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Topic Started: Oct 17 2016, 01:19 AM (42,706 Views)
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Hugo
Oct 23 2016, 06:59 AM
Bigboy
Oct 23 2016, 06:43 AM
Hugo
Oct 23 2016, 06:16 AM
I feel like a lot of fans asking for TomSell to return don't understand that Whitesell is under contract with GH now. He's one of their breakdown writers I believe. I doubt it would be easy for Days to get him back since it's a different studio and network. I'm not sure about Tomlin, maybe he's available.
Him and Tomlin made a good team especially from mid 2012 until early 2014 i don't where it all went wrong even Corday said they gave Days very good ratings but he also said they were burnt out in the end and ran out of ideas what to write for the show that is why he made another writer change.
What Corday says is just PR. If he noticed TomSell were burnt out in mid-2014 (when they started the elephant statue, Eve/JJ, etc.), why wait until February 2015 to replace them? He said the same thing about Griffith, that he noticed while reading the January episodes that it wasn't "there" so his solution was to let him write 7 more months? It doesn't make any sense. I believe Corday has no clue what is good or bad for the show until he sees the ratings 6 months later and then: "oopsie, we messed up again, let's make changes but we have 6 more months of this shit to air and promote now." Bottomline, all the bad stuff that airs has been approved by Corday and other people, it's not just on the writers.
Exactly!

That's why it's so risky to tape 6 months ahead.
I'm not sure but it looks like other soaps are adopting Days taping schedule (ex.GH) but they are trying to do that while not getting ahead at the same time.
Edited by thepadange, Oct 23 2016, 07:05 AM.
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Hugo
Oct 23 2016, 06:59 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:43 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:16 AM
I feel like a lot of fans asking for TomSell to return don't understand that Whitesell is under contract with GH now. He's one of their breakdown writers I believe. I doubt it would be easy for Days to get him back since it's a different studio and network. I'm not sure about Tomlin, maybe he's available.
Him and Tomlin made a good team especially from mid 2012 until early 2014 i don't where it all went wrong even Corday said they gave Days very good ratings but he also said they were burnt out in the end and ran out of ideas what to write for the show that is why he made another writer change.
What Corday says is just PR. If he noticed TomSell were burnt out in mid-2014 (when they started the elephant statue, Eve/JJ, etc.), why wait until February 2015 to replace them? He said the same thing about Griffith, that he noticed while reading the January episodes that it wasn't "there" so his solution was to let him write 7 more months? It doesn't make any sense. I believe Corday has no clue what is good or bad for the show until he sees the ratings 6 months later and then: "oopsie, we messed up again, let's make changes but we have 6 more months of this shit to air and promote now." Bottomline, all the bad stuff that airs has been approved by Corday and other people, it's not just on the writers.
He said in the mid summer of 2014 that is he was reading the show for sweeps that year and he wasn't liking what he was seeing taped. He waited to replace them in Feb 2015 probably because he thought there may of been a slim chance that the fans would like it and ratings would be good for sweeps but they crashed big time. That is why he hired JG and DH in Feb 2015 he believed as well as Tomsell did in 2013 and early 2014 they run out of ideas and needed a change. But as you said he did the same with JG who i do think he treated badly as well if he had to go he got rid of Dena as well it was like he blaming everything on him Dena got no blame at all.
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thepadange
Oct 23 2016, 06:56 AM
Hugo
Oct 23 2016, 06:45 AM
thepadange
Oct 23 2016, 06:29 AM

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I don't know about that but Whitesell joined GH in early October 2015 according to this, so maybe he already signed for another year.
http://daytimeconfidential.com/2015/09/30/former-days-head-writer-chris-whitesell-lands-at-general-hospital

My point was that a lot of fans assume people are locked in a room somewhere, waiting for Ken Corday to call them. By people, I mean former headwriters and former actors too (Ali, James, Peter, Chandler...). But a lot of these people have moved on, they are not available or not interested to return.
All of this is true. But no one can blame fans for wanting something :laugh: - fans usually don't know what these people (writers, producers, actors etc) think (unless they state it openly in their interviews), so why not ask the show to bring them back lol?
Either way, not a big deal - nobody pays attention to what fans want anyway LOL.
You're right, I can't blame these fans for trying. Sometimes, I'm just annoyed to read how they would easily fix the show by bringing back certain people when that's probably not on the table. But I will get over it. :blulaugh:
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thepadange
Oct 23 2016, 07:03 AM
Hugo
Oct 23 2016, 06:59 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:43 AM

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What Corday says is just PR. If he noticed TomSell were burnt out in mid-2014 (when they started the elephant statue, Eve/JJ, etc.), why wait until February 2015 to replace them? He said the same thing about Griffith, that he noticed while reading the January episodes that it wasn't "there" so his solution was to let him write 7 more months? It doesn't make any sense. I believe Corday has no clue what is good or bad for the show until he sees the ratings 6 months later and then: "oopsie, we messed up again, let's make changes but we have 6 more months of this shit to air and promote now." Bottomline, all the bad stuff that airs has been approved by Corday and other people, it's not just on the writers.
Exactly!

