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DR Retrospective Interview with Suzanne Rogers
Topic Started: Oct 16 2016, 10:07 AM (4,674 Views)
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Kyrai
Oct 17 2016, 11:36 AM
dooldooldool
Oct 16 2016, 03:52 PM
I had no idea "the farm" story was 2.5 years long. That's a long "bubble" to be in, away from the Salem action.

I also had never heard the specifics about her return after she left with MG. My respect for John Clarke soars even more after hearing that he went to the producers, told them about her illness, and was basically the reason she was asked back.

Was also nice to see her complaint about having to cry so much. Just sorta points out that she is doing her job and that the actors are portraying what is written for them.
It was interesting that JC asked the writers to write him out instead of her. For some reason, I thought JC and SR didn't like each other. I like to think of Days actors as family, so it's nice to hear stories like this that support that good feeling.
In the gossip thread last year someone confused John Clarke with John Ingle when they said he (JI) was awful to the women on Days, especially Suzanne Rodgers.
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Thank you JCP.

What about the rumor that Corday went to Frances Reid and told her she was not being fired, but she couldn't tell anyone and he gave her a ruby.
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Yes I think Frances was the only victim that knew prior to being killed off.

I remember the Hayes' saying they were promised they weren't being brought back just to be killed off. Weeks later, Doug was the next victim. I remember SSH being very vocal about how upset they were. Little did they know, the show was actually keeping their promise. By Doug's death, I think it was clear that the story had taken a different path than the original concept and the dead wouldn't stay dead.
Edited by DrewHamilton, Oct 17 2016, 10:21 PM.
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jam6242
Oct 17 2016, 04:16 PM
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Oct 17 2016, 02:12 PM
Mickey first developed amnesia after having a stroke/heart attack after shooting Bill in an attempt to kill him for his presumed affair with Laura. Mickey disappeared from the hospital (with no memory) during Susan Martin's wedding to Greg Peters. He then wandered until he ended up at Maggie's farm in Brookville. It was David Banning (Julie's son) who was believed dead after he drove his car off of a bridge, but ended up staying with the Grant family, which is how he ended up meeting their daughter Valerie. After David finally revealed himself to be alive, Julie was so excited that she tripped coming down the stairs at the Anderson lakehouse (where she was living because she was married to Bob Anderson at the time) & fell & gave birth to Bob's stillborn son.
I'm pretty sure that Mickey had his heart attack (and a stroke in the hospital) in 1973 during an argument with Michael, after Michael found out about Mickey's affair with Linda Patterson Phillips. I remember that Stuart Lee was playing Michael at the time. Mickey did shoot Bill later after finding out about Michael's paternity, and then was committed to the mental institution. That's when Marlena arrived.
oh, that makes sense. Mickey only found out about Mike's paternity after Mike got pinned under a tractor at the farm & needed a blood transfusion & Mickey couldn't because he wasn't the father. And I don't think Mike found out the truth until even later when he went to visit Mickey in the hospital & Mickey blurted out the truth. Moreover, Laura gave birth to Jennifer at a farmhouse she & Bill got stranded in during a snowstorm (in JANUARY, not September, which is when Jennifer's birthday is celebrated now) on the way back from seeing Mickey at the sanitarium.
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I like Maggie...I just hate how she keeps trying to act like Brady's mother. That annoys me.
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Oct 17 2016, 06:29 PM
Kyrai
Oct 17 2016, 11:36 AM
dooldooldool
Oct 16 2016, 03:52 PM
I had no idea "the farm" story was 2.5 years long. That's a long "bubble" to be in, away from the Salem action.

I also had never heard the specifics about her return after she left with MG. My respect for John Clarke soars even more after hearing that he went to the producers, told them about her illness, and was basically the reason she was asked back.

