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Friday, October 14th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 13 2016, 06:28 PM (12,221 Views)
Evie


I'm scared. There is literally nothing to look forward to in the next six months. I was looking forward to Carrie and Austin, but I'm positive their return will be as lame as Orpheus's.
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Evie
Oct 15 2016, 05:59 AM
I'm scared. There is literally nothing to look forward to in the next six months. I was looking forward to Carrie and Austin, but I'm positive their return will be as lame as Orpheus's.
Sorry you feel that way. I'm excited to see what happens when Abby and Eric return. And I want Paul and Sonny to be together. Other than that, I'm not sure what I have to look forward to.
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lysie


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Oct 15 2016, 12:12 AM
concerned
Oct 14 2016, 04:18 PM
Luce
Oct 14 2016, 02:48 PM
If they had actually tried to have Freddie and Christopher simulate real mouth-to-mouth, it probably would've been cringe-worthy, let's be real. That probably takes a little bit of time, logistically speaking, to coordinate and try to make look real, and knowing their break-neck shooting schedule, it doesn't surprise me they just avoided it altogether instead of spending time on it.

Also, in response to what Horitafan said, I'm not inferring anything at all from this scene about how they portray PaulSon as a "couple", because 1) they aren't in a relationship and 2) CPR is not sexual. I suppose it's fairly likely we would've seen something overtly romantic after a scene like that from Rope or Dicole, but Rope and Dicole are together.
Don't know if its the same in US but in Australia they don't do mouth to mouth any more just the heart compressions.

last time I researched CPR which was about 1 minute ago they still do mouth to mouth.
You're encouraged not to do it if it's a stranger because the compressions are more important. I think maybe the mouth to mouth part was keeping some people from bothering at all.
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Hugo
Oct 15 2016, 07:29 AM
Evie
Oct 15 2016, 05:59 AM
I'm scared. There is literally nothing to look forward to in the next six months. I was looking forward to Carrie and Austin, but I'm positive their return will be as lame as Orpheus's.
Sorry you feel that way. I'm excited to see what happens when Abby and Eric return. And I want Paul and Sonny to be together. Other than that, I'm not sure what I have to look forward to.
I agree with all these things!!

And I don't mind not seeing an actual mouth to mouth...lets savoir that for a kiss!!

And I knew the elephant in the room is the memory of Will, Paul needs to talk about it...obvio.. Sonny doesn't want to, or can't (and who can blame him)

of course... there's Eric ;) and I wonder if Abby showing up is part of the Halloween party, probably too soon.

I will hold off being excited about Carrie and Austin, they're changing Austin's again, and since I didn't like PM, I will just have to wait.
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lysie
Oct 15 2016, 08:51 AM
sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 12:12 AM
concerned
Oct 14 2016, 04:18 PM

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last time I researched CPR which was about 1 minute ago they still do mouth to mouth.
You're encouraged not to do it if it's a stranger because the compressions are more important. I think maybe the mouth to mouth part was keeping some people from bothering at all.
Yes the compressions are more important. Mouth-to-mouth (or mouth-to-nose) is good if you have another person doing the compressions at the same time. If you're alone, it's better not to do mouth-to-mouth because that makes you stop the compressions for too long.
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lysie
Oct 15 2016, 08:51 AM
sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 12:12 AM
concerned
Oct 14 2016, 04:18 PM

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last time I researched CPR which was about 1 minute ago they still do mouth to mouth.
You're encouraged not to do it if it's a stranger because the compressions are more important. I think maybe the mouth to mouth part was keeping some people from bothering at all.
so notable it's been a few years since my CPR training.

I googled it yesterday, and it included mouth to mouth. A few years ago I noticed a poster in a restaurant and it didn't list mouth to mouth in CPR, but less than a year ago I saw one that did.

