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Friday, October 21st Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 20 2016, 06:07 PM (10,469 Views)
trojangal
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i really liked Jen's scenes at the hospital today
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Since EM says Brady "doesn't stay single long", I wonder if we are going to get a Bricole reunion for a little bit? I say, BRING IT ON!
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Oct 21 2016, 03:47 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 03:12 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 03:07 PM

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The reporter told them it was someone at the hotel, didn't he? Who else would it have been but Derrick. Paul suggested it was him and knowing that Derrick had previously blabbed things he shouldn't lead me to believe it was him that spoke to the reporter. I assumed that was what we were supposed to take from it anyway.

And it didn't make any sense to me when it wasn't a problem for them last year either. :shrug:
AND: Derrick got all that info from Will that he used to get close to Paul (the stuff about Paul's dream of playing catch with his dad) & Paul was pissed at the time that Will gave him the personal info about Paul (Not that it was anything worth getting upset about)& that Derrick used it.

And the bellboy is now an administrative assistant at the hospital???

Just seems ridiculous to bring him back.

One small detail: In their previous backstory, one of Sonny's issues (& supposedly the reason it didn't work) was that Paul would never go out in public with Sonny, they only met in his hotel room. Now, they hug out together Comicon???? Oh & btw, this is my BIG problem with PaulSon & my lack of interest or investment: We've been TOLD they were in love & had some great affair. We never saw it. Storytelling 101 Ms. Higley: SHOW, DON"T TELL. Paul told Derrick Sonny needs to move on to something that has nothing to do with his past and I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

Today's whole ep was a bit melodramatic & blown out of proportion: Deimos thinks Nicole is his "soulmate?" I literally spit out my drink at that one. Sonny wants to talk about the "Moment we shared"? Holding hands while Paul bled? It wasn't like they almost kissed, or almost confessed their feelings or or or.... almost anything. It didn't really feel like "a moment," so what's the big deal?

I actually liked the scene wit Gabi/Chad/Ari & Julie/Jen/JJ. LOVED the look Julie as giving Gabi....lol I like the Gabi/JJ scene (except for that whole Selena Gomez bit. Stereotype, much?) I even liked Lucas and Adrianne. I liked seeing Sonny & Adrianne together, but the dialogue was hideous
They were wearing costumes and masks, so I assume Paul went unrecognized.
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Oct 21 2016, 04:45 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 04:40 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 04:32 PM

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Here's my complaint: we see Gabi with Chad all the time in contrast to the lack of scenes she is getting with her boyfriend for almost a year.
Okay. I agree in terms of everything from before a couple of months ago. JJ and Gabi were afterthoughts at best, although we didn't see Gabi with Chad then.

Since then, we know JJ's been out of town and then fairly consumed with the villains crisis. We did see them together in the hotel room when JJ was off shift. And yes, Chad and Gabi have spent a lot of time together, but as plot-y as it might be, there is an explanation for it beyond "they just can't stay away from each other."
It's too heavy handed to me. I really don't like Gabi spending all this time with Chad in wake of her getting mad at JJ for not texting her enough while he was looking for his sister's body. If I was JJ I would be upset with Gabi spending all this time bonding with Chad. He treats her a lot better than she treats him. I mentioned in a previous post that some of the things Chad and Gabi are doing go beyond a normal friendship to me. I know others disagree but that's my opinion.
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A Carolyn Culliton episode today
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Oct 21 2016, 04:57 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 04:45 PM
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Okay. I agree in terms of everything from before a couple of months ago. JJ and Gabi were afterthoughts at best, although we didn't see Gabi with Chad then.

Since then, we know JJ's been out of town and then fairly consumed with the villains crisis. We did see them together in the hotel room when JJ was off shift. And yes, Chad and Gabi have spent a lot of time together, but as plot-y as it might be, there is an explanation for it beyond "they just can't stay away from each other."
It's too heavy handed to me. I really don't like Gabi spending all this time with Chad in wake of her getting mad at JJ for not texting her enough while he was looking for his sister's body. If I was JJ I would be upset with Gabi spending all this time bonding with Chad. He treats her a lot better than she treats him. I mentioned in a previous post that some of the things Chad and Gabi are doing go beyond a normal friendship to me. I know others disagree but that's my opinion.
Of course it's heavy handed, it's Dena. And I have a hunch that JJ's being nice because he's got his own guilt trip about something.