Was also nice to see her complaint about having to cry so much. Just sorta points out that she is doing her job and that the actors are portraying what is written for them.
It was interesting that JC asked the writers to write him out instead of her. For some reason, I thought JC and SR didn't like each other. I like to think of Days actors as family, so it's nice to hear stories like this that support that good feeling.
In the gossip thread last year someone confused John Clarke with John Ingle when they said he (JI) was awful to the women on Days, especially Suzanne Rodgers.
Thanks! That sounds like what I remembered. I'm glad JC was a good guy. I loved him as Mickey.
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Oct 21 2016, 10:56 AM
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Oct 17 2016, 06:29 PM
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In the gossip thread last year someone confused John Clarke with John Ingle when they said he (JI) was awful to the women on Days, especially Suzanne Rodgers.
Thanks! That sounds like what I remembered. I'm glad JC was a good guy. I loved him as Mickey.
No no. It turned out JC was the one who was awful. I was the one who questioned it at the time, and I was the one who was wrong.
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Oct 22 2016, 10:39 AM
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Thanks! That sounds like what I remembered. I'm glad JC was a good guy. I loved him as Mickey.
No no. It turned out JC was the one who was awful. I was the one who questioned it at the time, and I was the one who was wrong.
I had a hard time picturing John Ingle being awful to her.
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Oct 16 2016, 02:14 PM
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Oct 16 2016, 10:07 AM
Now, Maggie does have two daughters. Melissa and Sarah.
They never really explained a lot of that. All of a sudden Melissa went to Nashville and then Sarah wanted to be with her. Then I’d be without anybody again. Instead of having a family unit, they’d always be breaking up that family unit. I don’t know whose idea that was. They were always getting rid of my kids.
I have always wondered why Days did this. Mickey was the only child of Tom and Alice to stay consistently with the show past the 1970s. Addie had died, Bill and Marie would only occasionally pop in but were not permanently there and I doubt we will ever find out what happened to Tommy Horton after 1980. It would only have made sense to maintain Mickey's family unit to represent the Horton presence and stress both his and Maggie's importance on the show for years to come but they never seemed to make the effort. Plus, even when Melissa was on the show, she did not serve the same purpose that Hope and Jennifer did. Is it because Melissa and Sarah were not biological Horton's that the show did not care as much about them?

I think it would have made more sense for the show to try and keep Lisa Trusel around on recurring status after her appearances in 2010. They should have kept her around and reintroduced her connections to the canvas slowly. I also think it was a mistake to get rid of her son, Nathan, back in 2011. If they needed to get rid of Mark Hapka, fine, but they should have gotten another actor to play the part. You don't get rid of token core characters with deep connections to the canvas like that. Also, once they cemented the importance of Nathan and Melissa, they could have easily brought back Sarah Horton - a character with a blank slate who could be used for pretty much anything (this is who Melissa Archer should have played).

Instead we got lazy retcons such as Daniel being Maggie's eggbaby and whatever the heck that Summer mess was supposed to be these past couple of moths in an attempt to create direct ties to Maggie when they already had other opportunities to do so without needing to rewrite anything.
This show has a sort of terrible relationship with adoption and I kind of wish we'd get a better adoption story. Note how we've never met any of Adrienne's adopted children and the only one they ever really talk about on screen is Alex who is Justin's biological son.

Heck during Dena's lat run Adrienne's adopted kid was so unimportant that they named Joey the same thing as him.. I mean they addressed it on the show how they weren't the same age and wouldn't grow up together and it would be fine... but if they thought they were ever bringing Joseph Kirakis on the show they would have found another name for Joey. When S&K originally talked about names was right after Shawn died and she wanted to honor her father but couldn't because of Shawn D. But Shawn D was even older than Joey Kiriakis and also off screen.

But Shawn was a character they could conceive of bringing back. Joey Kiriakis? Not so much.

And can you think of an adopted Salemite who has come to Salem and met their bio parents who has kept a relationship with their adoptive relatives?
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Oct 22 2016, 10:55 AM
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Oct 16 2016, 02:14 PM
lysie
Oct 16 2016, 10:07 AM
Now, Maggie does have two daughters. Melissa and Sarah.
They never really explained a lot of that. All of a sudden Melissa went to Nashville and then Sarah wanted to be with her. Then I’d be without anybody again. Instead of having a family unit, they’d always be breaking up that family unit. I don’t know whose idea that was. They were always getting rid of my kids.
I have always wondered why Days did this. Mickey was the only child of Tom and Alice to stay consistently with the show past the 1970s. Addie had died, Bill and Marie would only occasionally pop in but were not permanently there and I doubt we will ever find out what happened to Tommy Horton after 1980. It would only have made sense to maintain Mickey's family unit to represent the Horton presence and stress both his and Maggie's importance on the show for years to come but they never seemed to make the effort. Plus, even when Melissa was on the show, she did not serve the same purpose that Hope and Jennifer did. Is it because Melissa and Sarah were not biological Horton's that the show did not care as much about them?

I think it would have made more sense for the show to try and keep Lisa Trusel around on recurring status after her appearances in 2010. They should have kept her around and reintroduced her connections to the canvas slowly. I also think it was a mistake to get rid of her son, Nathan, back in 2011. If they needed to get rid of Mark Hapka, fine, but they should have gotten another actor to play the part. You don't get rid of token core characters with deep connections to the canvas like that. Also, once they cemented the importance of Nathan and Melissa, they could have easily brought back Sarah Horton - a character with a blank slate who could be used for pretty much anything (this is who Melissa Archer should have played).

