
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TomSell gave us Nicole's baby dying inside of her and her throwing herself down a flight of stairs and blaming Jennifer for it. They also gave us Dannifer and made Daniel the star of the show. I never want them back.....never.
They also brought Eric back, started Ericole and likely were going there again with the FOL ;)
Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day:

Bringing back Eric
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Oct 12 2016, 10:08 AM
TomSell gave us Nicole's baby dying inside of her and her throwing herself down a flight of stairs and blaming Jennifer for it. They also gave us Dannifer and made Daniel the star of the show. I never want them back.....never.
I don't think Nicole planned the fall down the stairs, it was an accident.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 12 2016, 10:36 AM
I hate how they never mentioned the history between EJ, John and Kristen and how she tried to pass him of as hers. EJ had one comment about it and he said something like "Oh you tried to pass of a baby as yours" That baby was YOU ELVIS!! Hello!! It's infuriating how they SORAS and then they don't like to deal with the consequences and act as if it had never happened.
It's odd. Sometimes they avoid the subject like the example you mentioned. And then other times, they don't when they should. The show has no problem bringing up Sami selling Belle on the black market, even though with Belle's SORASing that would've been impossible. When did Sami do it? When she 5?
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Oct 11 2016, 11:45 PM
thepadange
Oct 11 2016, 11:33 PM
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Oct 11 2016, 07:17 PM

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I don't disagree about the destruction of John and Marlena. It wasn't needed.But it doesn't mean I didn't like the character of Kristen more this time around. She became too pathetic for my taste in the 90s (trying to hold onto a man who was clearly in love with someone else is not what makes a character likable to me.)
But that was pretty much a theme during the nineties....Kristin trying to hold onto John, Billie trying to hold onto Bo, Peter trying to hold onto Jen, Stefano trying to hold onto Marlena, Roman tried to hold onto Marlena...they all knew the object of their obsession was in love with someone else but tried everything from pregnancy to kidnapping to emotional blackmail to keep them apart...and to me it made those characters came across as desperate and pathetic
At least with Kristen in the 90s you got to actually SEE her downward spiral and understand the reasons for it. I thought 90s Kristen was fantastic.
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Oct 12 2016, 10:56 AM
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Oct 12 2016, 10:36 AM
I hate how they never mentioned the history between EJ, John and Kristen and how she tried to pass him of as hers. EJ had one comment about it and he said something like "Oh you tried to pass of a baby as yours" That baby was YOU ELVIS!! Hello!! It's infuriating how they SORAS and then they don't like to deal with the consequences and act as if it had never happened.
It's odd. Sometimes they avoid the subject like the example you mentioned. And then other times, they don't when they should. The show has no problem bringing up Sami selling Belle on the black market, even though with Belle's SORASing that would've been impossible. When did Sami do it? When she 5?
I wish they'd just use it and forget the ages. They're screwed either way. I'd prefer they use the history. What's the point in being a character like Kristen back if you spend the whole time pretending her main story never happened? Playing that dynamic with ej would have made things more interesting, just like playing the creepy ex stepmom dynamic with Brady would have made things more interesting (and layered).

I liked the rectory stuff but didn't like the show as a whole at all when that was airing. That was a actually a time when if I had not been in the middle of having more press access than usual, I'd have been out completely. Even what I liked about ericole wasn't really worth tuning in for. A look here and there? I thought the actual story was awful. It would pick up for me around a sweeps when there would be confrontations, which is why I say the pacing was good, but I thought that especially the early part of 2013 was horrid.
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Oct 11 2016, 04:20 PM
Quan loves the 90's DOOL and Kristen, so I think he would do a good arc with her. Hope it happens.
No thanks. They'd have to bring her back as a foil for Brady and I'm not interested in the least in that. I think she out lived her relevance long ago. Bringing her back and putting her into a different generation was a huge mistake, then bringing her back again and doing that idiotic fetus stealing story made her into an incomprehensible cartoon. I stopped understanding her motivations at all by then. Keep her dead and move on. I don't even know if John knows Marlena threw her out the window. The show didn't even care enough about her to have an actual fallout from that. And I don't consider Stefano kidnapping Marlena to Italy counted considering Marlena had absolutely no reaction to that either.

As for Quan, it's too early for me to decide if he's living up to his "reputation" as a 90's afficianado, but this Orpheus return isn't cutting it for me so far... I have to wonder if he'd do any better with Kristen. I didn't enjoy any of her returns. It had potential but they ruined the character completely.
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