That's why it's so risky to tape 6 months ahead.
I'm not sure but it looks like other soaps are adopting Days taping schedule (ex.GH) but they are trying to do that while not getting ahead at the same time.
I suppose if its only way the show will be able to stay on air taping 6 months in advance then they have no choice but what i don't get is i always thought Days was the richest soap having Corday and Sony and NBC behind them and wouldn't counting the pennies like this. They should care more about the quality of the show and have a two to three month taping in advance not 6 months it can't be expensive for someone like Sony look how rich they are.
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Oct 23 2016, 06:53 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:45 AM
thepadange
Oct 23 2016, 06:29 AM

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I don't know about that but Whitesell joined GH in early October 2015 according to this, so maybe he already signed for another year.
http://daytimeconfidential.com/2015/09/30/former-days-head-writer-chris-whitesell-lands-at-general-hospital

My point was that a lot of fans assume people are locked in a room somewhere, waiting for Ken Corday to call them. By people, I mean former headwriters and former actors too (Ali, James, Peter, Chandler...). But a lot of these people have moved on, they are not available or not interested to return.
Can you blame them he treated those actors very badly and those former head writers who still gave Days much better ratings than not only the current ones but the 50th ones as well especially in the demos. I was always told when you treated someone bad in the end it will always come back to bite you. He pushed Peter out the door by back burning Bo poor Chandler felt unwanted in the end and he gave Ali and James a crap ending death to EJ by some unknown character who was only on the show for a few days. Corday only got himself to blame none of them will come back unless he is gone from the show i wish someone had the power to fire him.
Sure and they treated some of the vets who carried the show for decades horribly and they've still come back. James and Ali weren't some sort of special case.
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Btw, its a very bad PR what Corday is doing. For his own (and the show's) sake he (they) should just change writers when it's needed and stop talking about what was not ok, what he didn't like etc. That's not how you make people invested in your show.
I wish Days let their writers talk more in press or social media. Have we ever had an interview with GT and CW?
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thepadange
Oct 23 2016, 07:14 AM
Btw, its a very bad PR what Corday is doing. For his own (and the show's) sake he (they) should just change writers when it's needed and don't talk about what was not ok, what he didn't like (it's past) etc. That's not how you make people invested in your show.
I wish Days let their writers to talk more in press or social media. Have we ever had an interview with GT and CW?
Corday really shouldn't speak because he makes things worse and rarely gets things right. But when Dena speaks it usually makes me want to stop watching the show. I'm glad she doesn't interact more.
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thepadange
Oct 23 2016, 07:03 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:59 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:43 AM

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What Corday says is just PR. If he noticed TomSell were burnt out in mid-2014 (when they started the elephant statue, Eve/JJ, etc.), why wait until February 2015 to replace them? He said the same thing about Griffith, that he noticed while reading the January episodes that it wasn't "there" so his solution was to let him write 7 more months? It doesn't make any sense. I believe Corday has no clue what is good or bad for the show until he sees the ratings 6 months later and then: "oopsie, we messed up again, let's make changes but we have 6 more months of this shit to air and promote now." Bottomline, all the bad stuff that airs has been approved by Corday and other people, it's not just on the writers.
Exactly!

That's why it's so risky to tape 6 months ahead.
I'm not sure but it looks like other soaps are adopting Days taping schedule (ex.GH) but they are trying to do that while not getting ahead at the same time.
The only way his explanations would make sense is if he was forced to keep the same writers 6 more months by higher powers. Then maybe Corday is not to blame if he warned them but they refused to listen to him.
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Oct 23 2016, 07:18 AM
thepadange
Oct 23 2016, 07:03 AM
Hugo
Oct 23 2016, 06:59 AM

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Exactly!