That was not my biggest problem with the medical reality of the scene, so there's Paul, hit in the head, and maybe he could have a concussion. But he's got his eyes closed like he's asleep, and last time I heard that is discouraged.
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Hugo
Oct 15 2016, 10:00 AM
lysie
Oct 15 2016, 08:51 AM
sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 12:12 AM

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You're encouraged not to do it if it's a stranger because the compressions are more important. I think maybe the mouth to mouth part was keeping some people from bothering at all.
Yes the compressions are more important. Mouth-to-mouth (or mouth-to-nose) is good if you have another person doing the compressions at the same time. If you're alone, it's better not to do mouth-to-mouth because that makes you stop the compressions for too long.
the last information I saw added more compressions to less breaths, also Sonny said he stopped breathing but if he was administering chest compressions why didn't he say, and his heart stopped beating I think.
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lysie


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Oct 15 2016, 10:09 AM
lysie
Oct 15 2016, 08:51 AM
sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 12:12 AM

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You're encouraged not to do it if it's a stranger because the compressions are more important. I think maybe the mouth to mouth part was keeping some people from bothering at all.
so notable it's been a few years since my CPR training.

I googled it yesterday, and it included mouth to mouth. A few years ago I noticed a poster in a restaurant and it didn't list mouth to mouth in CPR, but less than a year ago I saw one that did.

That was not my biggest problem with the medical reality of the scene, so there's Paul, hit in the head, and maybe he could have a concussion. But he's got his eyes closed like he's asleep, and last time I heard that is discouraged.
Of course, on a soap, I'm not sure there's any point in any CPR at all if there's no mouth to mouth, lol.
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Rosebud
Oct 14 2016, 11:48 PM
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Oct 14 2016, 08:12 PM
Rosebud
Oct 14 2016, 01:33 PM
Omg the boxes! All the boxes! It's a madhouse of boxes!
They were going through alot of supplies. Gauze, tape, bandages, etc.
To use on who? I didn't see lots of bleeding wounded people being brought in, LOL
To no one. Just wasting the airtime on useless teens.
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lysie
Oct 15 2016, 10:29 AM
sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 10:09 AM
lysie
Oct 15 2016, 08:51 AM

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so notable it's been a few years since my CPR training.

I googled it yesterday, and it included mouth to mouth. A few years ago I noticed a poster in a restaurant and it didn't list mouth to mouth in CPR, but less than a year ago I saw one that did.

That was not my biggest problem with the medical reality of the scene, so there's Paul, hit in the head, and maybe he could have a concussion. But he's got his eyes closed like he's asleep, and last time I heard that is discouraged.
Of course, on a soap, I'm not sure there's any point in any CPR at all if there's no mouth to mouth, lol.
I don't get the whole "no mouth to mouth" thing. Isn't the whole point to keep oxygen to the organs and blood flowing?

If they are going to leave one part out then it should be the chest compression's... since you can stop breathing and still have a heart beat!

What bugs me when people do chest compression's on TV shows is that no one ever seems to do the right or same amount of compression's lmao.
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Tammy
Oct 15 2016, 12:36 PM
lysie
Oct 15 2016, 10:29 AM
sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 10:09 AM

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Of course, on a soap, I'm not sure there's any point in any CPR at all if there's no mouth to mouth, lol.
I don't get the whole "no mouth to mouth" thing. Isn't the whole point to keep oxygen to the organs and blood flowing?

If they are going to leave one part out then it should be the chest compression's... since you can stop breathing and still have a heart beat!

What bugs me when people do chest compression's on TV shows is that no one ever seems to do the right or same amount of compression's lmao.
Usually the only time you check for airway is when you first start CPR, especially if there was a sign of blocked airway before the person collapsed. After that it's mostly chest compressions because that keeps the heart going and the blood flowing to the heart/brain.

That's what I remember anyway lol
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lysie


Tammy
Oct 15 2016, 12:36 PM
lysie
Oct 15 2016, 10:29 AM
sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 10:09 AM

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Of course, on a soap, I'm not sure there's any point in any CPR at all if there's no mouth to mouth, lol.
I don't get the whole "no mouth to mouth" thing. Isn't the whole point to keep oxygen to the organs and blood flowing?

