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elizhope
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Oct 28 2016, 02:38 PM
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Well he sounds like he didn't like the story he was given. He would have written his original entrance differently, Bo would have been dead etc. Wow, funny if anyone else gave the same type of interview - they would be called arrogant, smug.
oh, i'm sure he'll be called arrogant & smug at some point (& somewhere). I think the reason he hasn't been thus far has been because he's called Dena out on her "what i want to do" plan & the fact that there's no real resolution to stories. And these are things that we, as viewers, have noticed & called the show out on. In addition, he called a spade a spade when it came to giving both Aiden & Bo not-likely-to-ever-return exits to "clear the path" for Rafe. It's like TPTB feared that if one/both of Aiden/Bo were in Salem, fans would never really root for Rope, so the only way to try to force viewers to back the pairing was to kill off any of Hope's past love interests. (Technically, Patrick is still alive & in prison, but I can't see Dena wanting to bring him back.) I don't blame him for wishing his character's entire story was written differently, especially with the fact that he enjoyed playing darker (& annoying Rafe). There really wasn't anything wrong with how Aiden was originally written, though I do agree that adding a bit of a greyer area when using Aiden as a lawyer would've helped make his character more interesting to a larger mass of viewers. If the show had wanted him to be the more "evil" character he was being written as at the start of his second run from the beginning, then his "how I would've written things" ideas would've made sense.
Well it appears not only did he not like both of his exits but he was unhappy at how he was introduced ie Bo should have been dead. He did not like being in the bubble - he sounds just basically unhappy with how his story went from the get go. Thats the gist I got too. He didnt really enjoy any of his time there. He thought original "in love" Haiden (pre-50th) was boring and dull with galas and bake sales. He thought the 50th exit sucked because they had him try to kill Hope then just had Bo kill him. He was unhappy with his return as he wouldve rather a look a like rather than switch. He didnt want Aiden to try and get Hope back and he thought basically everything Aiden did was pathetic... etc.... Well, hopefully he's learned his lesson and wont come back if they come calling again.
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The Scorpion
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Oct 28 2016, 02:44 PM
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Great read! Finally, someone who isn't afraid to open up about what he really thinks and feels. Yes so liberating :)
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lysie
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Oct 28 2016, 02:48 PM
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He doesn't come across as arrogant or smug to me, so I wouldn't call him that. He does seem a little whiny, though. But it's hard to take much of an issue with what he says about Higley, though, and he's not wrong about the issues that happen when there are so many writing regimes involved in such a short time.
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Oct 28 2016, 02:49 PM
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[twitter=soapoperafan/status/792046526868688897] :applause: I'm glad he threw the writers under the bus in this interview, especially Dena.
Dena's just a bad writer, period. No one wanted her back to begin with! She cannot construct a story with a strong beginning, middle, and ending. She plays favorites. She assassinates heroes and heroines to fit her writing agenda. Her writing has a sexist edge. She hires a bunch of newbies no one cares about. She's obsessed with "the mob" and dark stories. WHY was she hired a third time? She needs to go. To be fair, I am also interested in The Mob and dark stories. lol but the thing is that she can not even write them interesting and complex.
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Oct 28 2016, 02:49 PM
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That was a great article from DC! He hit the nail on the head! The writiing for Aiden was terrible.
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Oct 28 2016, 02:53 PM
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[twitter=soapoperafan/status/792046526868688897] I completely agree with this whole interview!!
The dropping what happen to Bo in the beginning was stupid, I mean Hope, Victor, & John would've never been he's just a dead beat dad and husband that ran out on his family.
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It was stupid to go back and rewrite, I think look a like, would've been more entertaining.
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When they had his son rape Ciara, and treating rape like it’s kicking someone in the shin, I don’t get on board with those type of stories unless you are really going to do it, the fallout is what I’m talking about."
and this is what I agree with most of all.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:01 PM
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[twitter=soapoperafan/status/792046526868688897] :applause: I'm glad he threw the writers under the bus in this interview, especially Dena.