Instead we got lazy retcons such as Daniel being Maggie's eggbaby and whatever the heck that Summer mess was supposed to be these past couple of moths in an attempt to create direct ties to Maggie when they already had other opportunities to do so without needing to rewrite anything.
This show has a sort of terrible relationship with adoption and I kind of wish we'd get a better adoption story. Note how we've never met any of Adrienne's adopted children and the only one they ever really talk about on screen is Alex who is Justin's biological son.

Heck during Dena's lat run Adrienne's adopted kid was so unimportant that they named Joey the same thing as him.. I mean they addressed it on the show how they weren't the same age and wouldn't grow up together and it would be fine... but if they thought they were ever bringing Joseph Kirakis on the show they would have found another name for Joey. When S&K originally talked about names was right after Shawn died and she wanted to honor her father but couldn't because of Shawn D. But Shawn D was even older than Joey Kiriakis and also off screen.

But Shawn was a character they could conceive of bringing back. Joey Kiriakis? Not so much.

And can you think of an adopted Salemite who has come to Salem and met their bio parents who has kept a relationship with their adoptive relatives?
Agreed. It's terrible. And it's not even just the adopted relationships. They seem to have the mindset of "biological relationships trump everything." It's bizarre, specifically with Dena, because she has adopted children. It will be interesting to see what they do with Carrie when both Marlena and Anna are onscreen. She's one of the few they've managed to maintain (though they pretty much just ignored all of her parental relationships during the majority of her mid 2000s run).

I even found it frustrating with Chelsea and Daniel. We didn't see either of them with their adoptive parents, but they pretty much established that both were close to their adoptive parents. But they both relatively easily forgot about them. It's a major disservice to the characters. That's a layer that should be there for them. Their should be an awkwardness and a little bit of distance where their hesitant to replace a loved, deceased parent. I don't understand Days' desire to have all of these happy happy families. Daytime DRAMA.
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Thanks! That sounds like what I remembered. I'm glad JC was a good guy. I loved him as Mickey.
No no. It turned out JC was the one who was awful. I was the one who questioned it at the time, and I was the one who was wrong.
I don't remember this at all! What did he do?? :OhMy:
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No no. It turned out JC was the one who was awful. I was the one who questioned it at the time, and I was the one who was wrong.
I don't remember this at all! What did he do?? :OhMy:
It was that he was verbally abusive to many of the women on the show and that people didn't like to work with him. I think it might still say in that thread (it was one of the gossip threads) that it was John Ingle, but we figured out later that it was definitely John Clarke. The confusion came because of who the information came from (someone who worked way more with Ingle than Clarke, so I thought she meant Ingle. Apparently, everyone LOVED Ingle).
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I don't remember this at all! What did he do?? :OhMy:
It was that he was verbally abusive to many of the women on the show and that people didn't like to work with him. I think it might still say in that thread (it was one of the gossip threads) that it was John Ingle, but we figured out later that it was definitely John Clarke. The confusion came because of who the information came from (someone who worked way more with Ingle than Clarke, so I thought she meant Ingle. Apparently, everyone LOVED Ingle).
This makes me sad.
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It was that he was verbally abusive to many of the women on the show and that people didn't like to work with him. I think it might still say in that thread (it was one of the gossip threads) that it was John Ingle, but we figured out later that it was definitely John Clarke. The confusion came because of who the information came from (someone who worked way more with Ingle than Clarke, so I thought she meant Ingle. Apparently, everyone LOVED Ingle).
This makes me sad.
Yeah, what a bummer.
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I don't remember this at all! What did he do?? :OhMy:
It was that he was verbally abusive to many of the women on the show and that people didn't like to work with him. I think it might still say in that thread (it was one of the gossip threads) that it was John Ingle, but we figured out later that it was definitely John Clarke. The confusion came because of who the information came from (someone who worked way more with Ingle than Clarke, so I thought she meant Ingle. Apparently, everyone LOVED Ingle).
As others said, that is very sad to hear about John Clarke. It makes you wonder what when on all those years he was on the show. But I have to say, I was curious what was going on when people seemed to think John Ingle was the culprit of the bad behavior, because I just remember him being universally beloved on GH.
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It's odd that John Clarke was on Days for 40 years, and only one person apparently publicly made any complaints about him. Especially considering that he worked closely with some very outspoken actresses, such as Frances Reid and Susan Flannery. :shrug:
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