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Tuesday, October 18th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 17 2016, 05:19 PM (11,512 Views)
No1_ILoveLucyFan
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I wonder if Caroline is gonna add that vest to her collection...
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No1_ILoveLucyFan
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OK. John tied up and on his knees.


Days is playin with my freebie feels today!!!
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Amazee-Dayzee
Oct 18 2016, 12:56 PM
Rosebud
Oct 18 2016, 12:53 PM
If they're going to say it's John that killed Rebecca then why even bother having Orpheus mention Faux at all?

And seriously, why not strap the bomb to Marlena...you know, the one he actually hates and would upset John the most? I think the show is just using Orpheus to mindlessly spread the drama around so they can claim this is an umbrella story. Give Hope and Jenn and Rafe and Eduardo something to do, even though Orpheus wouldn't give two shit about them. :rolleyes:
Sometimes I just think the writers go and write something as a storyline and make it up as they go along.

Oh and they don't do research. While RoDrake/John dealt with Orpheus, it was RoJohn/RoChris who killed Rebecca.
You mean RoWayne?

It actually was RoJohn if you go back and watch the recreated flashback of her death from 86... It was Drake in the scene. But that all changed when they brought Wayne back.
Edited by Rosebud, Oct 18 2016, 01:04 PM.
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Casey Moss did a great job as a shooting victim. :applause:

It's a good thing Ed and Hope aren't color blind... "Pull the green wire. NO!! Pull the blue wire." :blulaugh:
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Rosebud
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I just don't get it. Sue me, but I don't get how Orpheus comes back and mostof the action surrounding him has had nothing to do with John and Marlena.

Yea, it's oh so nice Marlena's helping JJ, but i want to watch her going nuts that John is somewhere in danger at the hands of their once arch enemy. This show managed to make me only feel bored during this episode.
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Rosebud
Oct 18 2016, 01:02 PM
Amazee-Dayzee
Oct 18 2016, 12:56 PM
Rosebud
Oct 18 2016, 12:53 PM
If they're going to say it's John that killed Rebecca then why even bother having Orpheus mention Faux at all?

And seriously, why not strap the bomb to Marlena...you know, the one he actually hates and would upset John the most? I think the show is just using Orpheus to mindlessly spread the drama around so they can claim this is an umbrella story. Give Hope and Jenn and Rafe and Eduardo something to do, even though Orpheus wouldn't give two shit about them. :rolleyes:
Sometimes I just think the writers go and write something as a storyline and make it up as they go along.

Oh and they don't do research. While RoDrake/John dealt with Orpheus, it was RoJohn/RoChris who killed Rebecca.
You mean RoWayne?

It actually was RoJohn if you go back and watch the recreated flashback of her death from 86... It was Drake in the scene. But that all changed when they brought Wayne back.
Imagine if they actually use the flashback of RoJohn accidentally killing Rebecca. :blulaugh:
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Rosebud
Oct 18 2016, 01:10 PM
I just don't get it. Sue me, but I don't get how Orpheus comes back and mostof the action surrounding him has had nothing to do with John and Marlena.

Yea, it's oh so nice Marlena's helping JJ, but i want to watch her going nuts that John is somewhere in danger at the hands of their once arch enemy. This show managed to make me only feel bored during this episode.
What do you mean it's had nothing to do with J/M? They've been his main focus and all he talks about since he came to town! :shrug:
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Marlena shouldve been the one strapped with the bomb, it would've been reminiscent of 1986!!
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PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 18 2016, 01:18 PM
Rosebud
Oct 18 2016, 01:10 PM
I just don't get it. Sue me, but I don't get how Orpheus comes back and mostof the action surrounding him has had nothing to do with John and Marlena.

Yea, it's oh so nice Marlena's helping JJ, but i want to watch her going nuts that John is somewhere in danger at the hands of their once arch enemy. This show managed to make me only feel bored during this episode.
What do you mean it's had nothing to do with J/M? They've been his main focus and all he talks about since he came to town! :shrug:
And it's been two months. He couldn't spend every minute only talking to or about them. They've been in the middle of everything happening here.
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Lovejm
Oct 18 2016, 01:20 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 18 2016, 01:18 PM
Rosebud
Oct 18 2016, 01:10 PM
I just don't get it. Sue me, but I don't get how Orpheus comes back and mostof the action surrounding him has had nothing to do with John and Marlena.