But, I do disagree about a "normal" friendship, at least so far.
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And Julie is on today as well!? Yay :)

Looking forward to see Jennifer/JJ/Julie/Lucas/Chad/Gabi

Rest sounds really...zzz
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Oct 21 2016, 04:51 PM
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AND: Derrick got all that info from Will that he used to get close to Paul (the stuff about Paul's dream of playing catch with his dad) & Paul was pissed at the time that Will gave him the personal info about Paul (Not that it was anything worth getting upset about)& that Derrick used it.

And the bellboy is now an administrative assistant at the hospital???

Just seems ridiculous to bring him back.

One small detail: In their previous backstory, one of Sonny's issues (& supposedly the reason it didn't work) was that Paul would never go out in public with Sonny, they only met in his hotel room. Now, they hug out together Comicon???? Oh & btw, this is my BIG problem with PaulSon & my lack of interest or investment: We've been TOLD they were in love & had some great affair. We never saw it. Storytelling 101 Ms. Higley: SHOW, DON"T TELL. Paul told Derrick Sonny needs to move on to something that has nothing to do with his past and I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

Today's whole ep was a bit melodramatic & blown out of proportion: Deimos thinks Nicole is his "soulmate?" I literally spit out my drink at that one. Sonny wants to talk about the "Moment we shared"? Holding hands while Paul bled? It wasn't like they almost kissed, or almost confessed their feelings or or or.... almost anything. It didn't really feel like "a moment," so what's the big deal?

I actually liked the scene wit Gabi/Chad/Ari & Julie/Jen/JJ. LOVED the look Julie as giving Gabi....lol I like the Gabi/JJ scene (except for that whole Selena Gomez bit. Stereotype, much?) I even liked Lucas and Adrianne. I liked seeing Sonny & Adrianne together, but the dialogue was hideous
They were wearing costumes and masks, so I assume Paul went unrecognized.
The way I understand it now is that they hung out in public as friends but never as a couple.
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Oct 21 2016, 04:51 PM
Since EM says Brady "doesn't stay single long", I wonder if we are going to get a Bricole reunion for a little bit? I say, BRING IT ON!
I was sure it was going to be Broe, but after today I think it could be Bricole, just in time for Eric to return, and Chloe temporarily with Deimos.
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Oct 21 2016, 03:58 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 03:39 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 03:34 PM
It's ridiculous Chad is spending all this time with Ari instead of JJ and Sonny. It seems like Gabi wasn't with a JJ long before she left the hospital. What's wrong with her staying at the hospital? When did Chad appoint himself Gabi's watchdog?
Jennifer told Julie that Gabi was with JJ all night. From what I read, it sounded like Chad was just getting Gabi to take a break.

Personally, I think Chad is acting like a good friend. I've seen nothing that indicates he views Gabi as anything other than that. Or that Gabi sees it differently.
You might be right, but these constant scenes of Chad, Gabi, and Ari bonding? We never saw that with JJ. I'm cynical, but it's hard for to buy they are just being friends spending all this time together, falling asleep on the couch together, and on Wednesday, Chad cupping her face like he used to do with Abby.
I kinda agree. Chad seems really happy when he's with her and he told Lucas he's at a good place now and I think it's because of Gabi. I am positive when Gabi finds out what JJ's sorry for, they'll end up in bed.
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Oct 21 2016, 05:03 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 04:51 PM
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They were wearing costumes and masks, so I assume Paul went unrecognized.
The way I understand it now is that they hung out in public as friends but never as a couple.
Both of those explanations work, as far as I'm concerned. I didn't really find the discussion to be inconsistent with what we already knew. I remember Paul talking about wanting to take Sonny out to dinner, hold his hand, etc, but those are pretty distinctly date/couple things to do. In addition to being disguised with the costume, you can wander around at at a comic convention without people thinking you're a couple anyway.
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Lovejm
Oct 21 2016, 03:50 PM
I do like when Lucas and Jennifer are on together.
Me too.
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Oct 21 2016, 04:32 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 04:11 PM
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I was talking about her spending the night at JJ's side. Sounds like she spent more time with Chad today, but I haven't watched yet. I'm going off the PBP.
So are you saying that because we didn't see Gabi at JJ's side all night it didn't happen? Otherwise, I guess I'm confused. Yes, she spent time with Chad today and thanked him for getting her to take a break from the hospital. She also talked about JJ and Chad said he'd doing anything to help JJ because he was Abby's brother.