Dena's just a bad writer, period. No one wanted her back to begin with! She cannot construct a story with a strong beginning, middle, and ending. She plays favorites. She assassinates heroes and heroines to fit her writing agenda. Her writing has a sexist edge. She hires a bunch of newbies no one cares about. She's obsessed with "the mob" and dark stories. WHY was she hired a third time? She needs to go. A lot of this sounds like the complaints people had about Tomlin too . To me the problem is bigger than Dena, or Tomlin or MarDar It is Corday & maybe NBC / Sony
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Oct 28 2016, 03:08 PM
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- Oct 28 2016, 02:48 PM
He doesn't come across as arrogant or smug to me, so I wouldn't call him that. He does seem a little whiny, though. But it's hard to take much of an issue with what he says about Higley, though, and he's not wrong about the issues that happen when there are so many writing regimes involved in such a short time. I haven't read the interview(s) yet, but I would only call him arrogant and smug if he were actually arrogant and smug. If he's just telling it like it is - which it sounds like he is doing, particularly complaining about the shit writing overall at Days - then I applaud him and I wish more would have the balls to be like that. Clearly, he feels like he will never go back to Days nor, probably, does he want to, so that is why he is speaking so freely. And clearly, those who want to remain on the show can't be as frank. But neither do they have to go overboard with the praise when there is obviously nothing to be praised about the poor writing on the show for such a LONG time.
P.S. I was just over at the other thread the Jason posted, reading the 2012-2015 synopses because I didn't watch at the time. The way they handled Bo's departure, then Hope falling for Aiden and deciding to divorce Bo was atrocious. After a lifetime with Bo, Hope just divorces him without speaking to him and goes for this random dude, Aiden. SO STUPID. His character never had a chance and they couldn't figure out who he was or what he was doing there during both of his stints. It was all just awful. It still boggles my mind that this show is written by "professionals" and not amateur pre-teens.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:11 PM
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[twitter=soapoperafan/status/792046526868688897] :applause: I'm glad he threw the writers under the bus in this interview, especially Dena. Interesting that he said that "the final couple of weeks, the morale was pretty low there." I imagine that means a lot of actors were unhappy at that time. It seems to fit with the interviews at the Emmys. I hope the writing and the morale got better after he left. I guess we'll see how the actors are at Day of Days. I was thinking that too. That was pretty close to the time of the Emmys.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:15 PM
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- HollyGolightly
- Oct 28 2016, 02:27 PM
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"The second time I came back, the final couple weeks, the morale was pretty low there." Yep and you can almost feel it in the actors' performances... If you compare last year at this time, the actors seemed so much more enthusiastic about their storylines. Some of the performances have felt mailed in.
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thepadange
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Oct 28 2016, 03:15 PM
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- Oct 28 2016, 02:19 PM
I like DC & I am so glad he has a new gig but I don't feel too sorry for him . He trusted Days & Corday twice . As they say fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on you. Lots of Days actors have been screwed over & lied to by TPTB The revolving door of Writers & EP's don't help either but It all comes down to Corday he is the constant. I don't think what he said should make us feel sorry for him. He had a job and got a paycheck. I don't think he is complaining - he is just stating things as they are. It's obvious that he cared about the character he played and consistency and depth of the stuff he got (or didn't get, I guess). And what he said corresponds to what we were watching on-screen. Aiden was in a bubble, the character was underdeveloped, the writing was horrible. They start stories and then drop them or change direction.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:18 PM
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Rope nor Haiden did anything for the show nor it's ratings Can we just move on :shrug:
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Oct 28 2016, 03:25 PM
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Dena's just a bad writer, period. No one wanted her back to begin with! She cannot construct a story with a strong beginning, middle, and ending. She plays favorites. She assassinates heroes and heroines to fit her writing agenda. Her writing has a sexist edge. She hires a bunch of newbies no one cares about. She's obsessed with "the mob" and dark stories. WHY was she hired a third time? She needs to go.