If they are going to leave one part out then it should be the chest compression's... since you can stop breathing and still have a heart beat!

What bugs me when people do chest compression's on TV shows is that no one ever seems to do the right or same amount of compression's lmao.
The point is to keep the heart beating. I don't think you're supposed to do CPR if you feel a pulse.
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sonnyfan
Oct 15 2016, 12:12 AM
concerned
Oct 14 2016, 04:18 PM
Luce
Oct 14 2016, 02:48 PM
If they had actually tried to have Freddie and Christopher simulate real mouth-to-mouth, it probably would've been cringe-worthy, let's be real. That probably takes a little bit of time, logistically speaking, to coordinate and try to make look real, and knowing their break-neck shooting schedule, it doesn't surprise me they just avoided it altogether instead of spending time on it.

Also, in response to what Horitafan said, I'm not inferring anything at all from this scene about how they portray PaulSon as a "couple", because 1) they aren't in a relationship and 2) CPR is not sexual. I suppose it's fairly likely we would've seen something overtly romantic after a scene like that from Rope or Dicole, but Rope and Dicole are together.
Don't know if its the same in US but in Australia they don't do mouth to mouth any more just the heart compressions.

last time I researched CPR which was about 1 minute ago they still do mouth to mouth.
The last time I did the course in Australia which was about a year ago.... they didn't.
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lysie


So. This episode was awful. I'm not going to let the writing off the hook at all, but I'm not even sure that's the biggest problem the show has right now. The production values and directing have gone down majorly. What was with that weird little one second shot of Paul and Sonny near the end? I was pretty open to Paulson in general, but Freddie is just so bad, and he's bringing CS down IMO. Why did Kate look perfectly fine? Actually, I'll tell you why. Because she does her own makeup, so no one bothered to bloody her up.

It's just all so stupid. There's so much happening, and yet...nothing is happening. Is any of Kate's family going to know she was "injured?" Will Paul's? Where was Arianna? Why weren't Eduardo and Dario trying to contact any of their family (that's not a real complaint)? Is any of what aired Friday going to matter anymore on Monday? Doubtful. It barely mattered Friday.
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Oct 14 2016, 11:01 PM
BeeBee
Oct 14 2016, 10:41 PM
To day was kind of Tuesday/Wednesday,Thursday episode.Ciiffhanger Fridays is no more.I liked the episode for the most part.The hate Dario had for Eduardo is likely a thing of the past unless Eduardo is stupid enough to tell Dario or Rafe his actions resulted in Orpheus,Clyde,and Xander's escape.I hope he doesn't.I don't want Rafe covering up another crime or Dario hating Eduardo again.
I liked the way the teens were used today.It made sense to have all of them in a central location where they would be safe until Xander and Orpheus have been captured.Also made sense to have them help out answering the phones,keeping medical supplies available for use by hospital staff so that the health care professionals could concentrate on the injure.I actually thought Vivian did okay in her scenes with Kayla and the other teens.
Really? In what world (other than a soap opera) does this make sense? Why aren't these kids at home? Or in the college dorm (shouldn't Salem U be on lock down with bombs going off all over town?) Why would kids who just graduated high school & who aren't hospital employees be answering the phones or handling medical supplies? If this had been a bit more chaotic and seemed more of a disaster or emergency I might have bought it, but since this was sooooo underplayed/underdeveloped...No.

