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Tuesday, October 18th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 17 2016, 05:19 PM (11,506 Views)
Rosebud
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bygnedys
Oct 18 2016, 04:03 PM
Orpheus acting like he doesn't know Hope. Wasn't O. and V. partners during part of time of the bond story? I thought V. told him not to hurt his son Bo. He would have known that Bo was married to Hope.
Bo and Hope were in the sewer at the end when Marlena and John escaped into it from Orpheus, and when Orpheus escaped almost being drowned, so why he isn't bothered by Hope the same as Patch and Kayla makes no sense to me. He'd at least mention she was in Stockholm. It would have made more sense if he tied the bomb to Hope.
Edited by Rosebud, Oct 19 2016, 12:07 AM.
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lancer
Oct 18 2016, 04:22 PM
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Oct 18 2016, 03:34 PM
JerseyGirl59
Oct 18 2016, 11:04 AM
John tells Orpheus that they were partners??? Um..John was never partners with Orpheus, Roman was...or am I forgetting something :shrug:
They are referencing the time when Orpheus was in the ISA before his wife died
That was still Roman. IIRC, it was never stated that they were longtime partners. They were partners on the Stockholm mission and that's where his wife was killed. As an example of how they change things as the story evolves, I was recently watching an 86 episode where Marlena, on the phone, manages to tell RoJohn that Orpheus has her. She thinks she's pulled one over on her captors(the ISA). In fact. they had wanted her to tell him that.
Anyway, the name rings no bells to RoJohn. At the time, he really didn't have his memory. Shane is there and hears the name. He recognizes it. Tells RoJohn that he was a former ISA agent turned assassin. Tells him what he knows. Roman and Orpheus were partners in a 1977 mission where hundreds of thousands of lives were at stake. The mission was successful, but something went terribly wrong and Orpheus went rogue. But he didn't know what went wrong. This maybe September. By November. it had now happened on the Stockholm mission. I don't view that as a big deal.
They were still on a mission together and something went terribly wrong.

As far as today's stuff goes. Hey. Orpheus you had 6 weeks to go after Roman if you wanted. Not a peep. Then again, why would you? "John" was your ISA partner and killed your wife.

I don't believe that Orpheus and Hope ever encountered each other on screen. He did say, Hope, right. It's not like he said who are you.
Yes Victor and Orpheus were working together to get the bonds. At least originally. Turned out that Orpheus only wanted them to get at Roman.
I've been watching 86 and RoJohn did finally remember the mission and what happened.

After Stockholm, RoJohn told Marlena that he and Orpheus had been partners, and I got the impression that it was a long term partnership, not just one mission, because RoJohn told Marlena that Orpheus was especially dangerous because he knew him so well that he knew how RoJohn thinks. I don't think he'd know him that well if he'd only worked with him once. So, I think they at least got that right today.
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Rosebud
Oct 19 2016, 12:06 AM
bygnedys
Oct 18 2016, 04:03 PM
Orpheus acting like he doesn't know Hope. Wasn't O. and V. partners during part of time of the bond story? I thought V. told him not to hurt his son Bo. He would have known that Bo was married to Hope.
Bo and Hope were in the sewer at the end when Marlena and John escaped into it from Orpheus, and when Orpheus escaped almost being drowned, so why he isn't bothered by Hope the same as Patch and Kayla makes no sense to me. He'd at least mention she was in Stockholm. It would have made more sense if he tied the bomb to Hope.
Orpheous attaching the bomb to Jennifer really annoys me. It should have been someone else. Marlena clearly but even Hope or Caroline would have made some sense. Jennifer ???
Edited by SuperDaysViewer, Oct 19 2016, 06:27 AM.
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Oct 19 2016, 06:26 AM
Rosebud
Oct 19 2016, 12:06 AM
bygnedys
Oct 18 2016, 04:03 PM
Orpheus acting like he doesn't know Hope. Wasn't O. and V. partners during part of time of the bond story? I thought V. told him not to hurt his son Bo. He would have known that Bo was married to Hope.
Bo and Hope were in the sewer at the end when Marlena and John escaped into it from Orpheus, and when Orpheus escaped almost being drowned, so why he isn't bothered by Hope the same as Patch and Kayla makes no sense to me. He'd at least mention she was in Stockholm. It would have made more sense if he tied the bomb to Hope.
Orpheous attaching the bomb to Jennifer really annoys me. It should have been someone else. Marlena clearly but even Hope or Caroline would have made some sense. Jennifer ???
Jennifer wasn't chosen. She went upstairs alone. And Orpheus didn't do it. His henchmen did. Hope didn't provide an opportunity to be strapped to a bomb.
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lysie
Oct 19 2016, 06:37 AM
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Oct 19 2016, 06:26 AM
Rosebud
Oct 19 2016, 12:06 AM