That's why it's so risky to tape 6 months ahead.
I'm not sure but it looks like other soaps are adopting Days taping schedule (ex.GH) but they are trying to do that while not getting ahead at the same time.
The only way his explanations would make sense is if he was forced to keep the same writers 6 more months by higher powers. Then maybe Corday is not to blame if he warned them but they refused to listen to him.
Somehow I doubt it :laugh: but who knows.
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Lovejm
Oct 23 2016, 07:12 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:53 AM
Hugo
Oct 23 2016, 06:45 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://daytimeconfidential.com/2015/09/30/former-days-head-writer-chris-whitesell-lands-at-general-hospital

My point was that a lot of fans assume people are locked in a room somewhere, waiting for Ken Corday to call them. By people, I mean former headwriters and former actors too (Ali, James, Peter, Chandler...). But a lot of these people have moved on, they are not available or not interested to return.
Can you blame them he treated those actors very badly and those former head writers who still gave Days much better ratings than not only the current ones but the 50th ones as well especially in the demos. I was always told when you treated someone bad in the end it will always come back to bite you. He pushed Peter out the door by back burning Bo poor Chandler felt unwanted in the end and he gave Ali and James a crap ending death to EJ by some unknown character who was only on the show for a few days. Corday only got himself to blame none of them will come back unless he is gone from the show i wish someone had the power to fire him.
Sure and they treated some of the vets who carried the show for decades horribly and they've still come back. James and Ali weren't some sort of special case.
Just curious. What bad things did he do to Ali and James other than Ali didn't like the ending of their story?
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Oct 23 2016, 07:57 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 07:12 AM
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Oct 23 2016, 06:53 AM
Sure and they treated some of the vets who carried the show for decades horribly and they've still come back. James and Ali weren't some sort of special case.
Just curious. What bad things has he done to Ali and James other than Ali didn't like the ending of their story?
I don't think they were treated badly. I'm just saying they weren't some sort of isolated case and treated badly as some sort of agenda.
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Oct 23 2016, 04:04 AM
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Oct 22 2016, 05:49 PM
I admit that Tomlin and Whitesell did well with ratings for a while, but they also tanked them for a while too. And regardless, I don't think ratings are dependent specifically on which characters are featured, although I think continuity matters. IMO it's mostly about storyline build-up and pay-off, and Days can't seem to get both parts of that right for sustained amounts of time.

I would take one writer who is really good at storytelling structure, and one writer who is really good with Days history and characterization. They'd have to be people who are willing to put the show's needs above their own egos.
Writers will always have faves and so will the network some characters that people hate are others that some of us totally love so how does a writer know what is the best for the show. I was told the show is more balanced now compared to a few years back but its not showing in the ratings so that argument doesn't wash with me. JG did all that story telling and using plenty of characters for for the 50th and he still got the boot in the end when ratings crashed big time after Christmas.
Balance has nothing to do with ratings.

Can we please go back to having real conversations?
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Oct 23 2016, 10:13 AM
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I wonder if Billy will be there too?
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My two faves on Days at the moment Thaao is the best vet by a mile to me and i like Lauren as well Andre is such a great baddie they got it right with the writing for him oh such good memories when he was on the show in 2007 just after i started watching.
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My two faves on Days at the moment Thaao is the best vet by a mile to me and i like Lauren as well Andre is such a great baddie they got it right with the writing for him oh such good memories when he was on the show in 2007 just after i started watching.
Personally, I find Andre cartoonish no depth more like a character that you use in a farce. Kate could have been a character to be reckoned with, bad ass women strong etc but instead I find her pathetic nowadays.
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Oct 23 2016, 11:14 AM
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My two faves on Days at the moment Thaao is the best vet by a mile to me and i like Lauren as well Andre is such a great baddie they got it right with the writing for him oh such good memories when he was on the show in 2007 just after i started watching.
Personally, I find Andre cartoonish no depth more like a character that you use in a farce. Kate could have been a character to be reckoned with, bad ass women strong etc but instead I find her pathetic nowadays.
Andre is a scary character to me remember that time he use to torture Sami and EJ i used hate him and never forget that clown scene with Sami great acting by Thaao and Ali poor Sami looked so scared.
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Oct 22 2016, 04:34 PM
Ali and James NBC adored them make them the new writers Alison already a director on GH and Days and they tell James to get his writing pen out they know the show they been there for years and they have respect of their fellow actors they do a better job than Dena is doing she is a terrible writer anyone is better than her.
Oh, for Pete's sake, now I've heard it all.
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Oct 22 2016, 04:48 PM
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Oct 22 2016, 09:25 AM
I don't think it's Ava because the woman looks nothing like TB. But I'm not getting Lani because the woman looks awfully Caucasian to me.
It looks like Blanca to me. I don't know if she's still around though, so :shrug:
I think it looks most like Lani too. The reason she looks Caucasian is because the entire picture is washed out. Everything on the screen has a grayish tint.
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Oct 23 2016, 11:19 AM
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Personally, I find Andre cartoonish no depth more like a character that you use in a farce. Kate could have been a character to be reckoned with, bad ass women strong etc but instead I find her pathetic nowadays.
Andre is a scary character to me remember that time he use to torture Sami and EJ i used hate him and never forget that clown scene with Sami great acting by Thaao and Ali poor Sami looked so scared.
He was a psycho back then, and a psycho does not work long term. Now Andre is ..... there are certainly lots of different proposals to fill in the blank text ;)
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