Reminds me of when Claire snuck out & when they brought her home and Mar was all, "we're just glad you're safe" & claire had to scold HERSELF. My grandmother woulda been like, "Girl, you better sit your ass down on that couch! And give me your damn cell phone. You MIGHT get it back when you turn 21. If you live that long." lol
Well,since Salem is fictional and it is a soap opera,in my opinion it made sense in that context to use the teens as they did in this episode.Why would Joey,Ciara,Theo,and Claire be at home while their parents and grandparents are out attempting to capture the escapees especially given that their families have been specifically targeted? Being at the hospital surrounded by medical staff and hospital security would be safer.They are college students so I don't see a big deal with them answering telephones and getting beds and other medical supplies for use by medically trained staff while the medically trained staff are actually helping the injured.
Having the teens do this makes more sense that people returning to Salem after their organs have been havested,a woman having twins who have different fathers,Chad failling to call/text 911 when he became aware that Clyde was in Kate's house,and Xander,Clyde,and Orpheus hanging around Salem after the van crashed.It would have made more sense if they had left Salem and re-established themselves in the crime world then returned to seek revenge.Clyde was still in contact with Jerimiah who provided him with the gun.It is likely Clyde's criminal empire was still intact with Jerimiah running things so why was he hanging around Salem instead of meeting up with Jerimian and his old crew to plan the kidnapping.
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Hugo
Oct 15 2016, 02:39 AM
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Freddie Smith was the worst I have ever seen him...those scenes where Sonny was trying to wake Paul up were SOOO SOO bad...I mean BAAAAD....almost Emmy-revoking bad...I was cringing.

Freddie is usually so chill in his scenes, I thought it was nice seeing him completely freaked out for once and it was appropriate in this situation. The way he acted this scene worked for me, I really liked it.

I don't understand why they didn't do a scene like that and had Sonny find Will's body last year, it would have been so much better than Gabi finding the body and Victor telling Sonny over the phone.
I thought he was just horrible in those scenes...and I am fan of Freddie Smith...but he has proven once again he becomes completely exposed when faced with emotionally charged reaction scenes.

His worst work for me was this scene with paul, the scene where Victor broke the news about Will, the crying at Will's grave...it all felt horribly hammy to me. All of those scenes were emotionally charged reaction scenes.

I don't usually cringe often when watching this show, but those are 3 recent scenes from the last 2 years that have made me cringe and as a result completely derailed me from the emotion of the story. It is not good when the acting distracts the viewer from the story.
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lysie
Oct 16 2016, 09:08 PM
So. This episode was awful. I'm not going to let the writing off the hook at all, but I'm not even sure that's the biggest problem the show has right now. The production values and directing have gone down majorly. What was with that weird little one second shot of Paul and Sonny near the end? I was pretty open to Paulson in general, but Freddie is just so bad, and he's bringing CS down IMO. Why did Kate look perfectly fine? Actually, I'll tell you why. Because she does her own makeup, so no one bothered to bloody her up.

It's just all so stupid. There's so much happening, and yet...nothing is happening. Is any of Kate's family going to know she was "injured?" Will Paul's? Where was Arianna? Why weren't Eduardo and Dario trying to contact any of their family (that's not a real complaint)? Is any of what aired Friday going to matter anymore on Monday? Doubtful. It barely mattered Friday.
This!

It all just rings to damn hollow...I mean "What is the point?". There are no stakes to be seen here in anyway.

Does anyone really care that Dario is injured? I mean he has had no character development, has barely been featured...yet was a big part of Friday's episode...I mean who cares if he is injured...and who cares that Blanca (another nobody) was helping him....it was ridiculous.

FS was terrible, I agree completely and it ruined the Paulson scenes completely.

And the Kate stuff...WHAT WAS THE POINT...WHAT DID THIS ACCOMPLISH? Such a waste of my time.

NO STAKES!
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Boring episode & I have been liking most f the stuff since Dena & Ryan took over.

I am not a Hernandez hater but really who gives a fig about Dario about getting hurt?
And if they want us to care about Edourado & Dario getting closer ,
maybe show Edourdo more often .
I like Blance but she has been missing for months so stupid.

The Kate stuff was stupid since we didn't see anything actually happen. If Kate was supposed to get hurt
couldn't Clyde have tried to shoot her & missed .

I know the budget is tight but if you have explosions go off around town show them.

I like CS & FS but their scenes were lame.

The teens scene, well I like Theo with Abe & occasionally I like Joey & Claire.
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