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Orpheous attaching the bomb to Jennifer really annoys me. It should have been someone else. Marlena clearly but even Hope or Caroline would have made some sense. Jennifer ???
Jennifer wasn't chosen. She went upstairs alone. And Orpheus didn't do it. His henchmen did. Hope didn't provide an opportunity to be strapped to a bomb.
For all we know Orpheus told him to get the blonde and he thought he had the right one. But either way Hope and Marlena never left the room so it would have been impossible to get the bomb on them.
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I forgot to add the idea of the hospital being a 'safe zone' worked especially having the teens there. Otherwise you have the teens alone for most of this so this way J&M Hope wouldn't have to worry about them too (and Kayla is also at the hospital)
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Excellent episode from top to bottom! Had everything I could want and all the performances were on point. This shows me (along with many other strong episodes lately) the change in writers has been a smart move.
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I really liked the part right before Hope was about to pull the last fuse, and she whispered "Ready cous? I love you."
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dont cops wear bullent proof vests incase they get shot if so why wasn't jj wearing one
Edited by lisawinnie, Oct 19 2016, 10:35 AM.
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So am I the only one bothered by the fact that the show is basically pretending John is Roman again? I'd love him to be Roman again, but he isn't. The line about how Orpheus and JOhn were partenrs is bogus, right? Or did I miss something.
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jennmarie
Oct 19 2016, 10:36 AM
So am I the only one bothered by the fact that the show is basically pretending John is Roman again? I'd love him to be Roman again, but he isn't. The line about how Orpheus and JOhn were partenrs is bogus, right? Or did I miss something.
They just should have picked one story and stuck with it the whole time. I thought yesterday was the first time since Orpheus got back that they really made it sound like this was all Orpheus John history. They had been a little vaguer before. And then they threw the line in about Roman and it made less sense lol
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Oct 19 2016, 10:43 AM
jennmarie
Oct 19 2016, 10:36 AM
So am I the only one bothered by the fact that the show is basically pretending John is Roman again? I'd love him to be Roman again, but he isn't. The line about how Orpheus and JOhn were partenrs is bogus, right? Or did I miss something.
They just should have picked one story and stuck with it the whole time. I thought yesterday was the first time since Orpheus got back that they really made it sound like this was all Orpheus John history. They had been a little vaguer before. And then they threw the line in about Roman and it made less sense lol
I know that JT isn't a great actor, but would it have been that hard to incorporate Roman into this story appropriately? I mean I would have been fine with watching Roman AND John working together against Orpheus. They don't have to give JT a lot of a/t even, but it seems like it could have been constructed much better than it has been. And honestly, it should have been Roman, not Steve (and no this is not a jab at Steve/Kayla or the pairing in anyway; I honestly think this) that should have had that gun to Orpheus' head.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Haha at Chad and Marlena. She's Dr. Evans sweetie there's nothing she can't do!
Edited by PetrovaSalvatore, Oct 19 2016, 03:01 PM.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Go soldier Black! Glad he took down Orpheus. Took him long enough. Too much chatter yesterday!! Steve was great too.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Glad Anne mentioned the likeness between Kayla and Adrienne. It'd hilarious if someone mentions how much she looks like Bonnie Lockhart.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Loved Ade's reaction to Justin's hug lol :blulaugh:
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Why is Kayla operating? Is she the only doctor on staff? She just had surgery!!?
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Loved Marlena's "Damn" :laugh:
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Haha "you make quite the Devil" :blulaugh:
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jennmarie
Oct 19 2016, 11:03 AM
Lovejm
Oct 19 2016, 10:43 AM
jennmarie
Oct 19 2016, 10:36 AM
So am I the only one bothered by the fact that the show is basically pretending John is Roman again? I'd love him to be Roman again, but he isn't. The line about how Orpheus and JOhn were partenrs is bogus, right? Or did I miss something.
They just should have picked one story and stuck with it the whole time. I thought yesterday was the first time since Orpheus got back that they really made it sound like this was all Orpheus John history. They had been a little vaguer before. And then they threw the line in about Roman and it made less sense lol
I know that JT isn't a great actor, but would it have been that hard to incorporate Roman into this story appropriately? I mean I would have been fine with watching Roman AND John working together against Orpheus. They don't have to give JT a lot of a/t even, but it seems like it could have been constructed much better than it has been. And honestly, it should have been Roman, not Steve (and no this is not a jab at Steve/Kayla or the pairing in anyway; I honestly think this) that should have had that gun to Orpheus' head.
I think it's possible they were saving JT's episodes for the next round of it's all about hope. He's very much in the middle of her coverup.

Secondly, I think they wanted this to be the supercouples against the villain. Right or wrong that's what it seems like.
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