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Friday, October 21st Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 20 2016, 06:07 PM (10,466 Views)
jennmarie
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kay
Oct 22 2016, 06:15 AM
Restless84
Oct 22 2016, 12:38 AM
Did Chloe tell Nicole she altered the results or is Nicole just assuming that because she told her Deimos was the father before she had the DNA test done?
Nicole said Chloe asked her doctor to alter the test to say Deimos was not the father. I do not remember that happening. Chloe and Philip asked Kate to find a way to change the results but Clyde held Kate up and she did not get there In time.

Nicole had no right telling Deimos anything. That secret was Chloe' s to reveal not Nicole' s.
While I think Nicole should have probably tried to get Chloe to tell Deimos, I can understand why she felt the need to tell him. She was feeling guilty about keeping that from him and is in a relationship with him. Chloe has every right to be pissed off of course, but I don't think Nicole telling Deimos was wrong necessarily.
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esp13
Oct 22 2016, 08:23 AM
Lovejm
Oct 22 2016, 07:59 AM
Oh so Laura got cut. Weird.
It's doubly weird because JLB posted that her next airdate wasn't until December right after her first appearance a couple months ago. Assuming she was cut from this episode, she knew about it that far back.

Plus, Jennifer said she left Laura a message. So if JLB was cut, then they had to reshoot just to add that line which makes very little sense.

Obviously, that recap came from somewhere, but nothing about Laura originally being in this episode seems to fit.
I think she left her a message Wednesday. Did she say that again yesterday? It's really odd for the reasons you said too. I'm pretty sure JLB said December 5 was her other episode

Also I think the Hayes said they were only on for Halloween and Julie was around this week so who knows.
Edited by Lovejm, Oct 22 2016, 08:33 AM.
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Lovejm
Oct 22 2016, 08:32 AM
esp13
Oct 22 2016, 08:23 AM
Lovejm
Oct 22 2016, 07:59 AM
Oh so Laura got cut. Weird.
It's doubly weird because JLB posted that her next airdate wasn't until December right after her first appearance a couple months ago. Assuming she was cut from this episode, she knew about it that far back.

Plus, Jennifer said she left Laura a message. So if JLB was cut, then they had to reshoot just to add that line which makes very little sense.

Obviously, that recap came from somewhere, but nothing about Laura originally being in this episode seems to fit.
I think she left her a message Wednesday. Did she say that again yesterday? It's really odd for the reasons you said too. I'm pretty sure JLB said December 5 was her other episode

Also I think the Hayes said they were only on for Halloween and Julie was around this week so who knows.
Oops, you're right, the message thing was Wednesday, not yesterday.

But it's still weird. If Laura was just cut out, then the recap should have also mentioned Julie. But it seems more like Julie was there instead of Laura. It makes no sense they would reshoot the entire scene, particularly if they already paid JLB.

It's like the recap was based on a script and they changed it before shooting to have Julie there instead. I wonder if JLB wasn't available the day they were going to shoot that scene for some reason.
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Deimos and Nicole:

Nicole butted her head in the situation and then kept butting her head in. She wouldn't even have a secret to tell if she hadn't forced the truth out of Chloe that Deimos was the father. And then she took that information and just sat on it for no clear reason at all besides promising Chloe she wouldn't tell. And she really didn't seem the least bit guilty about knowing in her interactions with Deimos. And then, after promising Chloe a promise she wouldn't even have made if she hadn't gotten involved, she decided to break Chloe's trust for Deimos, whom she was already lying to, and then wanted a cookie for finally telling the truth.

I love Nicole and Deimos is a hypocritical ass, but I don't understand why Nicole thinks "eventually" telling the truth is most important and I can't believe she pretty much is blindsiding Chloe about breaking her trust. Especially since this is exactly why Chloe didn't want to confide in Nicole in the first place, but Nicole kept reassuring her that her concerns were unfounded and that Chloe could count on her. She's been saying for months she wanted to take things slow and was growing closer to Deimos, so why even agree to keep the secret in the first place? None of Nicole's actions make sense in this storyline and honestly, everything she has done has been a wrong move in my opinion, starting with getting involved with a man she believed her best friend had a right to keep away from his kid out of fear in the first place. Who the hell does that? Why would that be the kind of person you wanted to be with in the first place?

Bottom line, in my opinion, Nicole has been wrong from start to finish.
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Lovejm
Oct 22 2016, 07:59 AM
Oh so Laura got cut. Weird.
So I guess TV Soap got this info from this. I would have liked to have seen Laura with Jennifer.
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When Chloe left, she went to the Pub to tell Nicole. To me, Chloe looked like she wanted to tell Nicole something, either who the real father is, or that it is Nicole's baby somehow.But she saw Nicole and Deimos all lovey dovey, and decided not to say anything.

