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Spoilers for the week of October 31st; Updated
Topic Started: Oct 21 2016, 11:21 PM (41,244 Views)
lysie


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Oct 29 2016, 02:12 PM
lysie
Oct 29 2016, 02:08 PM
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Oct 29 2016, 02:02 PM

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I don't think they're pretending anything about their ages. It's not referenced.
Rafe mentioned being in high school in the 80s & how Hope would never see his yearbook (because he didn't have one) when they looked through her fake (cause the Hope in it doesn't match the Hope we saw in the 80s) one. I think it's the only time any reference to their ages was made, but it definitely indicated that they're supposed to be close in age.
Right....but I don't think that's different from what we were already supposed to think about Rafe. You were suggesting that was a change.
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lysie
Oct 29 2016, 02:08 PM
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Oct 29 2016, 01:51 PM
I wish they would write Hope and Rafe's "age difference" into their actual dialogue and dynamic. I use quotes because the difference between their ages is the same as the difference between KA's and PR's ages. Still, it just sticks out in my head that Rafe used to be in love with Hope's niece. I know Hope is almost a generation younger than Roman and, of course, SORAS, but I still don't mentally group her with Rafe, Nicole, Sami, etc. Lucas may be her cousin, but he's younger than Jennifer who's younger than Hope. And Hope was a married woman when Sami et all were in high school. I don't have a problem with inter-generational romances especially as people get older, but I wish they would just acknowledge it. Rafe referring to some movie Hope doesn't know, or vice versa, someone teasing Hope about robbing the cradle, anything like that. Someone recently mentioned how Marlena once told a joke that Don used to take her to the park the way he now takes his daughter which sounds like a good example of what I'd like; it's not that it has to be a problem, but you'd think it would just come out now and then.
They won't mention Hope & Rafe's age difference because they've "unofficially" SORASed Rafe to make him closer in age with Hope. From my understanding, Rafe was always supposed to be a bit older than Sami, but that would make him Carrie's age, not Hope's. And Hope & Carrie are a good 10 years apart in age (at least based on their ages in the 80s). But now we're supposed to believe that Hope & Rafe are close in age & that their age difference is negligible & thus not worth commenting on. No one pretended like Bo wasn't older than Hope (though the age difference got narrowed in the 90s). But with Hope & Rafe, I'm almost convinced that TPTB are trying to make Rafe older than Hope - at least that's what it appears given how Rafe talks to Hope & treats her like a child at times.
If they had wanted to make note of the fact that Rafe is younger than Hope, they could've had Hope bring up how good of a father-figure Rafe was with Johnny & Allie.
I don't think they're pretending anything about their ages. It's not referenced.
The lack of reference to the Rafe/Hope age difference, whatever it may be, doesn't really bug me for a few reasons. First, we didn't see Rafe grow up in town, so we have no past reference (i.e. no scenes of teenaged Hope holding baby Rafe or anything).

Second, they've never established how old Rafe is supposed to be. He was paired with Sami, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything as far as age goes. I figure he's roughly her age, but if her were 5-7 years older, the gap between he and Hope isn't any bigger than the gap between Hope and Bo or Steve and Kayla.

Third, their characters don't seem to be substantially different in age. It's not like Rafe is in college or something. He's a cop and former FBI agent who had a career before he showed up in Salem. He was married to a woman who is now a grandmother.