I get that you don't like where you think it's going. That's fine. But my comments are about what is actually showing onscreen, not what the implications might be down the line. I haven't seen anything that I think is "crossing the line" at this point. It might happen tomorrow, or two weeks from now. Or never. But, IMO, it hasn't happened yet.
I don't think anything has to happen for it to be quite apparent what's happening btw them. And it doesn't have to be kissing or anything sexual either.

Just in the past month we've had:

-Chad trying on clothes for Gabi, lots of awkwardness
-Chad and Gabi on the couch having a moment of awkward sexual tension
-Nakedness and sweating in a closed small space, lots of bonding
-On the couch with Ari, he put his arm around her and held her while they slept ---who does that unless you feel very close to that person?
-Today Chad being thoughtful enough to take her to lunch

I mean, this is how most triangles get started.

Personally, I hope there is something happening btw Chad and Gabi by the time Abby comes back because otherwise there's no real story. I don't think at all that Gabi and Chad would end up together, it would just be angst for Chad and Abby.
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Oct 21 2016, 05:48 PM
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So are you saying that because we didn't see Gabi at JJ's side all night it didn't happen? Otherwise, I guess I'm confused. Yes, she spent time with Chad today and thanked him for getting her to take a break from the hospital. She also talked about JJ and Chad said he'd doing anything to help JJ because he was Abby's brother.

I get that you don't like where you think it's going. That's fine. But my comments are about what is actually showing onscreen, not what the implications might be down the line. I haven't seen anything that I think is "crossing the line" at this point. It might happen tomorrow, or two weeks from now. Or never. But, IMO, it hasn't happened yet.
I don't think anything has to happen for it to be quite apparent what's happening btw them. And it doesn't have to be kissing or anything sexual either.

Just in the past month we've had:

-Chad trying on clothes for Gabi, lots of awkwardness
-Chad and Gabi on the couch having a moment of awkward sexual tension
-Nakedness and sweating in a closed small space, lots of bonding
-On the couch with Ari, he put his arm around her and held her while they slept ---who does that unless you feel very close to that person?
-Today Chad being thoughtful enough to take her to lunch

I mean, this is how most triangles get started.

Personally, I hope there is something happening btw Chad and Gabi by the time Abby comes back because otherwise there's no real story. I don't think at all that Gabi and Chad would end up together, it would just be angst for Chad and Abby.
I know that's how most triangles start. And this is probably going there. But right now, it's not there. That's my whole point. If it gets there and is poorly developed which, because this is Dena, is almost a certainty, then I'll probably join in all the bitching about it.

But, IMO, it's not there yet. It's heavy-handed (again, Dena) but - to me - it's still within the parameters of a friendship and I haven't felt anything more.
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Oct 21 2016, 05:03 PM
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Oct 21 2016, 04:51 PM
Since EM says Brady "doesn't stay single long", I wonder if we are going to get a Bricole reunion for a little bit? I say, BRING IT ON!
I was sure it was going to be Broe, but after today I think it could be Bricole, just in time for Eric to return, and Chloe temporarily with Deimos.
Some of the scenes between Brady, Nicole, and Deimos recently have made me wonder if they're going back to Bricole. I would like it.
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Oct 20 2016, 06:07 PM
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Nicole reveals to Deimos that Chloe is indeed carrying his child.