I get that Deimos would be upset that Nicole had kept the "truth" from him. But he was OTT.

I'm glad they are using Lucas more.

What is JJ's secret?
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Oct 21 2016, 03:07 PM
laurondo
Oct 21 2016, 03:01 PM
Since they made Derrick be the guy that pops back up, it doesn't make any sense to me.

Why would Paul even be friends with him? He's the reason that article happened and everything blew up in Paul's face.

Why would the only reason Sonny has a problem with Paul and Derrick "hanging out" be that he has feelings for Paul? If it were me I'd be more upset that Paul seems just fine and dandy with the guy who pretty much betrayed them both.

If they wanted to bring in a guy so that Sonny could appear jealous, it should've been someone new. That old photographer from that photoshoot Paul did back in January, for example??
The reporter who outed the "affair" between Paul and Will said he talked to someone at the hotel but he never said it was Derrick. I remember Paul and Sonny assumed it was him but then later Paul started to date Derrick, Sonny and Will went on a double date with Paul and him, and it was never brought up. If it wasn't an issue back then, why would it be an issue now?
not to mention when PaulSon had coffee for the first time after he got back Sonny asked Paul in a round about way if he was still seeing Derrick.
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Aquamarine
Oct 22 2016, 10:06 PM
When Chloe left, she went to the Pub to tell Nicole. To me, Chloe looked like she wanted to tell Nicole something, either who the real father is, or that it is Nicole's baby somehow.But she saw Nicole and Deimos all lovey dovey, and decided not to say anything.

I get that Deimos would be upset that Nicole had kept the "truth" from him. But he was OTT.

I'm glad they are using Lucas more.

What is JJ's secret?
Yes, he was so OTT that I'm going to have a real problem if this isn't the end of Nicole/Deimos. I'm actually one that enjoys Deimos and doesn't want him off canvas so I'm fine with how he behaved ONLY because I want him to be a rat bastard. I just don't think that Nicole can take him back now without it making her look very weak. I don't want them together anyway, but I'm concerned that she might just take him back if he says he's sorry. I hope I'm wrong.
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kay
Oct 21 2016, 08:35 PM
Ocean
Oct 21 2016, 03:54 PM
How old is Ari? I've never seen her walk. My god she needs to walk or run insted of being held by everyone like she's a baby.
Arianna was born in May 2013. So she would be 3 1/2 now. The girls who portray Arianna actually just turned 4 this week I believe.
Sonny and Paul had this talk I think they said she was 4
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kay
Oct 21 2016, 08:27 PM
Lovejm
Oct 21 2016, 03:45 PM
So Chad just said he has plenty of help with the nanny and the staff and Harold. So why did he need Ciara before and then Lucas and Adrienne? So much plot.
I thought Jennifer insisted that Lucas and Adrienne take care of Thomas at the mansion as part of the agreement so she did not sue for custody. Then when the villains came to town they just continued to stay with Chad.
because he replaced Ciara with a new nanny
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Oct 21 2016, 04:51 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 03:47 PM
laurondo
Oct 21 2016, 03:12 PM

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AND: Derrick got all that info from Will that he used to get close to Paul (the stuff about Paul's dream of playing catch with his dad) & Paul was pissed at the time that Will gave him the personal info about Paul (Not that it was anything worth getting upset about)& that Derrick used it.

And the bellboy is now an administrative assistant at the hospital???

Just seems ridiculous to bring him back.

One small detail: In their previous backstory, one of Sonny's issues (& supposedly the reason it didn't work) was that Paul would never go out in public with Sonny, they only met in his hotel room. Now, they hug out together Comicon???? Oh & btw, this is my BIG problem with PaulSon & my lack of interest or investment: We've been TOLD they were in love & had some great affair. We never saw it. Storytelling 101 Ms. Higley: SHOW, DON"T TELL. Paul told Derrick Sonny needs to move on to something that has nothing to do with his past and I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

Today's whole ep was a bit melodramatic & blown out of proportion: Deimos thinks Nicole is his "soulmate?" I literally spit out my drink at that one. Sonny wants to talk about the "Moment we shared"? Holding hands while Paul bled? It wasn't like they almost kissed, or almost confessed their feelings or or or.... almost anything. It didn't really feel like "a moment," so what's the big deal?