So, there may be a gap, but it's not significant in my mind.
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Oct 29 2016, 02:08 PM
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I don't think they're pretending anything about their ages. It's not referenced.
Rafe mentioned being in high school in the 80s & how Hope would never see his yearbook (because he didn't have one) when they looked through her fake (cause the Hope in it doesn't match the Hope we saw in the 80s) one. I think it's the only time any reference to their ages was made, but it definitely indicated that they're supposed to be close in age.
LOL, wow. I always assumed that Rafe was quite close in age to Sami. I didn't watch many Safe scenes but it was relevant that his youngest sister was the same age as her oldest son. Okay, Sami was a teen when Will was born... not that weird for there to be a 15 or 18 year age gap between the Hernandez siblings. But if Rafe has a decade or more on Sami, there's closer to a thirty year spread between Rafe and Gabi. Poor Mama Hernandez. That's a lot of time to be raising kids... not that she did much raising of them apparently.
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lysie
Oct 29 2016, 02:15 PM
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Rafe mentioned being in high school in the 80s & how Hope would never see his yearbook (because he didn't have one) when they looked through her fake (cause the Hope in it doesn't match the Hope we saw in the 80s) one. I think it's the only time any reference to their ages was made, but it definitely indicated that they're supposed to be close in age.
Right....but I don't think that's different from what we were already supposed to think about Rafe. You were suggesting that was a change.
Hope was 18 in 1983 or '84, right? If Rafe was in high school in the 80's, then he could be about 5 years younger than Hope. And about 7 years older than Sami. Neither age difference is big enough, or has any kind historical reference, to be a big deal.
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esp13
Oct 29 2016, 03:08 PM
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Oct 29 2016, 02:15 PM
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Right....but I don't think that's different from what we were already supposed to think about Rafe. You were suggesting that was a change.
Hope was 18 in 1983 or '84, right? If Rafe was in high school in the 80's, then he could be about 5 years younger than Hope. And about 7 years older than Sami. Neither age difference is big enough, or has any kind historical reference, to be a big deal.
The problem with that for me is that Hope has to be at least in her mid fifties, based on the presumed ages of Shawn and Claire.

I don't care about Hope being 5 or 10 or however many years older than Rafe, but I agree with an earlier poster that I think it should be addressed, especially now in the face of Rafe saying he would like to be a father. It seems obvious that Hope's child bearing years are behind her, and that's something that should be addressed.

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Oct 29 2016, 03:37 PM
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Oct 29 2016, 03:08 PM
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Hope was 18 in 1983 or '84, right? If Rafe was in high school in the 80's, then he could be about 5 years younger than Hope. And about 7 years older than Sami. Neither age difference is big enough, or has any kind historical reference, to be a big deal.
The problem with that for me is that Hope has to be at least in her mid fifties, based on the presumed ages of Shawn and Claire.

I don't care about Hope being 5 or 10 or however many years older than Rafe, but I agree with an earlier poster that I think it should be addressed, especially now in the face of Rafe saying he would like to be a father. It seems obvious that Hope's child bearing years are behind her, and that's something that should be addressed.

Sure, SORASing screws up everything. If we are going to go that way, then Sami has to at least in her mid-late forties based on Will and Arianna's ages. So, again, if Rafe were slightly older than Sami, he could easily be slightly younger than Hope.

And I thought they did address Rafe's comment when he said he knew it wasn't likely that he'd be a father. Everybody jumped on it as some kind of foreshadowing, which it might be. But it could also be an acknowledgment that he's with Hope and she's not having any more kids. Or even that he's past the age where kids are a realistic option.
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Oct 29 2016, 03:49 PM
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Oct 29 2016, 03:37 PM
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Oct 29 2016, 03:08 PM

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The problem with that for me is that Hope has to be at least in her mid fifties, based on the presumed ages of Shawn and Claire.

I don't care about Hope being 5 or 10 or however many years older than Rafe, but I agree with an earlier poster that I think it should be addressed, especially now in the face of Rafe saying he would like to be a father. It seems obvious that Hope's child bearing years are behind her, and that's something that should be addressed.

Sure, SORASing screws up everything. If we are going to go that way, then Sami has to at least in her mid-late forties based on Will and Arianna's ages. So, again, if Rafe were slightly older than Sami, he could easily be slightly younger than Hope.

And I thought they did address Rafe's comment when he said he knew it wasn't likely that he'd be a father. Everybody jumped on it as some kind of foreshadowing, which it might be. But it could also be an acknowledgment that he's with Hope and she's not having any more kids. Or even that he's past the age where kids are a realistic option.
Well, I know I'm invoking real life here and I'm aware it certainly doesn't affect Days writing, but I think his desire for kids would be addressed by Hope, probably in the context of 'can you really be happy without them?' It may still happen.
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The average age for menopause is 51 so Gran Hope should be
too old to have a baby.
Maybe Rope's after prison story
will explore using a surrogate . :blulaugh:

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Oct 28 2016, 08:44 PM
I thought Gullimore was the man that saw Theresa last week? Here JL say it's one of his goons.
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Oct 29 2016, 06:15 PM
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Oct 28 2016, 08:44 PM
I thought Gullimore was the man that saw Theresa last week? Here JL say it's one of his goons.
I think Guillermo is the goon and there's someone else too
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Rafe & Hope should have a baby, but it may not be possible. I think Rafe will cheat on Hope or he will break things off from her and move on to a hot chick...like Nicole.
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Oct 29 2016, 09:24 PM
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Lovejm
Oct 28 2016, 08:44 PM
I thought Gullimore was the man that saw Theresa last week? Here JL say it's one of his goons.
I think Guillermo is the goon and there's someone else too
yeah Matteo
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

trojangal
Oct 29 2016, 04:30 PM
The average age for menopause is 51 so Gran Hope should be
too old to have a baby.
Maybe Rope's after prison story
will explore using a surrogate . :blulaugh:

The age gaps/ SORAs, timelines, everything on DAYS is a bit messed up. I've never been a big Bold and the Beautiful fan but I will say that they've always handled SORAS better than any of the other soaps I watch like General Hospital, Days of Our Lives or The Young and the Restless.

Suddenly Sami, Eric, EJ, Brady and Belle are all around the same age group!!? It's mind-boggling!! Kristen was in her 30s when Brady was a toddler and that was never mentioned when they were sleeping together and planning a wedding.

Austin is older than Billie who dated and married 30-something Bo Brady, and still managed to date a 17-18 year old Carrie Brady, and later got involved with an even younger Sami Brady who is at least 4 years or so younger than Carrie. And let's not forget that Marlena was always very strict about her daughters not dating anyone over 18 while they were still underage.

And let's not forget Dr. Marlena Evans Black who according to her tombstone from 2004 was born October 7th 1956 :roflol: so she graduated med school at 16?
Edited by PetrovaSalvatore, Oct 30 2016, 01:24 AM.
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Thank you JCP.

LOL. Remember Doogie Howser?
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

bygnedys
Oct 30 2016, 01:50 PM
LOL. Remember Doogie Howser?
Oh haha!! That's right. :roflol:

Neil Patrick Harris was a cute kid :D

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[twitter=WeLoveSoapsTV/status/792735466839834624]
Monday, October 31
Hope, Rafe and Roman reel as Hope's secret is finally exposed; Chad feels shocked; Ciara discovers her mother may be guilty; John and Steve search frantically for Kayla and Marlena.

Tuesday, November 1
Paul seeks out Sonny's help with an emergency situation; Chad talks to Hope about his father; Marlena and Kayla start running out of time; Andre offers assistance.

Wednesday, November 2
Jennifer and Adrienne decide to buy The Spectator; Theresa receives an unexpected visit from Shane; Nicole gets shocking news from Philip; Deimos demands information about Chloe from Nancy.

Thursday, November 3
After talking with Brady, Philip realizes he wants to be with Chloe; Theresa realizes she has a difficult decision to make; news of Jennifer and Adrienne's business venture angers Justin; Nicole asks Chloe for answers.

Friday, November 4
Kimberly and Shane advise Theresa; Ciara wants answers from Hope; Eduardo and Dario cut a business deal with Deimos; Chloe is unhappy when she feels Nicole betrayed her.
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I hope the fire doesn't ruin Kayla's outfit. It can take Marlena's, though.
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lysie
Oct 30 2016, 03:22 PM
I hope the fire doesn't ruin Kayla's outfit. It can take Marlena's, though.
Too bad the coffins weren't in the townhouse. Her whole wardrobe could have been ruined.
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Oct 30 2016, 03:38 PM
lysie
Oct 30 2016, 03:22 PM
I hope the fire doesn't ruin Kayla's outfit. It can take Marlena's, though.
Too bad the coffins weren't in the townhouse. Her whole wardrobe could have been ruined.

:blulaugh: :blulaugh:
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

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Oct 30 2016, 04:47 PM
Lovejm
Oct 30 2016, 03:38 PM
lysie
Oct 30 2016, 03:22 PM
I hope the fire doesn't ruin Kayla's outfit. It can take Marlena's, though.
Too bad the coffins weren't in the townhouse. Her whole wardrobe could have been ruined.

:blulaugh: :blulaugh:
And the townhouse itself!! the perfect opportunity to ride ourselves of that awful house set!!
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