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| Spoilers for the week of October 31st; Updated | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 21 2016, 11:21 PM (41,245 Views) | |
| Penelope Kent | Oct 29 2016, 02:03 AM Post #521 |
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Ugh. Enough. I'm having a hard time finding most of these spoilers exciting because so many of the storylines have been run into the ground. Hope's secret comes out? Cool, let's get this over with. Deimos hogs too much screentime trying to find out about Chloe? Didn't need spoilers to know that was gonna happen. By the time any of this gets interesting I'm the one who's gonna be in one of Orpheus' coffins. Any excitement I had about Shane & Kimberly in the spoilers is immediately gone upon reading Theresa's name. I mean I understand why she's their focus but can't she just like...not ruin a character's return for once? :rolleyes: I'll give her Eve and Shane/Kimberly but I want Kristen's baby/Theresa involvement back. :lol: I see Orpheus is in the Halloween spirit, lol. Putting Marlena & Kayla in coffins with a plan to set them on fire? Very '70s horror. Lol I can see him making a snarky joke about claustrophobia. Also I like what Deidre said about J&M. I appreciate the fact that since '86, John protecting/saving her (and vice versa) is second nature rather than a victim thing. |
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| Penelope Kent | Oct 29 2016, 02:15 AM Post #522 |
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Seriously, ugh. WTF is this? I'm still waiting for Deimos to prove he's not an asshole first. :coffee: "Nicole's subtext is, 'We all want this to end'" I don't even care about the real context of that quote because all I can think is "yea, we do." :eyeroll: |
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| KLK | Oct 29 2016, 06:47 AM Post #523 |
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Nicole owes Deimos nothing, and she's crazy to get back with him, but I do think Chloe should settle this so that she can move on. She is letting Nicole think Deimos is the father because she's hiding from Nicole the real paternity, imo. So Josh was going to make this a Chloe/Deimos baby? How boring, and who would have cared? |
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| thepadange | Oct 29 2016, 07:26 AM Post #524 |
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Well, I'm not sure which is worse - Deimo's baby or an eggBaby? |
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| KLK | Oct 29 2016, 07:29 AM Post #525 |
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Well I'm in the minority, but I want Nicole to be a mother, of her own bio baby. I don't want it to happen this way, and I really don't want Daniel to be the father, but I'm not convinced he is. Chloe/Deimos having a child together I have less interest in than the Thrady baby. If it's Chloe's, it needs to be with someone that the viewers care about, like Philip or Brady, someone that Chloe has a history with. Edited by KLK, Oct 29 2016, 07:30 AM.
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| thepadange | Oct 29 2016, 07:58 AM Post #526 |
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I agree Brady or Philip (or Shawn) would be better alternatives. Btw, Maybe Rope will want to adopt Joey and Jade's baby :blulaugh: ? |
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| KLK | Oct 29 2016, 08:03 AM Post #527 |
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I'm already on the fence regarding this story, I don't think I could deal if Rope became involved but Rafe's "I want to be a father" scares me. :scared: |
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| Supergirlx2 | Oct 29 2016, 10:43 AM Post #528 |
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The Voldy article says that Hope is determined to keep Rafe & Roman's roles secret. :rolleyes: |
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| Supergirlx2 | Oct 29 2016, 10:45 AM Post #529 |
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I wonder how Rafe feels about becoming a step-grandfather if he ever marries Hope. Lol. |
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| ICan'tWithTrump | Oct 29 2016, 11:57 AM Post #530 |
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I'm ready for a spoiler that says "Deimos proves HIS loyalty to Nicole". Cuz it's not on all the women to prove their loyalty all the time |
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| Kiki | Oct 29 2016, 12:16 PM Post #531 |
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Hope should have hit menopause by now. They can pretend she's 30, but she's not. |
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| Puppyfan | Oct 29 2016, 12:25 PM Post #532 |
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So they decided to bury Eduardo also by placing him with Deimos. Ugh so now I have to stop watching Eduardo as well. |
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| Supergirlx2 | Oct 29 2016, 12:36 PM Post #533 |
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Even if Hope had had Shawn at 16 & Belle had had Claire at 16, Claire being 18 means that Hope can't be anything less than 50. Of course, that fact isn't stopping Dena from having Hope & Rafe written like they're teenagers in love or something like that. (I didn't mind that Hope & Rafe mentioned having bucket lists, but the stuff on their lists sounded like they wrote them for a high school project, &, like with everything else, what was on Rafe's list got more focus than what was on Hope's, and then his points got mentioned again on Friday.) I've said this before, but I'll say it again because I can: I distinctly remember Kristian being asked if she thought Hope would have anymore kids after Ciara & she said no & called Ciara Bope's miracle baby after losing Zack & then hinted at the fact that Hope's getting to that age where she shouldn't be having more children (though she didn't go as far as to say that it was time for the next generation to to be the ones having kids). I guess, technically, though, Rafe was brought on to be part of that "childbearing age" group. But if TPTB want us to pretend like Rafe's ex-girlfriends aren't a bunch of woman who were either kids/infants or not even born when Hope was falling in love with Bo, then they need to write Rafe & Hope like they're beyond having children. If Hope went through a ton of trouble to adopt a kid for Rafe (cause we're just gonna throw the whole "Hope gets pregnant" option out the window because it's so ridiculous), do any of us really expect that we would see Rafe would give up his job & play full-time daddy to this kid? I surely don't. Rafe is too much of an alpha male to become a stay-at-home dad. Besides which, if he did that, he wouldn't be able to keep such a close eye on Hope as he has with them working together. Edited by Supergirlx2, Oct 29 2016, 12:37 PM.