I actually liked the scene wit Gabi/Chad/Ari & Julie/Jen/JJ. LOVED the look Julie as giving Gabi....lol I like the Gabi/JJ scene (except for that whole Selena Gomez bit. Stereotype, much?) I even liked Lucas and Adrianne. I liked seeing Sonny & Adrianne together, but the dialogue was hideous
They were wearing costumes and masks, so I assume Paul went unrecognized.
actually Sonny said...at least I was wearing a mask, I was assuming Paul wasn't.

Sonny obviously wants to be with Paul, I got that first thing when he arrived back in town and his mother asked...does Paul know your back??
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did anyone find it strange that jj was on a ventilator one minute and the next had just a oxygen mask on
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After watching this episode I would say that AZ and VI performed very well. I do not like Deimos and Nicole as a couple but the actors rocked those fighting scenes. Chad and gabi have lots of chemistry. I find myself enjoying their scenes and wanting to watch more. Paul pushing away from Sonny just as Sonny is realizing he has feelings for Paul is soap opera gold. I love throwing in Derrick as the interloper. I have a feeling Derrick will cause trouble for Paulson and I'm here for that! Have been on the Paulson bandwagon since I first saw them in a scene together.
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lysie


Another terrible episode.

I liked the Lucas/Jennifer moment. That's it.
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Oct 23 2016, 01:39 PM
After watching this episode I would say that AZ and VI performed very well. I do not like Deimos and Nicole as a couple but the actors rocked those fighting scenes. Chad and gabi have lots of chemistry. I find myself enjoying their scenes and wanting to watch more. Paul pushing away from Sonny just as Sonny is realizing he has feelings for Paul is soap opera gold. I love throwing in Derrick as the interloper. I have a feeling Derrick will cause trouble for Paulson and I'm here for that! Have been on the Paulson bandwagon since I first saw them in a scene together.
It's kind of ironic for me having to like Derrick in any way. He is so NOT a rootable character for me, considering he set up Will to get caught and put Sonny at the wrong place at the wrong time to be stabbed and doesn't know how to keep his big mouth shut.

But...I suppose he can make it up to Will by being with Paul and keeping him away from Sonny. This whole triangle is so off putting though in so many ways. :shame:
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Oct 22 2016, 09:47 AM
Deimos and Nicole:

Nicole butted her head in the situation and then kept butting her head in. She wouldn't even have a secret to tell if she hadn't forced the truth out of Chloe that Deimos was the father. And then she took that information and just sat on it for no clear reason at all besides promising Chloe she wouldn't tell. And she really didn't seem the least bit guilty about knowing in her interactions with Deimos. And then, after promising Chloe a promise she wouldn't even have made if she hadn't gotten involved, she decided to break Chloe's trust for Deimos, whom she was already lying to, and then wanted a cookie for finally telling the truth.

I love Nicole and Deimos is a hypocritical ass, but I don't understand why Nicole thinks "eventually" telling the truth is most important and I can't believe she pretty much is blindsiding Chloe about breaking her trust. Especially since this is exactly why Chloe didn't want to confide in Nicole in the first place, but Nicole kept reassuring her that her concerns were unfounded and that Chloe could count on her. She's been saying for months she wanted to take things slow and was growing closer to Deimos, so why even agree to keep the secret in the first place? None of Nicole's actions make sense in this storyline and honestly, everything she has done has been a wrong move in my opinion, starting with getting involved with a man she believed her best friend had a right to keep away from his kid out of fear in the first place. Who the hell does that? Why would that be the kind of person you wanted to be with in the first place?

Bottom line, in my opinion, Nicole has been wrong from start to finish.
My guess - Nicole's had a lot of experience with secrets ruining her relationships.

She might have felt the relationship with Deimos was heading in a better direction and she didn't want this relationship ruined by a secret.


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Oct 23 2016, 04:16 PM
anzu
Oct 22 2016, 09:47 AM
Deimos and Nicole:

Nicole butted her head in the situation and then kept butting her head in. She wouldn't even have a secret to tell if she hadn't forced the truth out of Chloe that Deimos was the father. And then she took that information and just sat on it for no clear reason at all besides promising Chloe she wouldn't tell. And she really didn't seem the least bit guilty about knowing in her interactions with Deimos. And then, after promising Chloe a promise she wouldn't even have made if she hadn't gotten involved, she decided to break Chloe's trust for Deimos, whom she was already lying to, and then wanted a cookie for finally telling the truth.