Yea, it's oh so nice Marlena's helping JJ, but i want to watch her going nuts that John is somewhere in danger at the hands of their once arch enemy. This show managed to make me only feel bored during this episode.
What do you mean it's had nothing to do with J/M? They've been his main focus and all he talks about since he came to town! :shrug:
And it's been two months. He couldn't spend every minute only talking to or about them. They've been in the middle of everything happening here.
I spend every minute talking about them. Why can't he? :lol:
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Good episode wish O/ Steve/ John scene was on the pier ugh..
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PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 18 2016, 01:17 PM
Rosebud
Oct 18 2016, 01:02 PM
Amazee-Dayzee
Oct 18 2016, 12:56 PM

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You mean RoWayne?

It actually was RoJohn if you go back and watch the recreated flashback of her death from 86... It was Drake in the scene. But that all changed when they brought Wayne back.
Imagine if they actually use the flashback of RoJohn accidentally killing Rebecca. :blulaugh:
They might as well, since Orpheus is saying it.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 18 2016, 01:19 PM
Marlena shouldve been the one strapped with the bomb, it would've been reminiscent of 1986!!
What? And miss all that Rafe and Hope bonding?
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Tammy
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God, how I wish tptb could get their own shows history right!!!!
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PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 18 2016, 01:19 PM
Marlena shouldve been the one strapped with the bomb, it would've been reminiscent of 1986!!
That would have been a better choice then Jen IMO.
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Tammy
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I understand that the writers might have wanted to just make it so that John killed Orpheus' wife... because of any continuity issues and with JT playing Roman now. I maybe could have swallowed that... but if that's the case STOP bringing Roman up in Orpheus's dialogue!

"I only wish I could have lured Roman to the Pub..." WHY? If John's the one who shot your wife!

And John's dialogue is no better, "Come on man we were partners..." NO... no you weren't! I get that this might be John speaking about Roman's memories that he still has, but this makes it confusing as hell!

:frustration:
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

OMG he said it!! He actually said it to John. "Losing my wife at your hands,"
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

It's official! John is Roman Brady again, all we need now is Eric, Sami and Carrie to start calling him dad.
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I actually thought today was really good aside from ONE thing...

The obvious confusion over the Roman/John/Orpheus history. John and Orpheus both referencing being partners, John killing Rebecca, etc. It almost seems like there is confusion within the writing team over what to do because we are getting conflicting info. I mean, why even bother referencing Roman if it's about John? I have no issue centering this on him but pick a direction and stick to it. This is exactly like what happened in the Bo story last year where they kept changing the circumstances surrounding his being MIA regularly. I didn't mind them saying that John along with the ISA painted him as evil. That makes sense. And he could certainly be out for mostly John because he left him for dead and all but if you are going to evoke Roman's name in this, than be accurate because it's problematic if you don't. O

Other than that, I think they did very well today with the Orpheus stuff. This was the Orpheus I remember especially in his scenes with John alone. Those scenes were intense and I love how he brought up Rebecca and his kids. Great scenes and great ending with Steve. I had no issue with Jennifer being the one to carry the bomb. Orpheus had mentioned wanting Roman lured to the Pub too but said he couldn't be greedy and had to take what he could get. Lazio is the one that put the bomb on Jennifer so it was obvious that he just put the bomb on whoever he could and Orpheus just wanted to cause as much destruction as possible. He even told John after John asked him to promise that he wouldn't hurt anyone else after he kills him that he could make no promises. I think the whole Pub thing was just a way for him to get to John and then cause more destruction in the wake of that plot. Then, once John was dead, he could go after anyone else he wished and just make off with the money. I thought it worked well.

The Hope/Jennifer/Rafe/Eduardo stuff was really intense. I like how it played. I can tolerate Rafe and Hope much better without the Aiden/Stefano nonsense and when they are involved in other stories. I was worried about how it would play when Marlena left but it came off ok. The whole town is in chaos, afterall.

I LOVED the production values at the square today. The way it looked so foggy/smoky and the effect it created in the scenes where Orpheus shot JJ and the fallout was really cool. It almost reminded me of the Stockholm a bit. Marlena, Gabi, and Chad with JJ was really good too. Everyone, especially CM, did well there.

And the hospital stuff with Steve and Kayla may have been filler but it was important filler. Scenes like that enhance the action. That was the biggest improvement today. Urgency. I felt intensity across the board today. It felt like a story climax. This is how the whole thing should've been written. And, they limited their focus today to just 13 characters and it allowed them to put together a much better show.

And I continue to love the developing Chad/Gabi/JJ stuff.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 18 2016, 03:00 PM
It's official! John is Roman Brady again, all we need now is Eric, Sami and Carrie to start calling him dad.
I wish. I know the Shelle factor makes it weird but I will gladly deal with that.
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