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| GoneGirl | Oct 29 2016, 12:52 PM Post #534 |
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I need to read the entire thread. You guys are scaring me! Rope having or adopting a baby is legitimate spec? :o
Edited by GoneGirl, Oct 29 2016, 12:52 PM.
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| Supergirlx2 | Oct 29 2016, 01:32 PM Post #535 |
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Yes & no. We're going off of the fact that, on Wednesday's episode, Rafe expressed how he always wished he would become a father & that he knows that that's probably not gonna happen now. And it seemed like a really random serious thing to put in the middle of his wanting to go to Egypt to ride camels & throw out the first pitch at a Cubbies World Series game if it wasn't intended to be an anvil for a future event. (I doubt the point was simply to have Hope state the 2 times we saw Rafe & Ciara interacting & Rafe "teaching" Ciara something.) If TPTB hadn't had Rafe mention his desire to be a father, this whole discussion wouldn't be happening. |
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| DesignatedShelley | Oct 29 2016, 01:51 PM Post #536 |
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I wish they would write Hope and Rafe's "age difference" into their actual dialogue and dynamic. I use quotes because the difference between their ages is the same as the difference between KA's and PR's ages. Still, it just sticks out in my head that Rafe used to be in love with Hope's niece. I know Hope is almost a generation younger than Roman and, of course, SORAS, but I still don't mentally group her with Rafe, Nicole, Sami, etc. Lucas may be her cousin, but he's younger than Jennifer who's younger than Hope. And Hope was a married woman when Sami et all were in high school. I don't have a problem with inter-generational romances especially as people get older, but I wish they would just acknowledge it. Rafe referring to some movie Hope doesn't know, or vice versa, someone teasing Hope about robbing the cradle, anything like that. Someone recently mentioned how Marlena once told a joke that Don used to take her to the park the way he now takes his daughter which sounds like a good example of what I'd like; it's not that it has to be a problem, but you'd think it would just come out now and then. |
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| Supergirlx2 | Oct 29 2016, 02:02 PM Post #537 |
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They won't mention Hope & Rafe's age difference because they've "unofficially" SORASed Rafe to make him closer in age with Hope. From my understanding, Rafe was always supposed to be a bit older than Sami, but that would make him Carrie's age, not Hope's. And Hope & Carrie are a good 10 years apart in age (at least based on their ages in the 80s). But now we're supposed to believe that Hope & Rafe are close in age & that their age difference is negligible & thus not worth commenting on. No one pretended like Bo wasn't older than Hope (though the age difference got narrowed in the 90s). But with Hope & Rafe, I'm almost convinced that TPTB are trying to make Rafe older than Hope - at least that's what it appears given how Rafe talks to Hope & treats her like a child at times. If they had wanted to make note of the fact that Rafe is younger than Hope, they could've had Hope bring up how good of a father-figure Rafe was with Johnny & Allie. |
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| lysie | Oct 29 2016, 02:03 PM Post #538 |
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I feel like there's a disconnect somewhere with the actors and characters. I do think we tend to be a little rigid with the age groups, but like you said, when you see someone as a teen on the show while someone else is a married adult, it stands out when you suddenly have them as peers. Even in the real world, there are things that come up where they are age differences like that. ED and EM used to seem to get offended when people would bring up their age difference, and they both missed the point that their literal age difference almost didn't even matter. Their characters are what mattered, and her character was once a mother figure to his character...and also was once engaged to his father's character (part of the story). They'd get offended and tend to think it was sexist, and while there are probably some undertones of that, ultimately I don't think that's what it was about. There also seems to be a point where everyone just gets thrown into the same age group. "The vets" have 20-40 years separating many of them, but for some reason, they're all considered one group. Meanwhile, some of the vets are only like 5 years older than some of the people we don't "bless" with that title. And then you have weird age differences where you have characters like Lucas and Adrienne who really aren't that far apart in age, but for some reason because of the way they've been split into groups by the show, it feels to some of us like they're decades apart (I'm exaggerating). Age differences happen. Acknowledge them. The rest of us do. I think if they'd acknowledge it, a lot of things would feel less awkward. |
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| lysie | Oct 29 2016, 02:08 PM Post #539 |
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I don't think they're pretending anything about their ages. It's not referenced. |
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| Supergirlx2 | Oct 29 2016, 02:12 PM Post #540 |
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Rafe mentioned being in high school in the 80s & how Hope would never see his yearbook (because he didn't have one) when they looked through her fake (cause the Hope in it doesn't match the Hope we saw in the 80s) one. I think it's the only time any reference to their ages was made, but it definitely indicated that they're supposed to be close in age. |
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