I love Nicole and Deimos is a hypocritical ass, but I don't understand why Nicole thinks "eventually" telling the truth is most important and I can't believe she pretty much is blindsiding Chloe about breaking her trust. Especially since this is exactly why Chloe didn't want to confide in Nicole in the first place, but Nicole kept reassuring her that her concerns were unfounded and that Chloe could count on her. She's been saying for months she wanted to take things slow and was growing closer to Deimos, so why even agree to keep the secret in the first place? None of Nicole's actions make sense in this storyline and honestly, everything she has done has been a wrong move in my opinion, starting with getting involved with a man she believed her best friend had a right to keep away from his kid out of fear in the first place. Who the hell does that? Why would that be the kind of person you wanted to be with in the first place?

Bottom line, in my opinion, Nicole has been wrong from start to finish.
My guess - Nicole's had a lot of experience with secrets ruining her relationships.

She might have felt the relationship with Deimos was heading in a better direction and she didn't want this relationship ruined by a secret.


I can see that... except then why start it off with a secret in the first place if you know how secrets blow up in your face? She'd already decided Chloe's confidence was more important than her relationship with Deimos while trying to build a relationship with Deimos who she insisted she couldn't trust/somewhat feared. Why even try to be with him then? I can't sympathize with her at all in this situation because she contradicts her every move with her next move.

And like... at least tell Chloe friend to friend that you are going to blow her out the water first instead of relying on an answering machine. That was just rude. Like she said, she knew since August. What's the rush now :shrug:
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Oct 21 2016, 04:20 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 04:15 PM
I don't understand why dumb Brady forgive Theresa for horrible things she did to John and Xander, but Deimos can't forgive Nicole? Oh I forgot, Nicole has to suffer and Theresa gets kisses and attention. :drunk:
Pretty disgusting,right?
It doesn't have anything to do with Nicole and Theresa. It's the fact that Brady and Deimos are two different people. Brady is not my favorite person and he annoys me at times, but he's not a bad person and does have empathy. He knew that even if Xander was not guilty of attacking Theresa, he was guilty of terrorizing and trying to kill Eric and Nicole, and he got off of that on a technicality. Deimos is a class act jerk and what he said to Nicole was unforgivable. He needs to go join his nephew Xander in Greece, whom he lied to everybody was dead but he actually helped him escape.
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

anzu
Oct 23 2016, 07:22 PM
concerned
Oct 23 2016, 04:16 PM
anzu
Oct 22 2016, 09:47 AM
Deimos and Nicole:

Nicole butted her head in the situation and then kept butting her head in. She wouldn't even have a secret to tell if she hadn't forced the truth out of Chloe that Deimos was the father. And then she took that information and just sat on it for no clear reason at all besides promising Chloe she wouldn't tell. And she really didn't seem the least bit guilty about knowing in her interactions with Deimos. And then, after promising Chloe a promise she wouldn't even have made if she hadn't gotten involved, she decided to break Chloe's trust for Deimos, whom she was already lying to, and then wanted a cookie for finally telling the truth.

I love Nicole and Deimos is a hypocritical ass, but I don't understand why Nicole thinks "eventually" telling the truth is most important and I can't believe she pretty much is blindsiding Chloe about breaking her trust. Especially since this is exactly why Chloe didn't want to confide in Nicole in the first place, but Nicole kept reassuring her that her concerns were unfounded and that Chloe could count on her. She's been saying for months she wanted to take things slow and was growing closer to Deimos, so why even agree to keep the secret in the first place? None of Nicole's actions make sense in this storyline and honestly, everything she has done has been a wrong move in my opinion, starting with getting involved with a man she believed her best friend had a right to keep away from his kid out of fear in the first place. Who the hell does that? Why would that be the kind of person you wanted to be with in the first place?

Bottom line, in my opinion, Nicole has been wrong from start to finish.
My guess - Nicole's had a lot of experience with secrets ruining her relationships.

She might have felt the relationship with Deimos was heading in a better direction and she didn't want this relationship ruined by a secret.


I can see that... except then why start it off with a secret in the first place if you know how secrets blow up in your face? She'd already decided Chloe's confidence was more important than her relationship with Deimos while trying to build a relationship with Deimos who she insisted she couldn't trust/somewhat feared. Why even try to be with him then? I can't sympathize with her at all in this situation because she contradicts her every move with her next move.

And like... at least tell Chloe friend to friend that you are going to blow her out the water first instead of relying on an answering machine. That was just rude. Like she said, she knew since August. What's the rush now :shrug:
They have shown Nicole desperately trying to get in touch with Chloe every day since she left for NY. Chloe never picked up the phone. Nicole has tried very hard to reach her and she's left messages and sent texts all along the way telling Chloe that she couldn't keep lying and was going to tell Deimos. The only response was the sound of crickets chirping from Chloe.

So, did Chloe ignore her or is she somewhere she can't use her phone? Who knows.
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