Chad tells Adrienne and Lucas he’s ready to take care of Thomas on his own.

Jennifer is curious when she hears JJ murmuring in his sleep.

Sonny tries to talk to Paul about the "moment" they shared, but a face from Paul's past interrupts them.


Let's TALK!
OT but I LOVED that little baby who played ickle JJ. Just the cutest little thing. Loved Missy's bangs like that too. Ashley and Matt had a sweet dynamic, I wish I could see that with their characters again *sigh*

Looking forward to checking out the episode tomorrow.
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I'm happy that Spencer Neville is back. I hope it's for more than just today. He's nice to look at and I think he has decent chemistry with CS. I don't understand why most of you think it's too early to bring in a third party for PaulSon. Have you forgotten that Paul has been trapped in the friend zone with Sonny for 18 straight months? I'm actually disappointed that they had Derrick advocating for PaulSon to reunite. I think the better story would be for Paul to date Derrick again in order to get over his romantic feelings for Sonny. At least Paul could get some action down-under for a change.
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Oct 21 2016, 01:27 PM
This episode way way better than yesterday but still predictable. I don't like Nicole/Deimos at all and hated the stuff he said to her but I liked see shades of the Nicole I know and love come out. She threw back in his face the stuff he lied about and she slapped him with those comments about her not being good enough to be a mother. You could just see the pain as she brought up her 2 miscarriages. Ari sold that part.

The rest was decent. I like Paul/Sonny but I admit I'm frustrated they feel the need to insert a 3rd party-Derrick so soon. He's adorable but from today I'm unsure of his purpose. I did like Sonny's talk with Adrienne though.

The hospital also seemed predictable starting with Gabi watching JJ to leaving to have lunch with Chad/Ari to the end when JJ murmured Gabi's name and that he was sorry. We have no idea what for. I did love all of Jen's scenes with Julie and Lucas. I thought Julie's scenes were way better utilized today than yesterday.
I think Derek is going to be the one to get Paul and Sonny together. He told Paul he saw the way Sonny looked at Paul, and when Paul said Sonny Said he only wanted to be friends, Derek said "sometimes people say things they don't reAlly mean."
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Oct 21 2016, 06:34 PM
I'm happy that Spencer Neville is back. I hope it's for more than just today. He's nice to look at and I think he has decent chemistry with CS. I don't understand why most of you think it's too early to bring in a third party for PaulSon. Have you forgotten that Paul has been trapped in the friend zone with Sonny for 18 straight months? I'm actually disappointed that they had Derrick advocating for PaulSon to reunite. I think the better story would be for Paul to date Derrick again in order to get over his romantic feelings for Sonny. At least Paul could get some action down-under for a change.
I agree as far as Paul is concerned. I mean he's basically been celibate since he slept with the bellboy the last time. Ok. There was the date with the photog...but thats part of the problem with the Paul/PaulSons story: Way too much is happening off camera, or in the past, or we're being told it happened. Or we're making guesses or assuming ("Well, I assume they went out in public as friends..." etcetc). We've actually seen NOTHING.

I've actually liked their recent scenes much better than the last time, but this one today felt really awkward (the weird pauses in the convo which I guess (and again I'm GUESSING) was supposed to be tension), tho' I still don't see the chemistry others see.

Paul said something a while back about how he hoped that Sonny getting more involved in his family didn't put them on opposite sides (the day Paul was babysitting Claire). Actually, I think that's just what this couple needs: Something that pulls them apart & puts the at opposites (which with give some build up time), but eventually they come together.

Basically, I need a story I actually watch & feel invested in rather than them telling me what happened or assuming something happened off camera.
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Today was good. The Nicole/Deimos scenes has me very interested in the baby story. I need someone to kick Deimos' ass now. I prefer Eric do it, but I'll take Brady! I'm glad it appears that Nicole/Deimos are done. I hope it stays that way. He was such as ass today! I like him better this way. But I'm also disgusted by him. What he said to Nicole was so ridiculous! I just really need someone to kick his ass! I just really do!
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