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Monday, October 17th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 16 2016, 03:52 PM (10,768 Views)
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trojangal
Oct 17 2016, 07:15 PM
I wish Days would cough up a few bucks to have Caroline in some of these pub scenes.
I'm OK with it . ;)
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PhoenixRising05
Oct 17 2016, 07:06 PM
One theory I have is that they have noticed that they have higher ratings during the beginning of the week with Mondays often being the highest so they are planning accordingly in hopes of getting even better numbers. It makes sense, really.
I've had the same thought, also not wanting to waste the better shows on a friday when they know not as many people will see it.
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trojangal
Oct 17 2016, 07:15 PM
I wish Days would cough up a few bucks to have Caroline in some of these pub scenes.
I thought Peggy wasn't well enough to work recently?
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Cimz
Oct 17 2016, 07:24 PM
trojangal
Oct 17 2016, 07:15 PM
I wish Days would cough up a few bucks to have Caroline in some of these pub scenes.
I thought Peggy wasn't well enough to work recently?
Yeah, money isn't the issue anytime she disappears.
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Jamiesims918


Chad,That arm around her doesn't spell friendship to me buddy. Lol. Maybe we will even see a kiss on Halloween as an homage to Chad/Melanie/Abby! Oh boy. Having family and being loved was part of Chad's vows and it sure looked like he had that today. Congrats on finally filling that empty space Dimera! I hope Chad and the writers remember that he is a married man once Abby gets back. I would love to see some vows actually honored for once. And wouldn't it be awful for Gabi with her bad childhood to be called any of the names Abby has been called over the years? We shall see if something smart was written or not.
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Chad, seriously? Can you not be alone for a minute? :facepalm: Gabi and Chad are nice as friends but there is no energy there at all... :sleep2: and I can't take any of it seriously since they showed us Abby crying in that room.

I can't watch Hope at all. Have always loved Jennifer but not when she's all about Hope.

Marlena and John still have "it".

Brady is too dumb to live.
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Kiki
Oct 17 2016, 07:51 PM
Chad, seriously? Can you not be alone for a minute? :facepalm: Gabi and Chad are nice as friends but there is no energy there at all... :sleep2: and I can't take any of it seriously since they showed us Abby crying in that room.

I can't watch Hope at all. Have always loved Jennifer but not when she's all about Hope.

Marlena and John still have "it".

Brady is too dumb to live.
Yes to all of this. Can we send it to the show? Lol
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Kay

Boring episode.
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Jennifer and Hope's conversation was aggravating because it was so damn stupid. I wanted Jennifer to smack Hope aside the head. Sure Hope, give up and go to Utah to be Chase's mom. Ciara will be in a much better place for it. WTH?! Why are these smart women not racking their brains for a way out of this? I get that Hope doesn't want to take Rafe and Roman down with her, so turning herself in isn't an option for her, but this defeatist attitude on her part is lame. Plus I'm just sick and tired of Hope in this storyline. It's dragged it's big ugly ass for too long. Finish it.

Happy, happy, happy that Xander escapes with the opportunity to come back again with dirty Deimos setting him up the way he did. (Thinking ahead for once and I like it!) I did think his exit very dull though. That's the best ya got after bringing him back? His very first scenes trying to strangle Theresa were the most thrilling and that was awhile ago. Today felt as though the writers didn't want to bother themselves with his exit. Shame because PT is very talented as a scary villain. I'll just have to hope they already have jotted down ideas for a bigger return down the road.

I like the setup for tomorrow with Jennifer, Hope, Marlena and John all trapped in the pub with a bomb.

The Chad and Gabi bonding scenes were sweet and especially so that they included Arianna.


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Kiki
Oct 17 2016, 07:51 PM
Chad, seriously? Can you not be alone for a minute? :facepalm: Gabi and Chad are nice as friends but there is no energy there at all... :sleep2: and I can't take any of it seriously since they showed us Abby crying in that room.

I can't watch Hope at all. Have always loved Jennifer but not when she's all about Hope.

Marlena and John still have "it".

Brady is too dumb to live.
Yep, jarlena just have it. Chad and Gabi are nothing compared to them. But it's hard for anyone to live up to the jarlena standard. It's funny but Chad has made sure he isn't alone in some way since about a day after Abby left for the hospital. Whether it's having the teenager taking care of the baby 24/7 or today. I am with you - I can't even get on the "it's soap opera fun" bus since Abby was shown crying hysterically. That, plus Laura's discovery that she was mistreated and misdiagnosed at the hospital.
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Thoughts while watching:

I love John.

I am actually loving the hell out of Orpheus. I hope he sticks around for awhile.

Marlena mentioned Bo!! omg. A mention of Bo.

Jen Lilley is goddamn beautiful.

I can't stand Deimos. Nicole is one of my all-time favorite characters and I find myself unhappy when she has screentime here.

If Brady had that nice chest hair going he'd be channeling some Michael T. Weiss Mike Horton with that shirt.

I really do love both Gabi and Chad, but I absolutely want them to stay friends ONLY. I miss the nice male/female FRIENDships there once were.

Nick might have been a shithead, but yknow, Gabi, you DID kill him. Julie can annoy people, but her feelings aren't unwarranted. We generally dislike people who kill our family members.

I miss actually seeing Caroline. Is Peggy McCay okay?

I'm glad Hope and Jen are sharing scenes again, not particularly enjoying the topic.

Are they trying to replace Victor with Deimos? I want classic Victor back. There is so much potential with Deimos and... they just aren't utilizing it.