A lot of this sounds like the complaints people had about Tomlin too . To me the problem is bigger than Dena, or Tomlin or MarDar It is Corday & maybe NBC / Sony Not even close. Tomlin was never this male-heavy, male-dominated and didn't write with a sexist male edge. And his stories weren't constantly revolving around dark shady family businesses and the mob. The women weren't secondary players to "the boys" on the show. The only female Dena really likes giving major story to is Hope. Tomlin could also construct stories with a beginning, middle, and ending with payoffs. Things didn't usually fizzle out with a whimper. I also cared about most of the characters under Tomlin, with the exception of Serena. The show was more interesting under him, not that I want him back necessarily. But his style of writing and ability to construct story was light-years ahead of Dena.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:32 PM
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A lot of this sounds like the complaints people had about Tomlin too . To me the problem is bigger than Dena, or Tomlin or MarDar It is Corday & maybe NBC / Sony
Not even close. Tomlin was never this male-heavy, male-dominated and didn't write with a sexist male edge. And his stories weren't constantly revolving around dark shady family businesses and the mob. The women weren't secondary players to "the boys" on the show. The only female Dena really likes giving major story to is Hope. Tomlin could also construct stories with a beginning, middle, and ending with payoffs. Things didn't usually fizzle out with a whimper. I also cared about most of the characters under Tomlin, with the exception of Serena. The show was more interesting under him, not that I want him back necessarily. But his style of writing and ability to construct story was light-years ahead of Dena. But even Dena's story for Hope is almost more about Rafe than Hope. At the very least, it's not about her as an individual.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:33 PM
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Not even close. Tomlin was never this male-heavy, male-dominated and didn't write with a sexist male edge. And his stories weren't constantly revolving around dark shady family businesses and the mob. The women weren't secondary players to "the boys" on the show. The only female Dena really likes giving major story to is Hope. Tomlin could also construct stories with a beginning, middle, and ending with payoffs. Things didn't usually fizzle out with a whimper. I also cared about most of the characters under Tomlin, with the exception of Serena. The show was more interesting under him, not that I want him back necessarily. But his style of writing and ability to construct story was light-years ahead of Dena.
But even Dena's story for Hope is almost more about Rafe than Hope. At the very least, it's not about her as an individual. Yep.
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Oct 28 2016, 03:46 PM
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[twitter=soapoperafan/status/792046526868688897] :applause: I'm glad he threw the writers under the bus in this interview, especially Dena.
Dena's just a bad writer, period. No one wanted her back to begin with! She cannot construct a story with a strong beginning, middle, and ending. She plays favorites. She assassinates heroes and heroines to fit her writing agenda. Her writing has a sexist edge. She hires a bunch of newbies no one cares about. She's obsessed with "the mob" and dark stories. WHY was she hired a third time? She needs to go. Dena is all about flash and NO substance! She probably expects fireworks from her ideas, but instead she gets a dud!
Now, I'm REALLY afraid with Greg Vaughan's(Eric) return...heaven forbids if he should outshine her precious pets!
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Oct 28 2016, 03:47 PM
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I like DC & I am so glad he has a new gig but I don't feel too sorry for him . He trusted Days & Corday twice . As they say fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on you. Lots of Days actors have been screwed over & lied to by TPTB The revolving door of Writers & EP's don't help either but It all comes down to Corday he is the constant.
I don't think what he said should make us feel sorry for him. He had a job and got a paycheck. I don't think he is complaining - he is just stating things like they are. It's obvious that he cared about the character he played and consistency and depth of the stuff he got (or didn't get, I guess). And what he said corresponds to what we were watching on-screen. Aiden was in a bubble, the character was underdeveloped, the writing was horrible. They start stories and then drop them or change direction. I think it would be hard to work with all of the starting & stopping of storylines & all the different writers but that is how Days has been over the past few years .
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Oct 28 2016, 03:53 PM
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A lot of this sounds like the complaints people had about Tomlin too . To me the problem is bigger than Dena, or Tomlin or MarDar It is Corday & maybe NBC / Sony
Not even close. Tomlin was never this male-heavy, male-dominated and didn't write with a sexist male edge. And his stories weren't constantly revolving around dark shady family businesses and the mob. The women weren't secondary players to "the boys" on the show. The only female Dena really likes giving major story to is Hope. Tomlin could also construct stories with a beginning, middle, and ending with payoffs. Things didn't usually fizzle out with a whimper. I also cared about most of the characters under Tomlin, with the exception of Serena. The show was more interesting under him, not that I want him back necessarily. But his style of writing and ability to construct story was light-years ahead of Dena. I remember a lot of people having big issues with Tomlin too :shrug:
I still think no matter who is the writer or the EP it all rests at the feet of Corday, he green lights this crap
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Oct 28 2016, 04:17 PM
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- Oct 28 2016, 02:48 PM
He doesn't come across as arrogant or smug to me, so I wouldn't call him that. He does seem a little whiny, though. But it's hard to take much of an issue with what he says about Higley, though, and he's not wrong about the issues that happen when there are so many writing regimes involved in such a short time. It's always fun to hear the dirt, but I do think he was whiny and unprofessional in this interview.
It's interesting that he had high expectations to be used across the canvas interacting with more characters when he wasn't ever used that way before. He seemed to feel his character should have taken center stage. I think he should be grateful they offered him a paycheck after he griped about being thrown under the bus and leaked big details about the 50th anniversary. Seeing stories dropped or turned should have been a huge clue to him, but he signed on anyway. That's the breaks. Don't whine when you knew it was a probability.
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