Ugh. So Deimos is a sleaze? Okay, I guess. That's certainly what we thought.

I remember when I loved Brady and Nicole. I also loved Eric and Nicole. And EJ and Nicole. Nicole made me love people. I do not love Deimos and Nicole.

Marlena, Hope and Jennifer standing in a line talking to John does on some level make me happy. Bring Kayla, and Steve... Adrienne... Jack! [Okay, we aren't currently bring people back from the dead, sadly.]

Things are happening. And the hero's are being active! I'm loving it despite all the faults.
Edited by chaos, Oct 18 2016, 07:38 AM.
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Well the good thing is, Xander escaped.....maybe he would return in few years and tell Deimos off and goes after Nicole again! :embarrassed:
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jennmarie
Oct 17 2016, 05:20 PM
So far I'm really enjoying today's episode.

I'm positive they are going with Chabby when Abigail comes back so I wish they wouldn't tease Chabi because I much prefer them.
Just curious, not that you need a reason not to like Chabby, but what about them bothers you? I know they aren't everyone's cup of tea.
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Hugo


Well that was boring but I'm relieved Xander is free and can come back!

I liked Chad/Gabi/Ari today, it was cute. I just don't get why Gabi has these long conversations with Chad but we never saw that with JJ if we are supposed to root for Jabi.
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I'm glad Xander got away, with Deimos' help. It almost makes him interesting now! Hopefully Xander will come back and reek havoc on Salem again. ( still disappointed he didn't mention Serena, or that Clyde's son killed her.)

I'm even more convinced MA, or Serena, will never return to the show. :( I had read that Dena Higley didn't like her on OLTL, I guess it was true. :sadwalk:
Edited by Aquamarine, Oct 18 2016, 07:11 AM.
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Oct 18 2016, 07:07 AM
I'm glad Xander got away, with Deimos' help. It almost makes him interesting now! Hopefully Xander will come back and reek havoc on Salem again. ( still disappointed he didn't mention Serena, or that Clyde's son killed her.)

I'm even more convinced MA, or Serena, will never return to the show. :( I had read that Dena Higley didn't like her on OLTL, I guess it was true. :sadwalk:

It's probably for the best. Dena would probably have her and Nicole fighting over Deimos. :rolleyes:
One thing we've noticed about Dena, she don't care about writing strong women.
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I like Nicole's shirt and Jennifer's coat in this episode.

Considering that Hope did ask how Jennifer was doing today, I don't want to come off as ungrateful, but I wish she had empathized with Jennifer losing Abby before, specifically as a mother who has lost a child. KA did some of her best work around Zach's death, and I really do believe that a parent losing a child is one of the most grotesque experiences there are. I wish there was more depth to that than what we got today.

I was just thinking during this episode how it might have been if Hope and Deimos were in a storyline instead, since he's the one who had Bo kidnapped, and Nicole was in a storyline with Rafe, since they were actually friends and he was legitimately nice to her. Not only has Rope's cover-up of Stefano's murder experienced very little movement in 9 months (hopefully that'll change soon?) but it seems totally forgotten that she was motivated by wanting to pursue Bo's kidnapper. What has she even done about that lately? I think one reason I can't get into Deimos is that he keeps gliding through his circles too easily, for me it contributes to the feeling that they are trying to establish him too quickly.
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Gabi's life has not been a piece of cake.Her father deserted their family.Her sister was in prison for a drug offense then later killed in an accident.She got pregnant as a result of her first sexual experience with a guy who later came to grips with the fact that he was gay.As a result of her attempt to ensnare Chad,Melanie was kidnapped by Andrew which later lead to her being blackmailed by Nick then murdering him. She also went to prison for her crime.
I don't really remember how she came to be in Salem but wasn't she still in high school when she came to Salem and began to live and work at the pub?
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I agree that Gabi's life has not been a piece of cake. She's had her hardships as others have. I do think the writing for her right now seems to be laying it on a little thick though, trying to make it sympathetic/understandable for her to be around Chad so much.

JJ has had hardships too and Gabi was involved with some of them and it's weird that they don't ever seem to talk about that. I don't actually blame her for Jack's death at all but why wouldn't she and JJ ever talk about it? If she wants to be his girlfriend (and I know, I know, maybe this is part of her realization that she doesn't) wouldn't it make more sense to bond with him over things and not Chad?

I just think it's a mistake in the writing to show her being hurt by JJ's absence and not at least see any effort from her in trying to bridge whatever distance is between them first. Because I've seen JJ trying to get along at a Hernandez family dinner and reach out to Gabi for romantic moments, and I'm not saying she's unappreciative, but if I saw her also making meaningful gestures then I would feel more sympathetic to her frustrations. And maybe it's unfair, but after all the heavy sad stuff Chabby and JJ have dealt with lately she just seems on another page right now.

If JJ is hiding Abby's existence from everyone, I would like to see how Gabi feels about it. If she feels betrayed you'd think it would be because of her attachment to Abby as well as to JJ not trusting her. But I think that would work more in her favor if she had put some effort forward. Again, I don't think she's got zero good traits even in the context of this relationship, but I think the drama is not stacking up in her favor. I'm not sure it feels like it's going to be a well thought out quadrangle.
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Is cuddling on the couch really appropriate for new friends and an employer/employee? Chad and Gabi should both have more respect for JJ.

Why did Chad think it was his business to ask Gabi if she thought JJ was father material? Her prodding him about moving on was ridiculous too. In fact the whole conversation was ridiculous.

Chad sure doesn't seem to remember Abby much these days.
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